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Why do you guys keep trying to make him understand? In 2 weeks he will find out alone that this card is bad.
In the first week after the expansion launch this card will be used by tons of peoples, and after the first week people will either realize that this card is pure trash or they will just copy-paste pro decks that obviously will not use it.
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I have the feeling that the Deathknight Warlock hero might have a hero power similar to this cards effect. Something like a reverse card draw: "Your opponent draws 2 cards". That would actually pressure your opponent and force him to overextend the board, allowing you to play your boardclears. If he doesn't play them the cards get burned away. Would also counter Dead Man's Hand or the new Bishop legendary of Priests.
The card is a vanilla 2/3 for 2 in almost all cases. Therefore it is trash and will not see constructed play since Golakka Crawler is far better.
When would you play it over Golakka Crawler? When you want to mill your opponent, or expect to win through fatigue, both of which are unlikely Warlock win conditions. Oh, and I guess it shows you a card from your opponent's deck, which allows you to narrow down his strategy.
Otherwise it is good in the unlikely events that it disrupt your opponent's combo-and-sole-win-condition, or it disrupt your opponent's plan to play more than two copies of a spell using Shadow Vision.
tirionAntonidas. Milling one of those has a good chance of severely slowing down the deck (and just killing it entirely in the unlikely event you hit antonidas)So, who wants to argue some more? ;) I claim that whole upside of the card is information, the milling part is irrelevant (until fatigue hits your opponent).
It does not decrease your opponent chance to draw any card.
It does not "break" combos.
But it sure feels like it does destroy combos. What's the catch? The game itself has a way to screw combo decks. If you need two card combo you have to relay on drawing both cards before the game ends. Let's call that probability P1. Now if your opponent plays Gnomeferatu you would expect that probability to go down. But in fact it is exactly the same. Gnomeferatu is not destroying combos, it just gives you information that in this particular game your opponent was on the bad or good side of RNG.
Still not convinced? What if we hide the card that is destroyed from both players. Now the information part is gone, and there is only "milling" effect. Now that you don't know what card is gone you also "feel" that milling was irrelevant (until fatigue hits your opponent).
I am def going to use this card in almost any Warlock deck that I build because of the chances of discarding something great.
It's the next card you draw and that you won't be able to search.
Let's say you have only 1 secret ice block in deck and a archeologist in hand. On my turn I play this card with the "random cad in the deck" and hit iceblock -> now you cant get it via arche.
But with the current text, you would get iceblock next turn anyway and which will make arche useless either with this cards effect or by drawing it as the top card.
The whole idea (if you want to go into chances of ruining the combo) is that you are actually MORE LIKELY to push your opponent towards a needed combo piece than you are to ruin said combo piece. The card is literally a negative effect and helpful for your opponent most of the time, and the idea that combo decks rely on 'every card in their deck' to get to and play their combo is clearly untrue or they'd never ever kill you before hitting fatigue.
Just because you kill an Antonidas one game in 30 doesn't make it a good card. It means the other 29 times you've helped your opponent out.
I agree with DyingAtheist. Its simple, really. There are a lot of filler-cards in a combo deck, and far less combo pieces. All in all, as long as you can't control the card it removes, it will be bad. You may know which card is not in their deck anymore, but that means you need to actually know their deck. Sure, most decks are net-decks, but not all. Additionally, there are a myriad of small modifications...
To be honest, I never understood the hype. Why would it be awesome? Why would it be so good? It literally just reduces the amounts of cards in your opponent decks by 1, if you don't play till fatigue, it won't even matter at all.
Have you ever had Dirty Rat pull a minion from your hand and then immediately destroyed? If the stars align and your opponent manages it with Dirty Rat & Doomsayer on turn 4, pulls your Alexstrasza and you can't remove the Doomsayer it feels bad, right? How often does that happen? Close to never right? Why?
Because who really hangs on to late game cards? That only happens if you drew it from your deck in the early game and you don't have an answer to Doomsayer, which sucks for you anyway. That also has to happen at the same time that they also mulligan'd/drew into Dirty Rat & Doomsayer, had the guts to play the combo for 4 mana and lose the Dirty Rat in the process.
This does that for one card, which is massive, true, but unlikely, as you said.
You then seem to argue that therefore it's bad.
I'll happily destroy one of your cards leaving a 2/3 body for 2 mana compared to trying to fish a minion with Dirty Rat and probably give you the game in the process. I don't care what the card is, because if you've included it in your deck, you've excluded something else for a reason (I'm talking here about the few players that don't copy paste Pirate Warrior)