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so far i have seen gnomerferu in play excpet in wild mill lock which didnt really work maybe in future it will be more.

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2 mana 2/3 "Reveal the bottom card of your opponent's deck."

That's legitimately good enough to run in the 2 slot right now for Warlock.  Gives you info for what you don't have to play around.  Not great but certainly playable until something better comes around.

There is also the small tilt factor potential which is also satisfying.

 Yeah, that's actually an elegant way of thinking about the card. Though I really do question how useful that is. You have doomsayers, crawlers, ooze, defile....

 

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2 mana 2/3 "Reveal the bottom card of your opponent's deck."

That's legitimately good enough to run in the 2 slot right now for Warlock.  Gives you info for what you don't have to play around.  Not great but certainly playable until something better comes around.

There is also the small tilt factor potential which is also satisfying.

 Yeah, that's actually an elegant way of thinking about the card. Though I really do question how useful that is. You have doomsayers, crawlers, ooze, defile....

 

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2 mana 2/3 "Reveal the bottom card of your opponent's deck."

That's legitimately good enough to run in the 2 slot right now for Warlock.  Gives you info for what you don't have to play around.  Not great but certainly playable until something better comes around.

There is also the small tilt factor potential which is also satisfying.

 Yeah, that's actually an elegant way of thinking about the card. Though I really do question how useful that is. You have doomsayers, crawlers, ooze, defile....

 

 Thank you.

When I say 2 slot, I meant something you'd actually want to play on turn 2.  Doomsayer, Golakka, Ooze, and Defile are great but are often best held until the opportunity arises.  There really isn't anything else for Warlock on turn 2 except hero power now that Peddler is out.

Gnomeferatu is an okay tempo play that has a high probability to provide useful information and a very small probability to tilt your opponent.  I suspect most people trashing this card are not Standard Warlock players.  Other classes have much better 2 drops and in Wild this is outclassed heavily by Peddler, Haunted Creeper, etc.

Since I started running the card, it had only once burned a good card for my opponent. Their C'Thun.

I still enjoy the card though, if only to gather a bit of info. 

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Since I started running the card, it had only once burned a good card for my opponent. Their C'Thun.

I still enjoy the card though, if only to gather a bit of info. 

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2 mana 2/3 "Reveal the bottom card of your opponent's deck."

That's legitimately good enough to run in the 2 slot right now for Warlock.  Gives you info for what you don't have to play around.  Not great but certainly playable until something better comes around.

There is also the small tilt factor potential which is also satisfying.

 Yeah, that's actually an elegant way of thinking about the card. Though I really do question how useful that is. You have doomsayers, crawlers, ooze, defile....

 

 Thank you.

When I say 2 slot, I meant something you'd actually want to play on turn 2.  Doomsayer, Golakka, Ooze, and Defile are great but are often best held until the opportunity arises.  There really isn't anything else for Warlock on turn 2 except hero power now that Peddler is out.

Gnomeferatu is an okay tempo play that has a high probability to provide useful information and a very small probability to tilt your opponent.  I suspect most people trashing this card are not Standard Warlock players.  Other classes have much better 2 drops and in Wild this is outclassed heavily by Peddler, Haunted Creeper, etc.

So people are still debating and saying this card is good? the only way this card is good is in a mill deck, but warlock is just the worst class to build a mill deck.. it is literally the last of the 9 classes you would build a mill deck.. your hero power gets you closer to fatigue than your opponent.. unless you get more support of this mill mechanic instead of the "your hand is full" way to mill, this card will never be better than "bad" or "dust it".. people don't play river croc, and even river croc is a beast, so more synergy than this non demon card.. people forget how fel river was good in mech mage, shaman and druid.. and it milled 9, 12, 15 cards of your deck.. and a lot of times won you the game on its own..

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Since I started running the card, it had only once burned a good card for my opponent. Their C'Thun.

I still enjoy the card though, if only to gather a bit of info. 

 Just a question, will their "If C'thun is 10/10 or up" cards still work after you burned C'Thun?

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Deck order isnt done server side at start of each game. You draw every turn random card from your deck. Its just visuals that let you see that u draw top card. Because deck order is random after shuffle in physical game how is it diffwrent to draw top card or draw random card

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Deck order isnt done server side at start of each game. You draw every turn random card from your deck. Its just visuals that let you see that u draw top card. Because deck order is random after shuffle in physical game how is it diffwrent to draw top card or draw random card

 It's basically irrelevant how the order is handled, because either way you have no way of predicting what the next card will be or interact with what is more likely to be drawn. For all we know, we might as well consider it completely random until you actually see the card. But why would you expect the average hearthpwner to grasp this?

I just revisited this thread to say, even though this card might not be good I hate it... i really hate it

Now that the dust has settled we can see that this card really did live up to its name as the shame of the Hearthstone community. 

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Now that the dust has settled we can see that this card really did live up to its name as the shame of the Hearthstone community. 

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Now that the dust has settled we can see that this card really did live up to its name as the shame of the Hearthstone community. 

I truly think that this card has some potential in the near future. I'm trying my best to build a final version of control/fatigue Warlock because the new DK allows this strategy with Siphon Life hero power. Most of my games are going to fatigue and in these situations this adorable vampire lady starts to shine and really makes sense. Maybe she needs an another expansion or just need to wait until the meta settles down. Who knows... maybe we'll seen a mill warlock pretty soon.

2 things can make the effect remove the bottom card from your opponent's deck good:

1. games reliably going to fatigue
2. a mechanic related to positioning cards in the deck

In that case, the card can be pretty good. Without that, the card is garbage.

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2 things can make the effect remove the bottom card from your opponent's deck good:

1. games reliably going to fatigue
2. a mechanic related to positioning cards in the deck

In that case, the card can be pretty good. Without that, the card is garbage.

It's so funny to see how 70% of this forum voted for this card to be either 'Very Good' or even 'Meta-Defining'. What a nice epic River Crocolisk!