I seldom give a rat packs ass about cards or nerfs. but this card is the single most feels bad card to play against so far this rotation.
It's just barely above "easy to deal with" stats having 3 health
And there are so many strong spells it can pull. Ontop of that the poison basically eats up this meta since theres not a surplus of good deathrattles, reborns or divine shields yet since we just hit the rotation.
If you're playing a deck that can afford to run it, its being run and doing too well. You can ping back to this message in 2 weeks when every deck thats climbing is using it.
Dude are you high? First of all, it's day 2. You shouldn't call for nerfs. Second, Venomous Scorpid is prefectly fine. In fact, I played ~100 games and haven't seen it once. But it seems like a solid card, not broken by any means.
Dude are you high? First of all, it's day 2. You shouldn't call for nerfs. Second, Venomous Scorpid is prefectly fine. In fact, I played ~100 games and haven't seen it once. But it seems like a solid card, not broken by any means.
guess you're playing battlegrounds
P.S. your justification for it being balanced was you haven't seen people play it. That's not a good counter argument, try again.
Of all the cards you could have highlighted, you chose the poisonous version of the Vulpera Scoundrel????
This is day 2, there is no set meta while everyone gathers their bearings with the new rotation. If anything, watch posts are proving to be almost essential to any non-aggressive deck at the moment and aren't particularly fun to play against.
Of all the cards you could have highlighted, you chose the poisonous version of the Vulpera Scoundrel????
This is day 2, there is no set meta while everyone gathers their bearings with the new rotation. If anything, watch posts are proving to be almost essential to any non-aggressive deck at the moment and aren't particularly fun to play against.
what does vulpera do? what does it actually do? it hits board and dies. scorpion is a free trade 90% of the time, you are forced to play around it
I played like 60 games from diamond 10+ and I never saw this card once, there are so many other cards that are much stronger than Venomous Scorpid in this set, I actually don't think it will see play in very many strong decks. No spell mage doesn't play minions, it's too slow for secret paladin, it doesn't really fit into miracle rogue, and control warlock has about 5 cards that they would rather play than it, but maybe it's a one of in that deck. I really think this card is balanced.
Doesn't seem like anyone agrees with you including me. I could argue that is should be rare or something, but that isn't your point here. Like people have said here: day two
People like you play hearthstone from like 1 year or less and complain about everything man i play this game since 2014 and believe me when I say this meta is really not toxic back in 2014 we had some really toxic metas like the face only face hunter the Xmas tree paladin so please man stop. A stupid 1/3 scorpion with poison doesn't need a nerf if something needs a nerf are cards able to get basically infinite value for a really small cost and the 1/3 scorpion isn't one of those cards.
It’s a neutral card. Anybody can play it. Jaraxxus on the other hand… did they forget it used to have max health of 15 and no armor? There was a reason it was so powerful: it had a big drawback. As it stands, it’s ridiculously overpowered.
Of all the cards you could have highlighted, you chose the poisonous version of the Vulpera Scoundrel????
This is day 2, there is no set meta while everyone gathers their bearings with the new rotation. If anything, watch posts are proving to be almost essential to any non-aggressive deck at the moment and aren't particularly fun to play against.
what does vulpera do? what does it actually do? it hits board and dies. scorpion is a free trade 90% of the time, you are forced to play around it
What is different? just take the trade, is not like a "BIIIG trade" there is a lot of 3/2 for 2 Mana. There is also not target spell damage. Weapons. It depends of the class you are playing but is this card really hurst you its because you are playing a deck that dont want to get even trades which should consider this kind of cards as a weakness anyways.
Lol when I came in I really thought this thread is supposed to be an April Fool’s joke. No offence, but really it’s the very first few days of the new meta, and that card you mentioned seemed perfectly balanced to me as well. I was mostly playing at diamond 2, and yeah haven’t seen that card like once. So far the only card that I think could be nerfed is perhaps Field Contact.
Williwang, I'm 100% with you, I came in ready to say "little early for an April Fool's post".
Jesus mother of God . . . no, actually no, I should say thank you to the OP.
For months lately, I've been giving posters the benefit of the doubt and writing long posts going point by point with folks who I assumed were genuine good-faith arguers. The joke is definitely on me. I need to read a post like this per day to remind myself that most people lie somewhere on the spectrum between completely brain dead and deliberate provocateur, neither of which deserves a sincere response.
I'm sitting here trying to think of a class that DOESN'T have a popular card or two in the same mana cost range as scorpid that deals with the card without using another creature. I can't remember if Eaglehorn Bow was put in the core set, so Hunter might have a bit of bother. Other than that . . . I can think of at least one popular option for every class that doesn't involve trading a creature. To say nothing of Warrior, a class that literally thanks you whenever you play scorpid, owing to the free card for one damage trade with the new 3/3 weapon.
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A general rule of thumb, is if you have to play around a neutral that isn't a legendary. it's strong
A general rule of thumb, a strong card is not a card needing nerf.
Venomous Scorpion is 100% fine. Having generally strong, easy to splash in non-legendary neutral minion is actually good - it's a good card for new players and people on thigh/no budget.
People like you play hearthstone from like 1 year or less and complain about everything man i play this game since 2014 and believe me when I say this meta is really not toxic back in 2014 we had some really toxic metas like the face only face hunter the Xmas tree paladin so please man stop. A stupid 1/3 scorpion with poison doesn't need a nerf if something needs a nerf are cards able to get basically infinite value for a really small cost and the 1/3 scorpion isn't one of those cards.
ehhh my first day was grand tournament, but you can be a HS grandpa and pretend that things aren't power crept every rotation
I played like 60 games from diamond 10+ and I never saw this card once, there are so many other cards that are much stronger than Venomous Scorpid in this set, I actually don't think it will see play in very many strong decks. No spell mage doesn't play minions, it's too slow for secret paladin, it doesn't really fit into miracle rogue, and control warlock has about 5 cards that they would rather play than it, but maybe it's a one of in that deck. I really think this card is balanced.
also didn't see it once in about 50 games, totally forgott about it until i saw this thread
It's the most feel good neutral card i've seen since Stonehill Defender, feels good on curve, feels good top deck, these cards help slow down the game a bit, and no matter what people think about discover, when it's attached to a 3 mana minion it's fair, and it adds good variance to the game, it's just great.
When was the last time you played a poisonous minion in any deck ? It's just a great, balanced card and not all decks can take advantage of it. You can maaaybe tech it in any deck to counter watch posts but that's a niche.
In fact I've only seen the scorpion put to good use in mage and shaman decks. Shaman need the reach cause they have no card draw, and mage need the early board presence to start casting his Wildfire and Incanter's Flow safely.
I understand it can feel unfair at times when it gets the perfect answer, the 4th Wildfire, or sometimes completely negates tempo decks for a turn, but every card has to be strong somewhere right ?
I seldom give a rat packs ass about cards or nerfs. but this card is the single most feels bad card to play against so far this rotation.
It's just barely above "easy to deal with" stats having 3 health
And there are so many strong spells it can pull. Ontop of that the poison basically eats up this meta since theres not a surplus of good deathrattles, reborns or divine shields yet since we just hit the rotation.
If you're playing a deck that can afford to run it, its being run and doing too well. You can ping back to this message in 2 weeks when every deck thats climbing is using it.
I have it in my Spell Priest deck. Its fun yeah
Dude are you high? First of all, it's day 2. You shouldn't call for nerfs. Second, Venomous Scorpid is prefectly fine. In fact, I played ~100 games and haven't seen it once. But it seems like a solid card, not broken by any means.
guess you're playing battlegrounds
P.S. your justification for it being balanced was you haven't seen people play it. That's not a good counter argument, try again.
Of all the cards you could have highlighted, you chose the poisonous version of the Vulpera Scoundrel????
This is day 2, there is no set meta while everyone gathers their bearings with the new rotation. If anything, watch posts are proving to be almost essential to any non-aggressive deck at the moment and aren't particularly fun to play against.
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what does vulpera do? what does it actually do? it hits board and dies. scorpion is a free trade 90% of the time, you are forced to play around it
A general rule of thumb, is if you have to play around a neutral that isn't a legendary. it's strong
I played like 60 games from diamond 10+ and I never saw this card once, there are so many other cards that are much stronger than Venomous Scorpid in this set, I actually don't think it will see play in very many strong decks. No spell mage doesn't play minions, it's too slow for secret paladin, it doesn't really fit into miracle rogue, and control warlock has about 5 cards that they would rather play than it, but maybe it's a one of in that deck. I really think this card is balanced.
Doesn't seem like anyone agrees with you including me. I could argue that is should be rare or something, but that isn't your point here. Like people have said here: day two
People like you play hearthstone from like 1 year or less and complain about everything man i play this game since 2014 and believe me when I say this meta is really not toxic back in 2014 we had some really toxic metas like the face only face hunter the Xmas tree paladin so please man stop. A stupid 1/3 scorpion with poison doesn't need a nerf if something needs a nerf are cards able to get basically infinite value for a really small cost and the 1/3 scorpion isn't one of those cards.
It’s a neutral card. Anybody can play it. Jaraxxus on the other hand… did they forget it used to have max health of 15 and no armor? There was a reason it was so powerful: it had a big drawback. As it stands, it’s ridiculously overpowered.
What is different? just take the trade, is not like a "BIIIG trade" there is a lot of 3/2 for 2 Mana. There is also not target spell damage. Weapons. It depends of the class you are playing but is this card really hurst you its because you are playing a deck that dont want to get even trades which should consider this kind of cards as a weakness anyways.
Lol when I came in I really thought this thread is supposed to be an April Fool’s joke. No offence, but really it’s the very first few days of the new meta, and that card you mentioned seemed perfectly balanced to me as well. I was mostly playing at diamond 2, and yeah haven’t seen that card like once. So far the only card that I think could be nerfed is perhaps Field Contact.
Williwang, I'm 100% with you, I came in ready to say "little early for an April Fool's post".
Jesus mother of God . . . no, actually no, I should say thank you to the OP.
For months lately, I've been giving posters the benefit of the doubt and writing long posts going point by point with folks who I assumed were genuine good-faith arguers. The joke is definitely on me. I need to read a post like this per day to remind myself that most people lie somewhere on the spectrum between completely brain dead and deliberate provocateur, neither of which deserves a sincere response.
I'm sitting here trying to think of a class that DOESN'T have a popular card or two in the same mana cost range as scorpid that deals with the card without using another creature. I can't remember if Eaglehorn Bow was put in the core set, so Hunter might have a bit of bother. Other than that . . . I can think of at least one popular option for every class that doesn't involve trading a creature. To say nothing of Warrior, a class that literally thanks you whenever you play scorpid, owing to the free card for one damage trade with the new 3/3 weapon.
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A general rule of thumb, a strong card is not a card needing nerf.
Venomous Scorpion is 100% fine. Having generally strong, easy to splash in non-legendary neutral minion is actually good - it's a good card for new players and people on thigh/no budget.
ehhh my first day was grand tournament, but you can be a HS grandpa and pretend that things aren't power crept every rotation
April's fool joke for sure. Rarely anyone plays this card.
Ridiculous card to be complaining about. It’s weapon fodder, AoE fodder, “trade a 2 drop” fodder, etc.
I’m glad a poisonous minion gets to see play. The mechanic had nearly always been DOA in every past set.
also didn't see it once in about 50 games, totally forgott about it until i saw this thread
How is it a "feels bad" card ?
It's the most feel good neutral card i've seen since Stonehill Defender, feels good on curve, feels good top deck, these cards help slow down the game a bit, and no matter what people think about discover, when it's attached to a 3 mana minion it's fair, and it adds good variance to the game, it's just great.
When was the last time you played a poisonous minion in any deck ? It's just a great, balanced card and not all decks can take advantage of it. You can maaaybe tech it in any deck to counter watch posts but that's a niche.
In fact I've only seen the scorpion put to good use in mage and shaman decks. Shaman need the reach cause they have no card draw, and mage need the early board presence to start casting his Wildfire and Incanter's Flow safely.
I understand it can feel unfair at times when it gets the perfect answer, the 4th Wildfire, or sometimes completely negates tempo decks for a turn, but every card has to be strong somewhere right ?