That isn't the point at all dude. You are completely missing the point. Passes save us money, across all game modes. Look I'll break it down for you...
Tavern pass, battle pass, premium insider pass, preorder power pass, mega battle pass and the manastorm pass can all be yours if you just buy the super battle pass bundle, dont be stupid and buy separately, you save 15 bucks if you buy the big bundle and get 2 FREE golden legendaries. It gives you tripple xp and 500 freemium points towards the hyper pass out in 3 months too, its a great deal. GOD I LOVE LIVE SERVICE GAMING
When did Hearthpwn become such a bunch of butthurt whining threads? The attitude of people here make it difficult to want to participate in any actual conversation about the game. If you are wondering why you are miserable, you may want to look internally at how you view games and life in general. If you are upset you can't get 4 chances at a specific hero, I'm sorry that is what is making you a miserable bastard. If you are upset that a game that costs a company literally millions of dollars to maintain/develop somehow wants to find ways to recupe those costs and eventually make a profit on their efforts, you may want to read a pamphlet on simple economics.
If you are "hate playing" Hearthstone, please do us all a favor and stop making sure everyone knows how much it pains you to load it up every day and get hours of free entertainment from it. There are piles of other options out there for you that are "free" that you could be playing instead. But I'm pretty sure you'll be upset the first time you fail at a Candy Crush Saga level and storm off to the King forums to tell everyone how the levels are too hard because they *gasp* want you to buy boosts to make them easier.
its not pay to win, its pay for an advantage. You can still easily compete with battle pass users as a free to play player. In game, battle pass users have zero advantage on free to play players, unless you want to count emotes.
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Take a look at my most recent deck, Watch post, totem, menagerie shaman.
I agree with you. But what shocks me is that it seems like no one is allowed to start a critique-thread anymore, without being called a whiny, bitchy salthead.
It's beyond me. He obviously looked for a discussion, but 60% of the comments are totally worthless. It's like you fellas are racing to comment "yeah nah stop being salty". If that gives you your daily dose of dopamine and satisfaction, then I reckon it's time for a reality check. That is no good life.
That being said- having 4 heroes is obviously an advantage. And if it gives you an advantage, it will inevitably help you win more games. So, for a faster climb, it definetly makes a difference. I personally will never buy it. I play BG's with my mates and not really for the climb. Also, I like experimenting with all heroes, so it's not that big of a problem for me.
its not pay to win, its pay for an advantage. You can still easily compete with battle pass users as a free to play player. In game, battle pass users have zero advantage on free to play players, unless you want to count emotes.
Paying for an advantage is what pay to win is. Pay to win rarely actually means you paid so you 100% automatically win, it's paying for a tangible in-game advantage. having twice as many heroes to choose from over a f2p player is definitely a huge advantage, as heroes in battlegrounds have massive differences in power level. Then again standard hearthstone is also pay to win, most online ccg's inherently are, so it's a bit weird that this is where op draws the line.
Now im going to suggest something and it may blow your mind but from what they have said there will be an alternative to gold for purchasing things like arena runs and packs how about you just wait before crying so much?
I don’t know where you spent the majority of your days that has deteriorated you brain to thinking that that post is a good way to start a thread.
That being said, they are not removing the ability to farm gold, in fact quite the opposite for a BG player. You get experience from playing BGs, which will quickly give you more gold than the 10 per 3 BG wins before, so it will be very easy to ensure you have the pass permanently as a BG player.
Starts comment with insult,.,.internet tough guy confirmed, thanks for taking your time away from insulting women on Twitter to contribut nothing to this thread,
What are you missing out on by not having the Tavern Pass? Which heroes are locked right now? I'm fairly sure Zephrys (who isn't a top tier anyway) is, but are there still others? If not, then the only difference is a Tavern Pass holder has more chances to roll a good hero because of the 4 choices they get, but that's hardly "pay to win". You can still get Lich King or Omu or Rafaam like everyone else.
4 choices is in fact greater then 3, see numbers go like this, 1,2,3, then 4, which means the tavern pass provides an advantage to those that have purchased it, hence,,,,pay to win.
But you said in the OP that it is NECESSARY to get a chance at a decent hero. Lower chance =/= necessary.
Argues symantecs while pretending to not understand context of original post. Doesn’t contribute anything. Way to go!
This was fun I’m so glad i stopped back by to see such incredible responses. So far we’ve learned several things most of which is when in doubt people will ignore facts to simply spew insults.
The fact this thread even exists is astonishing. Its all of $25, which is the equivalent of about an hour of work for a lot of people. Either just pay for it and move on with your day, or don't pay for it and go complain your parents as generally they are the only people who would worry about a problem as minuscule as this.
This was fun I’m so glad i stopped back by to see such incredible responses. So far we’ve learned several things most of which is when in doubt people will ignore facts to simply spew insults.
You started of saying "hurr durr" (sp?) twice, and used numbers as words... What were you expecting? Also, can you point me in the direction of these "facts" people are ignoring?
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What's Battlegrounds?
That isn't the point at all dude. You are completely missing the point. Passes save us money, across all game modes. Look I'll break it down for you...
Tavern pass, battle pass, premium insider pass, preorder power pass, mega battle pass and the manastorm pass can all be yours if you just buy the super battle pass bundle, dont be stupid and buy separately, you save 15 bucks if you buy the big bundle and get 2 FREE golden legendaries. It gives you tripple xp and 500 freemium points towards the hyper pass out in 3 months too, its a great deal. GOD I LOVE LIVE SERVICE GAMING
When did Hearthpwn become such a bunch of butthurt whining threads? The attitude of people here make it difficult to want to participate in any actual conversation about the game. If you are wondering why you are miserable, you may want to look internally at how you view games and life in general. If you are upset you can't get 4 chances at a specific hero, I'm sorry that is what is making you a miserable bastard. If you are upset that a game that costs a company literally millions of dollars to maintain/develop somehow wants to find ways to recupe those costs and eventually make a profit on their efforts, you may want to read a pamphlet on simple economics.
If you are "hate playing" Hearthstone, please do us all a favor and stop making sure everyone knows how much it pains you to load it up every day and get hours of free entertainment from it. There are piles of other options out there for you that are "free" that you could be playing instead. But I'm pretty sure you'll be upset the first time you fail at a Candy Crush Saga level and storm off to the King forums to tell everyone how the levels are too hard because they *gasp* want you to buy boosts to make them easier.
Stop being tight and buy it then. Problem solved. Why should we who pay have to deal with your salty bullshit all the time!
Is that a murloc? Yawn....conceede!
its not pay to win, its pay for an advantage. You can still easily compete with battle pass users as a free to play player. In game, battle pass users have zero advantage on free to play players, unless you want to count emotes.
Take a look at my most recent deck, Watch post, totem, menagerie shaman.
I agree with you. But what shocks me is that it seems like no one is allowed to start a critique-thread anymore, without being called a whiny, bitchy salthead.
It's beyond me. He obviously looked for a discussion, but 60% of the comments are totally worthless. It's like you fellas are racing to comment "yeah nah stop being salty". If that gives you your daily dose of dopamine and satisfaction, then I reckon it's time for a reality check. That is no good life.
That being said- having 4 heroes is obviously an advantage. And if it gives you an advantage, it will inevitably help you win more games. So, for a faster climb, it definetly makes a difference. I personally will never buy it. I play BG's with my mates and not really for the climb. Also, I like experimenting with all heroes, so it's not that big of a problem for me.
Paying for an advantage is what pay to win is. Pay to win rarely actually means you paid so you 100% automatically win, it's paying for a tangible in-game advantage. having twice as many heroes to choose from over a f2p player is definitely a huge advantage, as heroes in battlegrounds have massive differences in power level. Then again standard hearthstone is also pay to win, most online ccg's inherently are, so it's a bit weird that this is where op draws the line.
Its calling a spade a spade
HS is pay to win. Blizz hasnt been shy hiding that fact the guy who buys $100 worth of packs has an advantage over the guy who doesnt...
The fact OPs upset that theres a P2W feature in a side game of an already P2W game is mindboggling
Now im going to suggest something and it may blow your mind but from what they have said there will be an alternative to gold for purchasing things like arena runs and packs how about you just wait before crying so much?
Who said that reading comprehension is key. Glad I stopped back by. Stay on school kid.
Starts comment with insult,.,.internet tough guy confirmed, thanks for taking your time away from insulting women on Twitter to contribut nothing to this thread,
Argues symantecs while pretending to not understand context of original post. Doesn’t contribute anything. Way to go!
It would be fantastic if you used the quote feature so as to properly direct your grammar attack. Perhaps you were too busy bumping posts on /pol
This was fun I’m so glad i stopped back by to see such incredible responses. So far we’ve learned several things most of which is when in doubt people will ignore facts to simply spew insults.
The fact this thread even exists is astonishing. Its all of $25, which is the equivalent of about an hour of work for a lot of people. Either just pay for it and move on with your day, or don't pay for it and go complain your parents as generally they are the only people who would worry about a problem as minuscule as this.
You started of saying "hurr durr" (sp?) twice, and used numbers as words... What were you expecting? Also, can you point me in the direction of these "facts" people are ignoring?