Apart from Piercing Shot being overpowered on its own and giving hunter too much face damage, it should not be able to target your own minions. Hunter's killing their own companions is not a hunter flavor, they aren't warlocks they do not sacrifice their own pets.
While I agree that it's a very Warlock thing to do, I think the card is fine and that sacrificing your own minion for face damage is acceptable and a cool play to make. If anything, Piercing Shot should only target enemy minions so that you can play against it by not developing/playing weenies at all - that'd be nice. Counterplay for cards is important, and with Piercing Shot being able to just ignore the opponents board and hit their own 1/1's - while very cool in my opinion - maybe isn't a good thing.
Though it's still a 4 mana play that loses them a minion. That seems pretty fair to me.
My opposition has more to do with the way blizz nerfed hysteria. It makes more sense for priest to give a minion holy powers then drive it mad than it does for a hunter to shoot his own followers and it somehow hits the enemy. Other than flavor, card is fine.
You can't just call out flavor on things like this, or else hunters should never play 90% of the neutral cards because they are dragons, mechs or whatever. You think it's wrong that hunters can sacrifice their companion (yet it seems like a plausible and lore-friendly thing to me), but do you think it's fine that hunters can summon Deathwing ?
Flavor in card games is different than flavor in RPGs. It's more related to the art and name of the cards than anything. Nothing in the piercing shot aesthetics says you can't shoot your own pet with it. It's even a goblin that is using the rifle, a species well known for their absolute disregard for wild life and nature.
Piercing shot is a perfectly fine and fair card, that will and should never get nerfed in a world where you can play Explosive Runes for 0 mana. At best it does 5 face damage for 4 mana, worse than a fireball.
you totally missed his point, the flavour is in the card text, to pierce an enemy minion and rest goes to face. You want to arcane shot your own minion thats your choice.
you totally missed his point, the flavour is in the card text, to pierce an enemy minion and rest goes to face. You want to arcane shot your own minion thats your choice.
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And why would it need to be an "enemy" minion ? Card text says any minion. Card art says you just have to aim at something in front of the enemy hero and the rest goes in his face.
Why is it my choice to arcane shot my own minion but not to piercing shot it ?
Real cops do that all the time against dangerous people, they send the doggo then shoot through it. Doggo dies, criminal dies too.
I didn't miss his point, you totally missed mine, or pretended to.
What's with all this "think before you speak" that's going around today? If I had a nickel for every time I'd read that today alone, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
But yeah I'm with Mouche on this one. the card never explicitly says "enemy", and we don't have enough context for what's happening in the artwork to really say if they're shooting an enemy. if anything: it IS the Hunter Mercenary getting shot through in the artwork, so I'd actually say that popping your own 1 Health minions and sending the rest face does seem in flavor with what's happening in the art.
Apart from Piercing Shot being overpowered on its own and giving hunter too much face damage, it should not be able to target your own minions. Hunter's killing their own companions is not a hunter flavor, they aren't warlocks they do not sacrifice their own pets.
This is a ridiculously dumb argument. Every class has spells that can target their own stuff, and situations where killing their own minions helps them, please lol.
Apart from Piercing Shot being overpowered on its own and giving hunter too much face damage, it should not be able to target your own minions. Hunter's killing their own companions is not a hunter flavor, they aren't warlocks they do not sacrifice their own pets.
Think about it like this: The enemy think hunter can't reach them because hunter's own minion is in the way. Hunter just shoots through it.
I do agree it doesn't fit the flavour and it's not consistent with the text on Explosive Runes which says "hits their hero". But if Blizzard cared about flavour they would give Shaman an air totem.
This is old news ... never Corrosive Breath an own minion for lethal? Back in the ol' Malygos Hunter days, I did this many, many, many times to finish off opponents who refused to play minions.
Apart from Piercing Shot being overpowered on its own and giving hunter too much face damage, it should not be able to target your own minions.
Hunter's killing their own companions is not a hunter flavor, they aren't warlocks they do not sacrifice their own pets.
While I agree that it's a very Warlock thing to do, I think the card is fine and that sacrificing your own minion for face damage is acceptable and a cool play to make. If anything, Piercing Shot should only target enemy minions so that you can play against it by not developing/playing weenies at all - that'd be nice. Counterplay for cards is important, and with Piercing Shot being able to just ignore the opponents board and hit their own 1/1's - while very cool in my opinion - maybe isn't a good thing.
Though it's still a 4 mana play that loses them a minion. That seems pretty fair to me.
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Excuse you, P.E.T.A.-Pan, it’s called “culling the herd” and it’s necessary to keep the pack and it’s future offspring strong and thriving.
My opposition has more to do with the way blizz nerfed hysteria. It makes more sense for priest to give a minion holy powers then drive it mad than it does for a hunter to shoot his own followers and it somehow hits the enemy. Other than flavor, card is fine.
So what about other spells, nerf Arcane Shot, Bola Shot, Quick Shot, Wound Prey, Overwhelm and Scrap Shot too so they can't target friendly minions, just for flavor, because you're frustrated your opponent made a good play ?
You can't just call out flavor on things like this, or else hunters should never play 90% of the neutral cards because they are dragons, mechs or whatever. You think it's wrong that hunters can sacrifice their companion (yet it seems like a plausible and lore-friendly thing to me), but do you think it's fine that hunters can summon Deathwing ?
Flavor in card games is different than flavor in RPGs. It's more related to the art and name of the cards than anything. Nothing in the piercing shot aesthetics says you can't shoot your own pet with it. It's even a goblin that is using the rifle, a species well known for their absolute disregard for wild life and nature.
Piercing shot is a perfectly fine and fair card, that will and should never get nerfed in a world where you can play Explosive Runes for 0 mana. At best it does 5 face damage for 4 mana, worse than a fireball.
you totally missed his point, the flavour is in the card text, to pierce an enemy minion and rest goes to face. You want to arcane shot your own minion thats your choice.
Think before you type
And why would it need to be an "enemy" minion ? Card text says any minion. Card art says you just have to aim at something in front of the enemy hero and the rest goes in his face.
Why is it my choice to arcane shot my own minion but not to piercing shot it ?
Real cops do that all the time against dangerous people, they send the doggo then shoot through it. Doggo dies, criminal dies too.
I didn't miss his point, you totally missed mine, or pretended to.
Read before you type.
What's with all this "think before you speak" that's going around today? If I had a nickel for every time I'd read that today alone, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
But yeah I'm with Mouche on this one. the card never explicitly says "enemy", and we don't have enough context for what's happening in the artwork to really say if they're shooting an enemy. if anything: it IS the Hunter Mercenary getting shot through in the artwork, so I'd actually say that popping your own 1 Health minions and sending the rest face does seem in flavor with what's happening in the art.
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No. It would kill this OTK
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This is a ridiculously dumb argument. Every class has spells that can target their own stuff, and situations where killing their own minions helps them, please lol.
Think about it like this: The enemy think hunter can't reach them because hunter's own minion is in the way. Hunter just shoots through it.
"opponent made a good play ?"
Imagine a hunter doing a good play
I do agree it doesn't fit the flavour and it's not consistent with the text on Explosive Runes which says "hits their hero". But if Blizzard cared about flavour they would give Shaman an air totem.
I am with you, its not very hunterlike.
And stop shouting out cards like Arcane shot, with ur reasoning why cant we WEAPON ATACK OUR OWN MINONS ?!
This is old news ... never Corrosive Breath an own minion for lethal? Back in the ol' Malygos Hunter days, I did this many, many, many times to finish off opponents who refused to play minions.
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