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Hafu is easily the best HS streamer. So, you know nothing, noob.

I think that is an objective opinion. And Hafu sucks major balls on entertainment.

I agree that Hafu is the best female streamer I've watched, and I think she's pretty good.  And I also agree that she's pretty dry, so won't be everyone's cup of tea...but I have a dry personality myself, and primarily watch to learn, so it doesn't bother me.

I haven't watched much of DeerNadia, so can't speak to her skills compared to Hafu.

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Why didn't you just ask which stream(er) we watch/we like for

a) entertainment

b) learning

If you would have raised your question positvely there would be no issue at all. But your negative approach to this subject had to lead the thread to go like this

If you want e-sports to be considered on the same tier as regular 'sports', then you'd better get used to questions like this.  Discussions about who is underrated/overrated are constant fodder for debate in the sports world.  Many sports fans like these types of debates.  So, if professional Hearthstone streaming is a 'sport', then these sorts of questions are fair game.

Control priest (as mentioned above) and mill druid are two others I'd add to the original list, primarily because those games seem to take forever. I played two mill druids this weekend, splitting the games.  One game took 15 minutes, the other took 25(!).  I won the second, and it's a good thing because I would've thrown something otherwise, if I'd lost an investment of that much time.

Agree with the above suggestion, heartharena is a better site nowadays.

I like the new cards, overall, and think the number of popular, viable decks in the meta could be doubled now, leading to some welcome variety.  What I was disappointed by were the lack of other new game features aside from cards - things like increased deck slots, new game modes, etc.  The fact that we likely won't see anything further for another year makes the lack of new features this year even more disappointing.

In general, I was a little disappointed that the expansion (apparently) doesn't have any gameplay enhancements other than observer mode.  That, and the fact that there was no added synergy with dragons.

Not sure there's a wasted draw.  If the mine is just attached to a card, the opponent might still get a card.  It's not entirely clear from the current wording.

Yeah, the primary value I see here is that it's a free Mech for synergy purposes.  Not sure that'll be enough to get it used, but time will tell.

A card that activates deathrattles without killing minions?  :)

Sorry i don't have the link, but about a month ago Reynad on stream took about an hour to explain Blizzard's matchmaking, and although i'm sure it's speculation, he's gathered a mountain of data and was basically predicting his match-ups that entire hour with no deviations.  Based on my own experiences it seems to line up.  Basically it was this:

1) Every deck you build has independent win/loss data saved by blizzard as you play it (it also looks for identical decks and adds your data to that). 

2) When it encounters a deck it is unfamiliar with (say you swap in a rando card) it will take 5 games or 3 wins in a row or 3 losses in a row (whichever comes first) before it starts to stack matches in a certain way against you (see next point)

3) For sure blizzard ramps difficultly both as you rank and as you get win streaks.  If you win 3 games in a row, it will start throwing decks at you that are statistically likely to beat you.  When you lose 3 in a row, it then reverts to just random deck RNG (no attempt to make it easy - just not stacked)

4) This effect is much more noticeable at ranks up till about 3-4 as at that point the diversity of decks goes way down.

Basically this is why when you load up a new deck, suddenly you are playing against a new meta (because you are).

So what can you learn from this?  I have had WAY more success building 4-5 versions of the same deck with minor card variations (like a random Spellbreaker in one, a Frost Elemental in the other) and as soon as I hit a win streak switching to another deck.  Has taken me basically from rank 20 to rank 5 in a couple of days (i only get a couple hours a day to play).

TLDR:  yup, matchmaking is rigged and you can use that to your benefit.  Don't believe me try it.

Playing Tempo Warrior. Enemy was playing Tempo Shaman. I kept his board clear for 9 turns, keeping cards-in-hand about in parity and whittling him down 2-3 damage per turn. Then he plays Sneed's Old Shredder.  

Cruel Taskmaster. Execute. Sneed's Old Shredder summons: Sneed's Old Shredder!  

Gorehowl for 5, attack it for 2 with Screwjank Clunker. Sneed's Old Shredder summons: Sneed's Old Shredder!  

Leeroy Jenkins. Whirlwind. Kill that sumbitch again.  Sneed's Old Shredder summons: Sneed's Old Shredder!  

...I CHOOSE DEATH!

You all are crazy to keep saying legendary cards mean nothing. Sure, you need to learn the game, but Legendary cards make a huge difference and can literally make games near impossible to win as he said. And for people who are new to HS, the better you are, the sooner this becomes apparent/creates problems/makes HS hard to continue.

The first week of playing this game, in under 30 wins, I made it to rank 14, having never played before, with an all Basic deck. Built my own deck, but after a while looked online, only to find that Trump Basic deck was nearly identical to the one I created. Strat games are my thing(suck at FPS), I just excel at numbers and thinking games, so not surprising to find my custom deck the same as a pros recommendations.

Around rank 14 though, same problem as OP mentioned, every other card dropped is a Legend. At the same time I find it quite comical that most of the people I'm playing against have 500 wins and full Legendary decks, many golden cards, yet they stuck at 14 playing against someone whos got full Basic and <1 week on playing time. That clearly shows that they are bad players. However it makes it that much more demoralizing, to know that I'm simply losing to P2W mechanics.

Some would say play more then you can get free. But that's a major point:  this game is bad for people who are good players when they start. If I sucked more, ladder would be more fun, but that's the tough spot ur in if good. Not good enough cards to progress further, yet not much reason to keep playing since you already maxd your Ranked level, and the next step up is behind a pay wall.

HS suffers from one of the main problems all P2W games have: If you start at Beta, you can easily never pay anything, and have most things paying players would. However this model makes it increasingly harder for new players to join, as the longer after Beta they join, the more they have to pay or the bigger disadvantage they have. Quite a questionable model, the longer the game is around the harder it screams "stay away new players," and the harder it gets to join the game. This is why P2W sucks.

This is also why most P2W games never last that long. Kind of hard to keep a game going when a result of P2W is almost always huge power creep, and making the game harder to join as time goes on. HS might last longer than most but the P2W mechanics is still going to eventually cause a pop. drop, and with the discouragement to new players, who can fill the gap?

You don't need them so much in a rush deck, but in control? It's kind of hard to build a control deck without legendary cards. Maybe instead of saying you don't need Legendary, you should say "You don't need Legendary if you want to play a boring AF aggro face deck."

There is a reason why nearly everyone plays with Legendary cards in high level constructed, and it's not because people are thinking "I'm gonna include these Legend cards to make it more challenging and lower my chances of winning" Legends are included for the exact opposite reason, they cost more, but they also increase odds to win games, make your deck better.

To make it as clear as possible: Do you think you would have a better chance of beating Trump, or any other pro for that matter, with them using a Legend deck, or a Basic deck? The answer is clearly the latter. Anyone arguing the former has got a screw loose.