Really, what is the sense of making a free class, with free cards that beats the shit of all other classes? I play since Naxxramas and this is the darkest times i ever seen in this game, even with Sac Pac deck, it's quite possible to lose to DH.
And the worst part is this joke news that ONE OR TWO cards are getting nerfed
Thanks, in all these years i never created an account here, was just checking the news, but now i am really done with all this, you guys have no respect for the community
While I think you are being somewhat emotional here I won’t deny this has been the worst experience of my time paying this game in 4 years. Ashes of Outland was like being locked in music festival outhouse for a week with the festival going strong outside. Just a massive pile of human feces on every conceivable level.
When you make an account just to whine to random strangers on the internet it is hard for anyone to have any respect for you, let alone Blizzard devs who aren't even reading this forum
I have to say that the first week of Ashes has been the least enjoyable launch since I started playing the game 5 years ago. DH single handily sapped all the joy from the game during what, over the last few years, has been the best time to play HS: just after rotation with a new expansion. Like most people, I usually find myself playing more HS and wanting to play more when things are fresh and people are trying stuff out to see what works. This time I’ve hardly played since the second day. The power level of DH is so over the top that a monkey could chuck 30 cards together and probably hit legend. It’s just not fun. Now I don’t mind losing, that isn’t the issue but when you have absolutely zero chance with 7 of the 10 classes then what’s the point?
hopefully these nerfs will do something. I get that Sac Pact is an issue but it’s one If the very few things that’s keeping DH in check right now. Unless there are big changes to DH cards I don’t see the point of hitting Sac Pact right now.
"even with Sac Pac deck, it's quite possible to lose to DH."
Things like draw the right cards in the right moment, or make the right play for example holding a removal for later or an key minion etc are things u have to consider. U cant just pick a Deck and say hey this is a counter i am supposed to win 100% of my games against it.
Im not a Fan of DH myself i made 3 games with it to finish a quest thats it. But DH got nerfed early on and since then its not op but still strong and other cards are gettin changed in near future, also other cards that seems more problematic. So Blizz is adressing this problem a lot faster than they did in the past. Wait 2 Weeks if those changes doesnt make u happy then switch the game its not that hard, there are plenty of okayish or good options to hs.
Now this Thread accomplish nothing. No Blizzardmember will see this and none of us here is in the power to make changes ur adressing, so the only conclusion must be that ur are salty cuz u lost against DH with ur Gala Warlock and for this there is a own thread.
This just happened - I am at level 5 diamond with 3 stars. I win and expect to move on to level 4, 1 star. Then they show the message - you cannot lose stars at this level, and I stay level 5, 3 stars, nothing changes after the restart and when I lose the next game I move to level 5, 2 stars. Incredible!
When you make an account just to whine to random strangers on the internet it is hard for anyone to have any respect for you, let alone Blizzard devs who aren't even reading this forum
yes, people who are so frustrated with the poor gaming experience that they take the time to make an account to express their discontent should be criticized for doing so then dismissed. With that excellent attitude Blizzard can continue to put out excellent product like the DH class and Ashes of Outland.
AT 20 HP with 2 taunts on board i was killed and it wasn't even the OTK deck. Their card draw i busted and they can remove your board while developing their own. There is nothing you can do sometimes to beat them and that is the problem. ZERO interaction.
One thing I don't understand is people highlighting the deck is mostly free (it is not, it requires at least a Legendary to craft - some variants require two - and some rares. Maiev is a staple too. GOOD, not DECENT, still costs dust). Such posts indirectly indicate that if the deck costed shit ton of dust, everything would be fine - people whine about pay to win, but then complain, when something winning is actually cheap. Hilarious.
Now DH is a strong deck - agreed. But after nerfs it's not on the top anymore. Is it a top tier? Yes. Does it smash entire meta? By any means NO. It's just another deck that was introduced to join the top tables.
Why do people complain about everything, what is GOOD? You do realize that if you nerfed literally all top 10 decks in the meta, new top 10 would arise and you would complain about them too?
DH is in a place, where it is ONE OF the best decks of the format, but not the best and thus - by default - not oppressive. What exactly logical reasoning is there behind making it worse apart from "I invested 17k dust in my deck and now I am beaten by a deck which is mostly free!"?
Blizzard team have always been a joke. They make cheap cards too powerful, favoring newbie players. Epic and legendary cards should be way more powerful compared to rare and common.
Really, what is the sense of making a free class, with free cards that beats the shit of all other classes? I play since Naxxramas and this is the darkest times i ever seen in this game, even with Sac Pac deck, it's quite possible to lose to DH.
And the worst part is this joke news that ONE OR TWO cards are getting nerfed
Thanks, in all these years i never created an account here, was just checking the news, but now i am really done with all this, you guys have no respect for the community
chill dude or simply grow up. this is a digital game. How do you cope with real life troubles if you can not deal with the fact DH is a strong class in HS?
DH don't have a hero card or a prime minion, is very vulnerably to freeze effects and classes with good healing.
Before nerfs I agree was OP but after is just a strong class now.
Instead nerf DH again some buffs for paladin, warrior and mage will be welcome.
Agree. Just don't think mage needs a buff since it has 2 powerful archetypes that are competitive against most of the meta.
But agree on buffing paladin and warrior. Even shaman got out of pit of thrash with Totem and Galakrond Evolve decks. Although not fan of the warrior I would see every class represented with decent and competitive decks.
I don’t really like blizzard. They were always a joke to me and this is not just about hearthstone .Dh is still powerful even after nerf I’m afraid that nerfing sac pact will make DH go berserk again.
Even though I agree with you , it’s still pretty pathetic to make a fake account just to seek attention to hate blizzard
As much as I despise the way Blizzard is being run nowadays, I can't say they're being unprofessional. Maybe disrespectful with the whole Warcraft 3 nonsense but not unprofessional.
Really, what is the sense of making a free class, with free cards that beats the shit of all other classes? I play since Naxxramas and this is the darkest times i ever seen in this game, even with Sac Pac deck, it's quite possible to lose to DH.
And the worst part is this joke news that ONE OR TWO cards are getting nerfed
Thanks, in all these years i never created an account here, was just checking the news, but now i am really done with all this, you guys have no respect for the community
While I think you are being somewhat emotional here I won’t deny this has been the worst experience of my time paying this game in 4 years. Ashes of Outland was like being locked in music festival outhouse for a week with the festival going strong outside. Just a massive pile of human feces on every conceivable level.
When you make an account just to whine to random strangers on the internet it is hard for anyone to have any respect for you, let alone Blizzard devs who aren't even reading this forum
Report and move on.
I have to say that the first week of Ashes has been the least enjoyable launch since I started playing the game 5 years ago. DH single handily sapped all the joy from the game during what, over the last few years, has been the best time to play HS: just after rotation with a new expansion. Like most people, I usually find myself playing more HS and wanting to play more when things are fresh and people are trying stuff out to see what works. This time I’ve hardly played since the second day. The power level of DH is so over the top that a monkey could chuck 30 cards together and probably hit legend. It’s just not fun. Now I don’t mind losing, that isn’t the issue but when you have absolutely zero chance with 7 of the 10 classes then what’s the point?
hopefully these nerfs will do something. I get that Sac Pact is an issue but it’s one If the very few things that’s keeping DH in check right now. Unless there are big changes to DH cards I don’t see the point of hitting Sac Pact right now.
Missing lethal since June 2015.
"even with Sac Pac deck, it's quite possible to lose to DH."
Things like draw the right cards in the right moment, or make the right play for example holding a removal for later or an key minion etc are things u have to consider. U cant just pick a Deck and say hey this is a counter i am supposed to win 100% of my games against it.
Im not a Fan of DH myself i made 3 games with it to finish a quest thats it. But DH got nerfed early on and since then its not op but still strong and other cards are gettin changed in near future, also other cards that seems more problematic. So Blizz is adressing this problem a lot faster than they did in the past. Wait 2 Weeks if those changes doesnt make u happy then switch the game its not that hard, there are plenty of okayish or good options to hs.
Now this Thread accomplish nothing. No Blizzardmember will see this and none of us here is in the power to make changes ur adressing, so the only conclusion must be that ur are salty cuz u lost against DH with ur Gala Warlock and for this there is a own thread.
This just happened - I am at level 5 diamond with 3 stars. I win and expect to move on to level 4, 1 star. Then they show the message - you cannot lose stars at this level, and I stay level 5, 3 stars, nothing changes after the restart and when I lose the next game I move to level 5, 2 stars. Incredible!
I like the part where he ranted and even made a poll expecting people to agree with him but nobody did.
So, if i choose "yes" will you give me a torch and pitchfork then transport me to Blizzard HQ? If not, this changes nothing.
yes, people who are so frustrated with the poor gaming experience that they take the time to make an account to express their discontent should be criticized for doing so then dismissed. With that excellent attitude Blizzard can continue to put out excellent product like the DH class and Ashes of Outland.
DH don't have a hero card or a prime minion, is very vulnerably to freeze effects and classes with good healing.
Before nerfs I agree was OP but after is just a strong class now.
Instead nerf DH again some buffs for paladin, warrior and mage will be welcome.
Its a shame as the expansion is great besides DH.
AT 20 HP with 2 taunts on board i was killed and it wasn't even the OTK deck. Their card draw i busted and they can remove your board while developing their own. There is nothing you can do sometimes to beat them and that is the problem. ZERO interaction.
One thing I don't understand is people highlighting the deck is mostly free (it is not, it requires at least a Legendary to craft - some variants require two - and some rares. Maiev is a staple too. GOOD, not DECENT, still costs dust). Such posts indirectly indicate that if the deck costed shit ton of dust, everything would be fine - people whine about pay to win, but then complain, when something winning is actually cheap. Hilarious.
Now DH is a strong deck - agreed. But after nerfs it's not on the top anymore. Is it a top tier? Yes. Does it smash entire meta? By any means NO. It's just another deck that was introduced to join the top tables.
Why do people complain about everything, what is GOOD? You do realize that if you nerfed literally all top 10 decks in the meta, new top 10 would arise and you would complain about them too?
DH is in a place, where it is ONE OF the best decks of the format, but not the best and thus - by default - not oppressive. What exactly logical reasoning is there behind making it worse apart from "I invested 17k dust in my deck and now I am beaten by a deck which is mostly free!"?
Blizzard team have always been a joke. They make cheap cards too powerful, favoring newbie players. Epic and legendary cards should be way more powerful compared to rare and common.
chill dude or simply grow up. this is a digital game. How do you cope with real life troubles if you can not deal with the fact DH is a strong class in HS?
How much percentage is needed to change your mind because right now "Yes" is winning?
Agree. Just don't think mage needs a buff since it has 2 powerful archetypes that are competitive against most of the meta.
But agree on buffing paladin and warrior. Even shaman got out of pit of thrash with Totem and Galakrond Evolve decks. Although not fan of the warrior I would see every class represented with decent and competitive decks.
I don’t really like blizzard. They were always a joke to me and this is not just about hearthstone .Dh is still powerful even after nerf I’m afraid that nerfing sac pact will make DH go berserk again.
Even though I agree with you , it’s still pretty pathetic to make a fake account just to seek attention to hate blizzard
Yeah, Blizzard is a joke, but don't worry OP, one day I swear I will be the owner of this company and fire around 90% of its employees. :P
As much as I despise the way Blizzard is being run nowadays, I can't say they're being unprofessional. Maybe disrespectful with the whole Warcraft 3 nonsense but not unprofessional.