I only need to craft the quest and I can make a full deck list. I'm curious because streamers and such are saying it's a real powerful deck but the over all win rate is rather low on HSReplay. I usually play hunter but Shaman is my 2nd class and I need those 500 wins lol. Any thoughts on Quest Shaman in the current meta?
I only need to craft the quest and I can make a full deck list. I'm curious because streamers and such are saying it's a real powerful deck but the over all win rate is rather low on HSReplay. I usually play hunter but Shaman is my 2nd class and I need those 500 wins lol. Any thoughts on Quest Shaman in the current meta?
At the end of the day, only you can really answer that question. If it looks fun to you, you should give it a go, for sure. It's not the best deck out there, but it certainly is still strong, and can win pretty well.
The worst matchups are usually the mirror (for me), because it's just irritating and the whole game is just a swing-fest. But others might enjoy that. :-)
True. I am currently playing highlander hunter but been really wanting to play a viable Shaman deck that isn't murloc shaman. I was watching Thijs play Quest shaman and it seemed pretty fun. The thing is, I have a golden Paladin quest that I can dust for the shaman quest. Hm
Yes it’s a very fun deck and you can climb as high as you want with it. There are some complicated turns with it (as in it’s a tough deck to master but quite rewarding when you do)
Control warrior absolutely demolishes this deck. (I am ,lately, a quest shaman player btw, frustrated by control warriors) It has every answer to your every play. You can't be aggressive enough to kill it fast. You can't be controly enough to win the game. In the end frustrating rushing mechs or archivist elysiana wins the game for the warrior. Unless you use it too then shudderwock to outfatigue warrior for second elysiana effect. Other than that, pretty solid deck against q pally, murloc pally, murloc shammy, any mage, rogue, hunter etc.
Control warrior absolutely demolishes this deck. (I am ,lately, a quest shaman player btw, frustrated by control warriors) It has every answer to your every play. You can't be aggressive enough to kill it fast. You can't be controly enough to win the game. In the end frustrating rushing mechs or archivist elysiana wins the game for the warrior. Unless you use it too then shudderwock to outfatigue warrior for second elysiana effect. Other than that, pretty solid deck against q pally, murloc pally, murloc shammy, any mage, rogue, hunter etc.
Most expert players rate the matchup with CW as being favorable for the Shaman. Those that think CW is favored recognize that it is at best a small edge.
This is a case of ignoring stats on the masses, who can't play to save their lives.
Control warrior absolutely demolishes this deck. (I am ,lately, a quest shaman player btw, frustrated by control warriors) It has every answer to your every play. You can't be aggressive enough to kill it fast. You can't be controly enough to win the game. In the end frustrating rushing mechs or archivist elysiana wins the game for the warrior. Unless you use it too then shudderwock to outfatigue warrior for second elysiana effect. Other than that, pretty solid deck against q pally, murloc pally, murloc shammy, any mage, rogue, hunter etc.
I just beat a CW with Quest Shaman. If you play correctly the match should be favourable for the shaman. What you need to do is either A) Bounce Lifedrinker as much as possible for Shudderwok or B) Bounce as many Kobalds and Wasps and just go face. Its way too much burn! But you do have to realize you are on a time limit with CW's because once they drop Boom things get a little harder.
According to HSReplay, Quest Shaman is a low tier-2 deck, with bad matchups against most of the decks that are above him in the list.
I think that's very misleading. It's one of the most played decks right now which means that there are a lot playing this deck, who don't know yet how to play it, making its winrate lower than what actually is. I played Quest Shaman last season and easily reached legend once I learned how to play with it/what to mulligan(for example against paladin you need sandstorm elemental and lackeys to reach asap double battlecry hero power to clear their board, and you BogSlosher only this card in this matchup - against control warrior you try to do the quest with draw cards and have Barista Lynchen on lackey generator cards ,or burn cards to apply pressure wave after wave). This season I am trying to reach legend with Rogue, it's more probable to uninstall HS than doing it :P
It's a powerful deck, I don't play it but I don't mind playing against it - seems less auto-pilot than quest druid or paladin even if it is more powerful.
Deck is tier 1 sure, but maybe bottom tier 1 because the lists now are still optimizing.
Don't be fooled, the Control Warrior MU is very good for the Shaman, as CW can only use a limited number of removals against the hordes of lackeys. You will need Barista Lynchen and value up your Bog Slosher. It also does good against Murloc Paladin and Murloc Shaman decks.
You can also swap one Giggling Inventor for a Walking Fountain to raise your % against other aggro decks that burst from hand such as Rogue.
Bad MUs are Combo Priest, Mage and sometimes Highlander Hunter if you dont play focused around secrets or Quest Druid if they get lucky with King Phaoris.
Control warrior absolutely demolishes this deck. (I am ,lately, a quest shaman player btw, frustrated by control warriors) It has every answer to your every play. You can't be aggressive enough to kill it fast. You can't be controly enough to win the game. In the end frustrating rushing mechs or archivist elysiana wins the game for the warrior. Unless you use it too then shudderwock to outfatigue warrior for second elysiana effect. Other than that, pretty solid deck against q pally, murloc pally, murloc shammy, any mage, rogue, hunter etc.
Most expert players rate the matchup with CW as being favorable for the Shaman. Those that think CW is favored recognize that it is at best a small edge.
This is a case of ignoring stats on the masses, who can't play to save their lives.
Maybe I'm missing something, but this certainly doesn't seem to be the case from the stats below. Not saying the "experts" (which ones, out of interest?) are "wrong", but statistically, you are really unfavoured against CW. I realise you just said to ignore the stats - but I don't think that's a viable reasoning / way of lookig at it. Maybe you're favoured if you are in the top 0.1% of the playerbase who are naturally going to be better than the lower-skilled players who are playing CW...?
There are different versions of quest Shaman which might be why it has a lower winrate on HS Replay. I tried to do a control/quest Shaman, but it just did not seem to work very well. I have opted for the version that runs Mutate. It has great synergy with Mogu Fleshshaper, which can give you an 8 cost minion on the board on turn 3/4 while killing one of your opponents minions. Mutate also works well with Swampqueen Hagatha, Former Champ, and Giggling Inventor. Plus the lackey's that evolve the minions have great synergy with these cards also.
Control warrior absolutely demolishes this deck. (I am ,lately, a quest shaman player btw, frustrated by control warriors) It has every answer to your every play. You can't be aggressive enough to kill it fast. You can't be controly enough to win the game. In the end frustrating rushing mechs or archivist elysiana wins the game for the warrior. Unless you use it too then shudderwock to outfatigue warrior for second elysiana effect. Other than that, pretty solid deck against q pally, murloc pally, murloc shammy, any mage, rogue, hunter etc.
Most expert players rate the matchup with CW as being favorable for the Shaman. Those that think CW is favored recognize that it is at best a small edge.
This is a case of ignoring stats on the masses, who can't play to save their lives.
Maybe I'm missing something, but this certainly doesn't seem to be the case from the stats below. Not saying the "experts" (which ones, out of interest?) are "wrong", but statistically, you are really unfavoured against CW. I realise you just said to ignore the stats - but I don't think that's a viable reasoning / way of lookig at it. Maybe you're favoured if you are in the top 0.1% of the playerbase who are naturally going to be better than the lower-skilled players who are playing CW...?
Apply the filters. At Legend to 5, Shaman goes up to 43.1%. At Legend Only, it hits 46.5%. See the trend?
And this is averaging all builds of Quest Shaman. Most of which are suboptimal.
Thijs was speaking of this on a recent YT VOD. As he was crushing his helpless CW opponent.
I only need to craft the quest and I can make a full deck list. I'm curious because streamers and such are saying it's a real powerful deck but the over all win rate is rather low on HSReplay. I usually play hunter but Shaman is my 2nd class and I need those 500 wins lol. Any thoughts on Quest Shaman in the current meta?
Hi my dood.
Sure, Quest Shaman is solid T1 deck.
No its cancer
Hi let's see deck your thinking off
At the end of the day, only you can really answer that question.
If it looks fun to you, you should give it a go, for sure.
It's not the best deck out there, but it certainly is still strong, and can win pretty well.
The worst matchups are usually the mirror (for me), because it's just irritating and the whole game is just a swing-fest.
But others might enjoy that. :-)
Why do you need those 500 wins?
True. I am currently playing highlander hunter but been really wanting to play a viable Shaman deck that isn't murloc shaman. I was watching Thijs play Quest shaman and it seemed pretty fun. The thing is, I have a golden Paladin quest that I can dust for the shaman quest. Hm
Hi my dood.
yes, quest shaman is a tier 1 deck.
lol @ hsreplay btw
Lol I guess hsreplay is not too reliable for finding out the power of decks? :(
Hi my dood.
Yes it’s a very fun deck and you can climb as high as you want with it. There are some complicated turns with it (as in it’s a tough deck to master but quite rewarding when you do)
Control warrior absolutely demolishes this deck. (I am ,lately, a quest shaman player btw, frustrated by control warriors) It has every answer to your every play. You can't be aggressive enough to kill it fast. You can't be controly enough to win the game. In the end frustrating rushing mechs or archivist elysiana wins the game for the warrior. Unless you use it too then shudderwock to outfatigue warrior for second elysiana effect. Other than that, pretty solid deck against q pally, murloc pally, murloc shammy, any mage, rogue, hunter etc.
Most expert players rate the matchup with CW as being favorable for the Shaman. Those that think CW is favored recognize that it is at best a small edge.
This is a case of ignoring stats on the masses, who can't play to save their lives.
I just beat a CW with Quest Shaman. If you play correctly the match should be favourable for the shaman. What you need to do is either A) Bounce Lifedrinker as much as possible for Shudderwok or B) Bounce as many Kobalds and Wasps and just go face. Its way too much burn! But you do have to realize you are on a time limit with CW's because once they drop Boom things get a little harder.
According to HSReplay, Quest Shaman is a low tier-2 deck, with bad matchups against most of the decks that are above him in the list.
I think that's very misleading. It's one of the most played decks right now which means that there are a lot playing this deck, who don't know yet how to play it, making its winrate lower than what actually is. I played Quest Shaman last season and easily reached legend once I learned how to play with it/what to mulligan(for example against paladin you need sandstorm elemental and lackeys to reach asap double battlecry hero power to clear their board, and you BogSlosher only this card in this matchup - against control warrior you try to do the quest with draw cards and have Barista Lynchen on lackey generator cards ,or burn cards to apply pressure wave after wave). This season I am trying to reach legend with Rogue, it's more probable to uninstall HS than doing it :P
It's a powerful deck, I don't play it but I don't mind playing against it - seems less auto-pilot than quest druid or paladin even if it is more powerful.
Deck is tier 1 sure, but maybe bottom tier 1 because the lists now are still optimizing.
Don't be fooled, the Control Warrior MU is very good for the Shaman, as CW can only use a limited number of removals against the hordes of lackeys. You will need Barista Lynchen and value up your Bog Slosher. It also does good against Murloc Paladin and Murloc Shaman decks.
You can also swap one Giggling Inventor for a Walking Fountain to raise your % against other aggro decks that burst from hand such as Rogue.
Bad MUs are Combo Priest, Mage and sometimes Highlander Hunter if you dont play focused around secrets or Quest Druid if they get lucky with King Phaoris.
Maybe I'm missing something, but this certainly doesn't seem to be the case from the stats below.
Not saying the "experts" (which ones, out of interest?) are "wrong", but statistically, you are really unfavoured against CW.
I realise you just said to ignore the stats - but I don't think that's a viable reasoning / way of lookig at it.
Maybe you're favoured if you are in the top 0.1% of the playerbase who are naturally going to be better than the lower-skilled players who are playing CW...?
There are different versions of quest Shaman which might be why it has a lower winrate on HS Replay. I tried to do a control/quest Shaman, but it just did not seem to work very well. I have opted for the version that runs Mutate. It has great synergy with Mogu Fleshshaper, which can give you an 8 cost minion on the board on turn 3/4 while killing one of your opponents minions. Mutate also works well with Swampqueen Hagatha, Former Champ, and Giggling Inventor. Plus the lackey's that evolve the minions have great synergy with these cards also.
Apply the filters. At Legend to 5, Shaman goes up to 43.1%. At Legend Only, it hits 46.5%. See the trend?
And this is averaging all builds of Quest Shaman. Most of which are suboptimal.
Thijs was speaking of this on a recent YT VOD. As he was crushing his helpless CW opponent.
Even more importantly, the deck is just FUN to play. Craft it, play it, enjoy it.
Ibn Fahd.