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@Caio2467: I have had the best luck so far with this version of N'Zoth Priest. I changed a Shifting Shade for Eater of Secrets because 2/3 of opponents on NA server play with secrets. I changed Excavating Evil for Holy Nova because I needed healing and face damage and extra Cleric activation. I changed Sky Golem for Cairne because I don't have Cairne and I don't have a ton of dust.
However, the deck does not dominate. There is no easy coast to rank 5 or more. I really don't understand people who say Priest is so dominant in Wild. I've stalled at Rank 10. Of course, everyone posting here is in the EU server, where perhaps it's easier. N'Zoth Priest is better than non-optimized archetypes like Beast Druid, but it struggles against any of the powerful decks on the NA server, including some of the agro murloc decks that are popping up. Against the powerful archetypes, It can only win if its draw is good and the opponent's is bad. It has a negative win rate against Secret Paladin, which is very bad.
I contrast this with the performance of my C'thun Druid deck on the EU server, where I ladder on Standard and just hit Rank 5 while playing around 8 games a day. (It's my own list since the lists floating around out there aren't competitive past rank 13.) It's a f2p account, and the only legendary in my deck besides C'thun is Twin Emperor. That ladder just seems so much easier.
Really? NA ladder it's more difficult than EU? i didn't know, i thought the decks are plus or minus the same without so many difference! Ok, take my words with a bit of patience and understanding then, sorry for my noob-ish ignorance about other country ladders :P
I've just reached rank 3 in Wild on EU with my N'Zoth's Hell, here some numbers just to show you how it is working: VS Mid Shaman i'm 8W-9L, VS Mage (Tempo and Freeze) 8W-11L and the other are all good matchup for me; for example VS Secret Paladin i'm currently 18W-12L and against other Priest decks faced till now i have an amazing 12W-1L!
To ding Legend maybe i should change deck but to be honest i dont care so much about it, i play mostly for fun and relax ;)
Many people already tech against Priest, so it's not as easy anymore, that's for sure. But it's not that Priest is because of that weak, that's the normal meta-shift. Once people tech against decks that tech against Priest, Priest will be stronger again.
Still i don't think that Eater of Secrets is actually a good solution, since it's so bad against decks that don't have secrets. I rather proc these secrets and deal with it with my removals.
Especially nowadays Paladin only run 3 secrets instead of 4 to deal with Eater of Secrets more easily. Makes the deck more inconsistent, but also not as vulnerable against Eater of Secrets. Against these kind of decks i think that decks without it are actually stronger.
I rather play Holy Champion instead of Eater of Secrets: it's a win-condition by itself, and i can't count how many games i won with her; either with dealing a ton of damage or forcing the enemy's premium removals on her (I think that she's actually one of the most underrated minions in the game; she was actually quite bad before the nerf of Big Game Hunter, but now it's much harder to deal with her)
I wasn't a Zombie Chow's fan without any converting healing/damage but anyway as 1 mana drop it is a great option, because allow you to make good early trades, can be buffed on the turns 1 (with coin) /2/3 (against other priest buff it with a Velen's Chosen means get a 4/7 that isn't bad) and works well with Northshire Cleric due to its 3 hp. The +5 heal doesn't make the difference even if N'Zoth, the Corruptor resummon it because often you will have more damages than you need on board.
Great discussion going on here :) I'd like to share my deck that straight up murders Control. It's good against aggro as well but not as consistent since it runs many expensive cards - so it quite depends on the draws. If I feel that I'm running into too much aggro (like at the beginning of the season when everyone tries to climb quickly) I switch decks; if I still feel like playing Priest I switch to Dragon Priest which I feel performs better against tempo and aggro decks. However I never get that far on ladder (finish at rank 10 every season but never push higher) - constructive criticism and suggestions welcome :)
Really? NA ladder it's more difficult than EU? i didn't know, i thought the decks are plus or minus the same without so many difference! Ok, take my words with a bit of patience and understanding then, sorry for my noob-ish ignorance about other country ladders :P
I've just reached rank 3 in Wild on EU with my N'Zoth's Hell, here some numbers just to show you how it is working: VS Mid Shaman i'm 8W-9L, VS Mage (Tempo and Freeze) 8W-11L and the other are all good matchup for me; for example VS Secret Paladin i'm currently 18W-12L and against other Priest decks faced till now i have an amazing 12W-1L!
To ding Legend maybe i should change deck but to be honest i dont care so much about it, i play mostly for fun and relax ;)
Peace, love and good weed. Even just tons of good weed can be enough, thanks!
Many people already tech against Priest, so it's not as easy anymore, that's for sure. But it's not that Priest is because of that weak, that's the normal meta-shift. Once people tech against decks that tech against Priest, Priest will be stronger again.
Still i don't think that Eater of Secrets is actually a good solution, since it's so bad against decks that don't have secrets. I rather proc these secrets and deal with it with my removals.
Especially nowadays Paladin only run 3 secrets instead of 4 to deal with Eater of Secrets more easily. Makes the deck more inconsistent, but also not as vulnerable against Eater of Secrets. Against these kind of decks i think that decks without it are actually stronger.
I rather play Holy Champion instead of Eater of Secrets: it's a win-condition by itself, and i can't count how many games i won with her; either with dealing a ton of damage or forcing the enemy's premium removals on her (I think that she's actually one of the most underrated minions in the game; she was actually quite bad before the nerf of Big Game Hunter, but now it's much harder to deal with her)
I wasn't a Zombie Chow's fan without any converting healing/damage but anyway as 1 mana drop it is a great option, because allow you to make good early trades, can be buffed on the turns 1 (with coin) /2/3 (against other priest buff it with a Velen's Chosen means get a 4/7 that isn't bad) and works well with Northshire Cleric due to its 3 hp. The +5 heal doesn't make the difference even if N'Zoth, the Corruptor resummon it because often you will have more damages than you need on board.
Peace, love and good weed. Even just tons of good weed can be enough, thanks!
Yeah - zombie chow is there so you actually have something to play before turn 3.
Great discussion going on here :) I'd like to share my deck that straight up murders Control. It's good against aggro as well but not as consistent since it runs many expensive cards - so it quite depends on the draws. If I feel that I'm running into too much aggro (like at the beginning of the season when everyone tries to climb quickly) I switch decks; if I still feel like playing Priest I switch to Dragon Priest which I feel performs better against tempo and aggro decks. However I never get that far on ladder (finish at rank 10 every season but never push higher) - constructive criticism and suggestions welcome :)