Had the opportunity to draft it in my freebie arena round, and so far this card was fairly decent for me. It feels like the Mage's situational version of Divine Favor, and if you're able to get 3+ minions from it, it's an Arcane Intellect for +1 cost and that you have control over what to duplicate(idk, is that a good comparison?). Do you guys think this card might see play in constructed in an aggro/midrange Mage deck?
Seems like it'd be sick with giants, especially if they're 0 cost, so long as you survive and keep them alive. Duplicate can get crap with mad scientist so the certainty from this will be nice. It's a dead card most the time because you'd rather spend your mana on board control. Seems like a win more card if you're using it to great effect on anything but giants imo. Could be great for aggro.
Seems like it'd be sick with giants, especially if they're 0 cost, so long as you survive and keep them alive. Duplicate can get crap with mad scientist so the certainty from this will be nice. It's a dead card most the time because you'd rather spend your mana on board control. Seems like a win more card if you're using it to great effect on anything but giants imo. Could be great for aggro.
Agree, it's definitely win more, although I can see this being tried in an aggro mage mech deck. It may even replace a Duplicate in Hype's Mage Control Giants deck(if it becomes viable in the new meta) for more consistency.
Sorcerer's Apprentice + Mirror Image is my favorite "basic" board state and getting a backup copy of it with the Echo already feels very potent to me and if you had even single minion at the start of your turn 5+ (when you can chain SA, MI and EoM) things get completely crazy. Getting 0-mana Mirror Image minions to your hand is also great when running Archmage Antonidas so you can drop the free images and Spellbender to protect him really well even if you had empty board at the start of the turn.
Naturally you can also slot some Duplicates and Molten Giants into the same shell for some serious SA or giant cloning shenanigans. Or maybe you can go more aggro with Echo, I hear Knife Juggler appreciates copy pasting Mirror Images.
In Arena, this card is a top tier pick, IMO (though you should only draft one, really). I haven't found a situation where it's completely useless, and in Arena you tend right now to need to draft a lot of low cost minions anyway, especially as Mage, who doesn't really have any big lategame stuff.
In constructed, I could see it in an aggro deck, but only one copy - it's not worth running two, as one would usually end up a dead card.
Haven't used it but it looks very good to me. If you draw 2 it's a slightly overpriced Arcane Intellect with the advantage that you can control what you get and don't deplete your deck; if you draw 3+ it's even better. In addition, you can get extra copies of good cards which means in constructed you can get 2x of a legendary or 3x of any other card, and in arena you can just make copies of whatever your best drafts were. I will agree it seems slow and you have to consider the alternative draw mechanics in the class, but I think at least in arena it looks quite powerful.
This is not necessarily a win more card. In close control matches, using this to duplicate a single big minion (especially legendaries) can turn the game in your favour. There is nothing more rage-concede inducing than having to deal with one Sylvanas/Troggzor/Ragnaros/Ysera and then realise that you have to do it all over again.
Echo of Medivh
Had the opportunity to draft it in my freebie arena round, and so far this card was fairly decent for me. It feels like the Mage's situational version of Divine Favor, and if you're able to get 3+ minions from it, it's an Arcane Intellect for +1 cost and that you have control over what to duplicate(idk, is that a good comparison?). Do you guys think this card might see play in constructed in an aggro/midrange Mage deck?
im running an arena with it and won the last two games thanks to it.
It has crazy sinergy with deathrattle minions, and as you said, when you get more than 3 minions you win.
One mage with Sylvanas and this card ruined my pally deck. I was also unlucky, but that draw was lethal.
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Seems like it'd be sick with giants, especially if they're 0 cost, so long as you survive and keep them alive. Duplicate can get crap with mad scientist so the certainty from this will be nice. It's a dead card most the time because you'd rather spend your mana on board control. Seems like a win more card if you're using it to great effect on anything but giants imo. Could be great for aggro.
Agree, it's definitely win more, although I can see this being tried in an aggro mage mech deck. It may even replace a Duplicate in Hype's Mage Control Giants deck(if it becomes viable in the new meta) for more consistency.
Sorcerer's Apprentice + Mirror Image is my favorite "basic" board state and getting a backup copy of it with the Echo already feels very potent to me and if you had even single minion at the start of your turn 5+ (when you can chain SA, MI and EoM) things get completely crazy. Getting 0-mana Mirror Image minions to your hand is also great when running Archmage Antonidas so you can drop the free images and Spellbender to protect him really well even if you had empty board at the start of the turn.
Naturally you can also slot some Duplicates and Molten Giants into the same shell for some serious SA or giant cloning shenanigans. Or maybe you can go more aggro with Echo, I hear Knife Juggler appreciates copy pasting Mirror Images.
I had it in my draft deck as well, secured 2 victories with it and lost with it in topdeck mode. Its too situational i feel
Echo of medivh is really Op in arena if your ahead at least its really good xD
Seals the deal if you have 3ish creatures, otherwise dead in hand. Also a big tempo loss if you play it early.
What people don't realise is Duplicate has much less tempo loss because of Mad Scientist or if you're really living on the edge Kirin Tor Mage.
Maybe a singleton in some constructed decks?
Mage got kind of screwed over with Epics and Legendaries in this set. Thankfully Unstable Portal made up for it to an extent.
Are the mirror image minions spells when returened to the hand?
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i wouldnt think so. they are straight copies of the card themselves.
nop just minions and you get 2...
In Arena, this card is a top tier pick, IMO (though you should only draft one, really). I haven't found a situation where it's completely useless, and in Arena you tend right now to need to draft a lot of low cost minions anyway, especially as Mage, who doesn't really have any big lategame stuff.
In constructed, I could see it in an aggro deck, but only one copy - it's not worth running two, as one would usually end up a dead card.
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If your board state is good enough to get value out of this card, AND you have 4 mana to spare, you've already won.
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Haven't used it but it looks very good to me. If you draw 2 it's a slightly overpriced Arcane Intellect with the advantage that you can control what you get and don't deplete your deck; if you draw 3+ it's even better. In addition, you can get extra copies of good cards which means in constructed you can get 2x of a legendary or 3x of any other card, and in arena you can just make copies of whatever your best drafts were. I will agree it seems slow and you have to consider the alternative draw mechanics in the class, but I think at least in arena it looks quite powerful.
Now that I think a bit more about it, I have found one use: Aggro Mage's version of Divine Favor.
Dump all your minions on the board, after which you normally lose, but with this you can copy them and keep up the pressure.
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This card is so OP! I love using it and my deck isn't agro!
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This is not necessarily a win more card. In close control matches, using this to duplicate a single big minion (especially legendaries) can turn the game in your favour. There is nothing more rage-concede inducing than having to deal with one Sylvanas/Troggzor/Ragnaros/Ysera and then realise that you have to do it all over again.