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#23 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Quote from FeelzbatmanHS >>

I was at rank 6 and I cant beat any Aggro murloc paladin how about that? I played 50 games against paladins no win! Is it bad luck?

If you have so much problem with this deck use techs.

Hungry Crab for any deck.

Spellbender if you play mage, you get all the advantage when your minion receive the buffs and the extra minion on deathrattle.

Sap if you play rogue, return the buffed minion remove all tempo advantage the paladin get with that card.

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#24 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)

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The card exists since forever. It doesn't need to be nerfed. However a Hall of Fame? Maybe.

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#25 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Quote from FeelzbatmanHS >>

I was at rank 6 and I cant beat any Aggro murloc paladin how about that? I played 50 games against paladins no win! Is it bad luck?

Op, what deck are you playing then? Maybe we can help you overcome this obstacle?

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I think low cost minions in general are too powerful in Hs given how insanely powerful it is to curve out

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#27 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Quote from AluisioCSantos >>

The card exists since forever. It doesn't need to be nerfed. However a Hall of Fame? Maybe.

That will kill any standard murlock deck forever, just don't, murlocks was unplayable for years, only now have the tools to see play.

I never understand why Old Murk-Eye is not a standard card.

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#29 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)

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I was at rank 6 and I cant beat any Aggro murloc paladin how about that? I played 50 games against paladins no win! Is it bad luck?

If you have so much problem with this deck use techs.

Hungry Crab for any deck.

Spellbender if you play mage, you get all the advantage when your minion receive the buffs and the extra minion on deathrattle.

Sap if you play rogue, return the buffed minion remove all tempo advantage the paladin get with that card.

Removing warleader is not a solution all murlocs damage at the same time my opponent plays Murloc Warleader. This instant damage take my health down to 17-15 I cant remove and heal myself at the same time and Rogue has no heal

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#30 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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If he was 'Give all murlocs on the board and all that comeinto play +2/+1' He would be broken.

Just kill it.

Or even better, kill his friends before he comes out. If you're playing smorc hunter and don't control the board at least a little, you're going to get outrushed by murloc buffs

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#31 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Quote from blitz9445 >>

I think low cost minions in general are too powerful in Hs given how insanely powerful it is to curve out

I agree with that but instead nerfs just give us better control tools, more and better mass removals and neutral healings.

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#32 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Murloc Warleader has existed since the beginning of Hearthstone. I highly doubt that it would all of a sudden become an issue JUST now. The only possible reason I could think of that you have an issue with it is that you're playing a less efficient aggro deck, and simply don't want to trade. Murlocs are easy to deal with as long as you are playing a midrange or slower deck. Fight for the board against them and you'll have success.

The actually insane card in murloc decks is the dinosaur that evolves them. It hitting one on curve is good value, hitting anything higher makes it an insane tempo play. However, I don't even know if the aggressive murloc decks run it.

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#33 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Just because you're playing a deck that does bad against Murlocs doesn't warrant nerfs. What's next? I can't beat taunt warrior with pirates so remove taunt ?

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#34 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)

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I am playing at my best and got rank 2 last season before aggro murloc paladin comes out

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I was at rank 6 and I cant beat any Aggro murloc paladin how about that? I played 50 games against paladins no win! Is it bad luck?

Op, what deck are you playing then? Maybe we can help you overcome this obstacle?

I am playing Nzoth kazakus priest, Elemantal Shaman and Secret mage

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#36 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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I was at rank 6 and I cant beat any Aggro murloc paladin how about that? I played 50 games against paladins no win! Is it bad luck?

If you have so much problem with this deck use techs.

Hungry Crab for any deck.

Spellbender if you play mage, you get all the advantage when your minion receive the buffs and the extra minion on deathrattle.

Sap if you play rogue, return the buffed minion remove all tempo advantage the paladin get with that card.

Removing warleader is not a solution all murlocs damage at the same time my opponent plays Murloc Warleader. This instant damage take my health down to 17-15 I cant remove and heal myself at the same time and Rogue has no heal

Warleader is strong when opponent already have the board full of murlocks, your work vs this kind of deck is keep the board under control, only paladin have high health murlocks to play on curve, again, the problem is not the neutral murlocks.

Paladin murlock is a Tier 1 deck, of course is strong but not even close to MC secret paladin in standard days, the other classes except warlock have very good decks to fight too.

I don't see a problem here, it is a completely different situation than before when paladin or shaman are far superior than anything else.

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I was at rank 6 and I cant beat any Aggro murloc paladin how about that? I played 50 games against paladins no win! Is it bad luck?

Op, what deck are you playing then? Maybe we can help you overcome this obstacle?

I am playing Nzoth hunter, Elemantal Shaman and Secret mage

Hunter is the best class to use Hungry Crab tech, any 1 mana beast is a treat in hunter.

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#38 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)

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I was at rank 6 and I cant beat any Aggro murloc paladin how about that? I played 50 games against paladins no win! Is it bad luck?

If you have so much problem with this deck use techs.

Hungry Crab for any deck.

Spellbender if you play mage, you get all the advantage when your minion receive the buffs and the extra minion on deathrattle.

Sap if you play rogue, return the buffed minion remove all tempo advantage the paladin get with that card.

Removing warleader is not a solution all murlocs damage at the same time my opponent plays Murloc Warleader. This instant damage take my health down to 17-15 I cant remove and heal myself at the same time and Rogue has no heal

Warleader is strong when opponent already have the board full of murlocks, your work vs this kind of deck is keep the board under control, only paladin have high health murlocks to play on curve, again, the problem is not the neutral murlocks.

Paladin murlock is a Tier 1 deck, of course is strong but not even close to MC secret paladin in standard days, the other classes except warlock have very good decks to fight too.

I don't see a problem here, it is a completely different situation than before when paladin or shaman are far superior than anything else.

I just want to slow the murloc decks a little bit, they have so powerful card mechanichs taunt buff discover weapon even secrets(thanks to Hydrologist) and give all murlocs +1/+1 is not so bad effect

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#39 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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I always wondered why he gave 2+/1+ while Southsea gives 1+/1+

They are both the same except for that.

Because Murloc Warleader gives it to ALL murlocs. The Southsea Captain gives it to only your minions.

Edit: nope, scratch that, when did Murloc Warleader got a nerf like that?

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#40 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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I always wondered why he gave 2+/1+ while Southsea gives 1+/1+

They are both the same except for that.

Because Murloc Warleader gives it to ALL murlocs. The Southsea Captain gives it to only your minions.

Not anymore.

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#41 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Quote from Disq007 >>

Quote from tsudecimo >>

I always wondered why he gave 2+/1+ while Southsea gives 1+/1+

They are both the same except for that.

Because Murloc Warleader gives it to ALL murlocs. The Southsea Captain gives it to only your minions.

Edit: nope, scratch that, when did Murloc Warleader got a nerf like that?

nope, the Warleader buffs just friendly murlocs....

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#42 May 10, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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If you're playing those classes then why were you complaining about dragon fire potion and no AoE for rogues?

Nzoth hunter is pretty gimmicky I'm surprised you were actually able to get some wins with it. Trying teching in hungry crab

Element shaman isn't in a great spot imo, but you should have a ton of AoE taunts and heals to counter Aggro

secret mages I actually have no idea I've never played one so I don't know how they fair against Aggro paladin. I think they would be faster and clear the murlocs pretty easily though

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Quote from Hotwings1234 >>

It needs to put in the 'Hall of Fame' like Azure Drake as it appears in every Murloc deck. Everyone is just fed up of seeing it.

I'm not fed up just because it's good in his meta doesn't mean he needs to be rotated

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