Token druid I've been swatting away with secret mage. You can pretty regularly do 2+ AoE damage.
Paladin is...... A bit rough. I do think the coin into scales interaction is insane. Even if you don't get it on turn 4, it's a pretty crazy swing given the buffed rush minions it usually pulls. I have started quite quickly conceding against them if I know I'm not drawing well. It's just inevitable that a loss is incoming. The amount of board flood is pretty crazy with N'zoth as well, it just has a lot of win conditions which makes it a tough deck to beat.
I think warrior would do well against both. Maybe a clear heavy warlock? But the warlock would likely be sacrificing its win rate against other decks by targeting them.
There's been many many other op, rampant, noninteractive decks in the past. The part that's gotten worse with hearthstone is the amount of people that only play the strongest decks. That happens with every game though and it's been like this with hearthstone for a bit. If your deck is bad into the meta then you'll probably have a bad time. Either you need to adapt to make your deck better into them or you just might have to start playing a better deck for the meta. It's going to be pretty hard to build a deck that's good against most of the optimized most played decks
As for your deck, I'm not sure if the pyros are good, hysteria seems better. A draconic studies might be better than the dragons. Double ooze might be too much. One ooze might even be, depending on what you play against. It's possible you might need to try seperating c'thun and nzoth into two different decks. Maybe you're missing a card that's pretty good for your deck like veilweaver or hysteria or illucia or something.
On a different note, I'm sure you prefer making your own decks but there was a no minion c'thun priest I saw. Not a very good winrate but probably decent into druid. It's just all the good priest cards and board clears, which you're running most of already. And also you might be able to fit a high priestess abara + idol of y'shaarj combo into a n'zoth deck but it also just might not be very good.
If u see ramp paly or braindead druid, just use warlock or priest with aoes. I have hit legend with warlock last month and ress priest this month. Farming those aggro netdecks is easy this month with Priest.
If u see ramp paly or braindead druid, just use warlock or priest with aoes. I have hit legend with warlock last month and ress priest this month. Farming those aggro netdecks is easy this month with Priest.
Board Flooding Druids Paladins that just buff a minion (most boring deck in history) Paladins who just flood the board (board spamming again) Aggro Mages Aggro Rogues Aggro Warriors Warlocks who destroy control or combo decks (so nobody plays them) Priests same old sh*** with their res stuff. its just annoying and pure cancer to play against Hunter go face DH I dont even see them anymore
Even if u find a deck u enjoy playing. U cant because of the above mentioned cancer decks to play against. I have played since day 1 and never have I not enjoyed this game as I am doing it right now. Its the worst state its ever been.
Against Rogues keep taunt and cheap AOE and healing card (same for Hunters and Demon Hunters),
Against Druids keep cheap AOEs and against Pallys keep 9 mana AOEs and other AOEs. Against control Warlocks the only way to win is to copy paste their 5 mana legendary shuffle 3 cards with Soul Mirror and then ressurect it few times (but it works surprisingly well). If you can't copy paste dont use any card draw during whole match. It is pretty hard to master Priest to be honest, so just copy that deck is not enough I believe.
### Big # Class: Priest # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Renew # 2x (2) Insight # 1x (2) Penance # 1x (2) Shadow Word: Death # 2x (3) Breath of the Infinite # 2x (3) Hysteria # 2x (3) Palm Reading # 1x (4) Archmage Vargoth # 1x (4) Holy Nova # 2x (5) Convincing Infiltrator # 2x (6) Khartut Defender # 1x (7) Soul Mirror # 1x (8) Catrina Muerte # 2x (8) Idol of Y'Shaarj # 2x (9) Blood of G'huun # 2x (9) Mass Resurrection # 2x (9) Plague of Death # 1x (10) C'Thun, the Shattered # 1x (10) Scrapyard Colossus # AAECAd35AwjJBtMK1pkDk5sDmakD87sDyL4Dv+ADC4KUA5mbA6GhA5+pA/KsA5O6A+LeA/rfA/vfA/zfA/jjAwA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Far from agreeing with OP (this kind of thread is pretty pointless rly), but I wanted to point out this is indeed a very strange meta. I have not seen a SINGLE Cheese Pally or Token Druid so far at legend this month, all I see is Aggro Rogue, OTK DK and Mozaki Mage non-stop.
My guess is that people at legend are so tired of the current meta they are not rly playing the best decks anymore, just what they think is fun. I dont see another explanation for OTK DK and Mozaki Mage, these decks are hilariously bad, but flashy af when they work so people play them anyway.
The game is way, way too fast right now. It is all hyper aggro or brutal stalling decks. The latter are designed to counter the aggro.
Aggro Rogue and Burn Mage / Mozaki Mage can kill you very quickly. I've been killed by Rogue on turn 5. I never had a chance. Nothing I did mattered.
Ramp Paladin is stupid, and if they get their combo off on turn 4 or 5, it can also end games. Zoolock with a strong start is very oppressive too. Oh, and there's Gibberling druid, which has killed me on turn 3.
On the other side of the ledger you face the the decks that make you go MALD. Priest, Control / ETC Warrior, and Libram Paladin.
How many "normal" decks that just do reasonable things every turn exist?
I've heard quite a few streamers complain about the state of the game now. It's not just the OP.
Ramp paladin isn’t even that strong and there are loads of ways to counter token druid.
How can you say cheese paladin isn't that good??
If you want to climb fast try weapon rogue, its good and fast deck and not requires any Legendary card,
Try the list by MeatiHS (on his twitter) he got rank 1 legend. - I agree that token druid is very strong (I climbed to legend with it and had very high win rate), - Ramp Paladin is strong but sometime they don't draw the early cheat,
The game is way, way too fast right now. It is all hyper aggro or brutal stalling decks. The latter are designed to counter the aggro.
Aggro Rogue and Burn Mage / Mozaki Mage can kill you very quickly. I've been killed by Rogue on turn 5. I never had a chance. Nothing I did mattered.
Ramp Paladin is stupid, and if they get their combo off on turn 4 or 5, it can also end games. Zoolock with a strong start is very oppressive too. Oh, and there's Gibberling druid, which has killed me on turn 3.
On the other side of the ledger you face the the decks that make you go MALD. Priest, Control / ETC Warrior, and Libram Paladin.
How many "normal" decks that just do reasonable things every turn exist?
I've heard quite a few streamers complain about the state of the game now. It's not just the OP.
At least the meta is diverse and you have some options (if you have the cards), there are several good archetypes. all classes see some play. DH and face hunter are less oppressive, the fast decks will always shape the meta, Blizzard knows to stop aggro from being OP since otherwise it wont be able to sell the expensive legendary cards :)
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I dunno.. I got legend previous month without even trying. Now I'm tier 1 without even trying.. games are pretty easy when every opponent is copy of another (kingsbane, even pally, secret mage, highlander warlock)
I remade my highlander warlock to disruptive gameplay without typical bloodreaver gul'dan, mal'ganis etc. and I'm having super fun.
I'm controlling game so hard I can even use Lord Jaraxxus... OBLIVION !!! (will change him to dragonqueen alexzandra later but that is best emotion in this game. period.)
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Token druid I've been swatting away with secret mage. You can pretty regularly do 2+ AoE damage.
Paladin is...... A bit rough. I do think the coin into scales interaction is insane. Even if you don't get it on turn 4, it's a pretty crazy swing given the buffed rush minions it usually pulls. I have started quite quickly conceding against them if I know I'm not drawing well. It's just inevitable that a loss is incoming. The amount of board flood is pretty crazy with N'zoth as well, it just has a lot of win conditions which makes it a tough deck to beat.
I think warrior would do well against both. Maybe a clear heavy warlock? But the warlock would likely be sacrificing its win rate against other decks by targeting them.
There's been many many other op, rampant, noninteractive decks in the past. The part that's gotten worse with hearthstone is the amount of people that only play the strongest decks. That happens with every game though and it's been like this with hearthstone for a bit. If your deck is bad into the meta then you'll probably have a bad time. Either you need to adapt to make your deck better into them or you just might have to start playing a better deck for the meta. It's going to be pretty hard to build a deck that's good against most of the optimized most played decks
As for your deck, I'm not sure if the pyros are good, hysteria seems better. A draconic studies might be better than the dragons. Double ooze might be too much. One ooze might even be, depending on what you play against. It's possible you might need to try seperating c'thun and nzoth into two different decks. Maybe you're missing a card that's pretty good for your deck like veilweaver or hysteria or illucia or something.
On a different note, I'm sure you prefer making your own decks but there was a no minion c'thun priest I saw. Not a very good winrate but probably decent into druid. It's just all the good priest cards and board clears, which you're running most of already. And also you might be able to fit a high priestess abara + idol of y'shaarj combo into a n'zoth deck but it also just might not be very good.
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at is core the game just isnt good anymore. the powercreep and randomness completely destroyed it.
but classic is on the horizon, so it might become a little better again.
If u see ramp paly or braindead druid, just use warlock or priest with aoes. I have hit legend with warlock last month and ress priest this month. Farming those aggro netdecks is easy this month with Priest.
Lets see that Priest List please.
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Ive been beating Paladin regularly with Guardian druid. Putting me at 10 mana, turn 4, plays right into my hands.
It literally gets that card every game...
so true.
Board Flooding Druids
Paladins that just buff a minion (most boring deck in history)
Paladins who just flood the board (board spamming again)
Aggro Mages
Aggro Rogues
Aggro Warriors
Warlocks who destroy control or combo decks (so nobody plays them)
Priests same old sh*** with their res stuff. its just annoying and pure cancer to play against
Hunter go face
DH I dont even see them anymore
Even if u find a deck u enjoy playing. U cant because of the above mentioned cancer decks to play against.
I have played since day 1 and never have I not enjoyed this game as I am doing it right now. Its the worst state its ever been.
This took me to legend this month:
Against Rogues keep taunt and cheap AOE and healing card (same for Hunters and Demon Hunters),
Against Druids keep cheap AOEs and against Pallys keep 9 mana AOEs and other AOEs. Against control Warlocks the only way to win is to copy paste their 5 mana legendary shuffle 3 cards with Soul Mirror and then ressurect it few times (but it works surprisingly well). If you can't copy paste dont use any card draw during whole match. It is pretty hard to master Priest to be honest, so just copy that deck is not enough I believe.
### Big
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
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# 2x (1) Renew
# 2x (2) Insight
# 1x (2) Penance
# 1x (2) Shadow Word: Death
# 2x (3) Breath of the Infinite
# 2x (3) Hysteria
# 2x (3) Palm Reading
# 1x (4) Archmage Vargoth
# 1x (4) Holy Nova
# 2x (5) Convincing Infiltrator
# 2x (6) Khartut Defender
# 1x (7) Soul Mirror
# 1x (8) Catrina Muerte
# 2x (8) Idol of Y'Shaarj
# 2x (9) Blood of G'huun
# 2x (9) Mass Resurrection
# 2x (9) Plague of Death
# 1x (10) C'Thun, the Shattered
# 1x (10) Scrapyard Colossus
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Far from agreeing with OP (this kind of thread is pretty pointless rly), but I wanted to point out this is indeed a very strange meta. I have not seen a SINGLE Cheese Pally or Token Druid so far at legend this month, all I see is Aggro Rogue, OTK DK and Mozaki Mage non-stop.
My guess is that people at legend are so tired of the current meta they are not rly playing the best decks anymore, just what they think is fun. I dont see another explanation for OTK DK and Mozaki Mage, these decks are hilariously bad, but flashy af when they work so people play them anyway.
sad that u have to grind to pointless legend to enjoy a game.
The game is way, way too fast right now. It is all hyper aggro or brutal stalling decks. The latter are designed to counter the aggro.
Aggro Rogue and Burn Mage / Mozaki Mage can kill you very quickly. I've been killed by Rogue on turn 5. I never had a chance. Nothing I did mattered.
Ramp Paladin is stupid, and if they get their combo off on turn 4 or 5, it can also end games. Zoolock with a strong start is very oppressive too. Oh, and there's Gibberling druid, which has killed me on turn 3.
On the other side of the ledger you face the the decks that make you go MALD. Priest, Control / ETC Warrior, and Libram Paladin.
How many "normal" decks that just do reasonable things every turn exist?
I've heard quite a few streamers complain about the state of the game now. It's not just the OP.
If you want to climb fast try weapon rogue, its good and fast deck and not requires any Legendary card,
Try the list by MeatiHS (on his twitter) he got rank 1 legend.
- I agree that token druid is very strong (I climbed to legend with it and had very high win rate),
- Ramp Paladin is strong but sometime they don't draw the early cheat,
At least the meta is diverse and you have some options (if you have the cards), there are several good archetypes. all classes see some play.
DH and face hunter are less oppressive, the fast decks will always shape the meta, Blizzard knows to stop aggro from being OP since otherwise it wont be able to sell the expensive legendary cards :)
Ok, I'm sorry, I just took Illucia Priest to #65. It is the most passive deck in the history of Hearthstone, and I played DMH warrior.
Aggro ain't all that.
Just so we're clear, no, not rez priest with an Illucia. I'm talking Illucia, C'thun, and Galakrond, and that is it.
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so go play MTG lol
My boss installed an employee monitoring software so I stopped playing at work. Feels like lost nothing
I dunno.. I got legend previous month without even trying. Now I'm tier 1 without even trying.. games are pretty easy when every opponent is copy of another (kingsbane, even pally, secret mage, highlander warlock)
I remade my highlander warlock to disruptive gameplay without typical bloodreaver gul'dan, mal'ganis etc. and I'm having super fun.
I'm controlling game so hard I can even use Lord Jaraxxus... OBLIVION !!! (will change him to dragonqueen alexzandra later but that is best emotion in this game. period.)