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What about Lich King or Ysera?  Sure they cost more, but they give much better value cards. 

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I have played Highlander priest for 311 games...

 Are you the devil?

lol i dont think so, isn't the # of the beast 666?

Quote from EZJC >>

Thanks for all the tips.  I think you made some great points.  I am running deathrattle version.  And as you mentioned, I am running Prophet Velen without Mind Blast.  I can see how this is less than optimal.  Here's the deck I am using.  Any suggestions to make space?  Should I switch out Mass Dispel for Silence.  I like the card draw....

N'zoth Highlander Highlander Priest Deck by EZJC - Sep 26, 2017 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (16) 1x Bloodmage Thalnos 1x Cairne Bloodhoof 1x Kazakus 1x N'Zoth, the Corruptor 1x Prophet Velen 1x Raza the Chained 1x Curious Glimmerroot 1x Obsidian Statue 1x Second-Rate Bruiser 1x Stonehill Defender 1x Loot Hoarder 1x Northshire Cleric 1x Priest of the Feast 1x Tar Creeper 1x Tortollan Shellraiser 1x Gnomish Inventor	Ability (13) 1x Dragonfire Potion 1x Shadow Visions 1x Eternal Servitude 1x Greater Healing Potion 1x Mass Dispel 1x Pint-Size Potion 1x Shadow Word: Horror 1x Holy Nova 1x Mind Blast 1x Shadow Word: Death 1x Spirit Lash 1x Power Word: Shield 1x Shadow Word: Pain	Playable Hero (1) 1x Shadowreaper Anduin
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oop, sorry, didn't see it for some reason; if you start ahead on health and you've got the OTK, then it is pretty much a 5 mana OP velen, but there's a high chance this could backfire pretty bad at first glance. i never actually thought of it, i'll do some testing and let you know, and maybe you can run him for a bit yourself and see what you come up with, post results here?

another thing is that in WILD there's so many cards that you can now play around with, i wonder if there isn't just better cards to take his place like lightbomb or velen himself, who doesn't get the nod in a lot of decks, but it is hard to resist a 6 dmg to face per hero power use. would take 3 cards to kill an opponent at 20 health

yeah i always try to wonder what else could i run instead of her, but i can't think of what to put in instead of her. i've been really tempted by mass dispel but, out of all the games i've done so far without it i never really thought "wow, i wish i had mass dispel now", but i did sometimes wish i had the distraction of lyra to throw on the board

maybe there's some hidden replacement out there for her, besides tar creeper, but it's imperceivable to me

no this is what this thread's about, it's great to see so much input; i agree that n'zoth could change this deck into control, but now that i think about it maybe mind blast isn't what should be cut. if there was a way to put ANOTHER win condition into priest, without sacrificing the consistency of either by having them interfere with each other (for ex. cutting card draw for deathrattle cards, or vital combo pieces), that would be mint.

just taking the list on top of the page as an example, if Cabal Shadow Priest, Doomsayer Curious Glimmerroot and Lyra the Sunshard made way for N'zoth, cairne, shellraiser and say polluted hoarder, and if novice engineer would be swapped for loot hoarder, this list would not only get another win condition, it would also get +1 card draw and +3 draws from playing n'zoth, never mind the ability to play on the curve a lot of time and not rely on board clears..

holy..

@SchruteBucks yeah i hear what you mean, lyra in a lot of cases is like acolyte, it's impossible to get 100% of value out of her, but she forces removal and often your opponent wastes a turn standing on their head trying to remove her, be it with swipe or leeroy or twisting nether; it takes away their cards and buys you a turn, and if she lives, you can start cycling your larger spells that you can determine you might or might not need later on.

TLDR i dont think any single card in this deck gets used to its potential, besides raza and kazakus. the power comes from the sum of all parts. if lyra was to be dropped, i would include another threat that forces immediate action, and i can't really think of one. or more card draw (mass dispel?)

TLDR of TLDR good point lol

and on the topic of Cabal shadow priests in the original deck, only reason she stayed instead of more card draw is because shadow word horror is now not the only card that benefits from pint size potion

definitely velen, because he also buffs your hero power, and it's double, not +1. thalnos can be replaced by zealot, and to compensate for the loss of card draw you can drop something for mass dispel.

also as far as hsreplay goes, it doesn't give me access to all of it's stats, so i see what you're talking about, that big priest is top of the list, but it's not constricted to rank 5-legend, which in my opinion is what matters here, and where the most refined versions of all decks reside and duke it out for supremacy. it's also hard for me to tell what period of time they're recording these stats over.

metastats.net has elise less HP as the most successful deck in all of the meta over the last 4 days right no, standing at a whopping 81% win rate above rank 5. 81!!

http://metastats.net/

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Can we discuss two cards please:

Kabal Talonpriest - I ran this card for a long time.  I'm trying the deck without it for now.  Most of the time it's simply a 3/4 on a bare board.  I thought, if that's the case, what is it really doing to support the win condition?  Not much.   For now, I'm trying a second taunt minion, Second-Rate Bruiser.  The only other taunt minion in the deck (Tar Creeper) is - in my opinion - somewhat weak because it lets the opponent dictate trades and doesn't allow you to make favorable trades of your own.  Also, unlike Tar Creeper, SRB isn't vulnerable to Shadow Word: Pain (arguably the second best target in the mirror, after Priest of the Feast). 

Acolyte of Pain - this is almost always a 3 mana "draw one card" and often a 3 mana "use up removal".  I honestly don't see this card getting a lot of value in most matchups.  In the mirror, it's vulnerable to Potion of Madness and Silence, and does not contest any turn 3 board whatsoever. 

i tried bully for a while but while it can be really good if you get all your combo pieces out, it also means you need to hold on to 4-5 coins for a long period of the game, and if the opponent knows what they're doing and u have say 8 cards in hand and play bully, they cast 3 spells and u start milling yourself unless u throw all ur coins away anyways

no, opposite, most lists include elise and the top list on hearthpwn even goes as far as to include cairne bloodhoof, lich king, and n'zoth, while ommiting velen, which is actually ridiculous. so no, not everyone knows the list, and this has nothing to do with net decking, it's about tech card selection; did you bother to read the post or do you just like the sound of your own voice lol?

EDIT: said 'actually' twice in one sentence lol

So I've been looking over this forum and the amount of discrepancies on how to play Highlander priest is just insane. Everybody has their own idea, and honestly that's what the game is about, but after 311 games and 11 revisions with my own version of the Highlander, I hope you listen to my own 2 cents and think about what I got to say here lol.

A quick note: I've been playing priest since Goblins vs Gnomes came out, after I was rank 25 and someone shadow word pain'ed my frothing berserker, which was my first rare. I thought that was OP as **** and decided I'll do priest. 1559 wins later I finally hit legend lol

Ok so let's get started.

• I see most people wonder about is the inclusion of Prophet Velen. How is this even up for discussion? YES. If you don't have prophet velen, who buffs your hero power, what is the point of playing a deck that is centered around using your hero power to finish off the opponent, be it to clear the board or go for lethal, or to complete your OTK? Auto include.
• This begs the inclusion of Mind Blast. If you don't have it, auto concede all mirror match ups, cuz you either rush your opponent down with your borderline combo deck that's missing pieces, or wait long enough for your opponent to draw into up to 40dmg in a turn, and all the armor in the world isn't going to save you at that point.
• At this point to any logical person it's becoming obvious this is a combo deck. Not midrange, not aggro, not really control because you're going to cough out the FINITE amount of damage you can deal. Combo-deck. Let's say this again, RAZAKUS is a COMBO deck. What's the most important thing in a combo deck? I'm no expert but probably card draw. And some people leave this up to chance and tech in oozes and geists and make excuses that "it helps in this meta cuz weapons and jade and stuff". You know what else helps in this, and frankly, any meta? Drawing your win condition. Bloodmage Thalnos, Novice Engineer, Gnomish Inventor, Shadow Visions, Power Word: Shield and Acolyte of Pain are the bare minimum. BARE MINIMUM.
• "I don't have kazakus is there a replacement?" NO. There is not. Not in standard at least, and in wild the replacment is either Lightbomb or Reno Jackson. Kazakus is there to make your RNG based deck even more RNG based, and win you games by creating unfair advantages. It's a must have because it improves the consistency of the deck. It's like
• not including Raza. are you kidding me?
• Elise the Trailblazer. THIS IS ALL IN CAPS BECAUSE HOLY CRAP I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH. DON'T EVER PLAY ELISE!! "Oh but it won me this game and that game and I like her and she cost me 1600 dust so I have to play her, also, value" NO. STOP. I don't care which pro players you saw include her in the deck, they might not have ever played priest before and if they include elise "cuz value, especially with shadow visions", you and them are really missing the point of this deck. Cuz it's combo, not control. You HAVE to finish the game by the time you draw for the 26th time, cuz if the game got to that point you're playing vs someone who created their deck to beat u in the long run anyways, and 5, hell, 10 more random cards are not going to do you any good vs mill warrior or jade druid that now spawns 10/10s. "oh but that's why i tech'd geist in".. well then play secret mage if you wanna play geist cuz you must've cut card draw for it, and if you're cutting card draw from a highlander deck... most of my wins vs priest came off guys who ran elise, and all my losses were vs big priest or a highlander that got the combo faster than i did.
• with all this said, there isn't all that many flexible spots in this deck list. honeslty you know what the most flexible card in this deck might be? The Northshire Cleric, but then again no, because it draws removal, stops early plays, and draws you cards. 2nd most flexible is Curious Glimmerroot, because you could actually swap it out for more of your own card draw.

These are just some things i noticed that are simply misplays that happen before the game even begins, and I've seen priest, my all time fave, go through some serious slumps, so it'd be nice to cement him as an all time great for at least a couple seasons, like when dragon priest was annihilating the ladder.

This is obviously all just my opinion, and I'm really interested in what you guys might have to say, cuz maybe it'll open my eyes to something im missing from the picture and ultimately lead to an even better deck list for everyone

 EDIT: I've posted my deck, here's the list