I don think there's an issue here since there's tons of crappy unplayable legendaries. Jaraxxus has already been crap for a while now (ever since guldan came out), this is just the final nail in the coffin for it.
Blizzard should do this, but hey, who cares about Warlock anyway? Do yourself a favor and forget about this class. After 5 years of maining Warlock, I gave up on him and now I'm in the Druid fan club. And you know what? My experience with HS has improved by 200%, so I highly recommend it!
I've been on a druid strike since jades, god that shit still makes me feel furious. I just dust all, and any druid cards I open. Free dust in a way. 😂
I have to agree. It's really lame that it can discover that especially considering how intriguing games could be when J-rizzle was fetched from random sources (eg bazaar mugger). It's really bad for new players too. Lets say you bought the welcome bundle and got him then can barely play him when you need to cuz all the damn genies everywhere.
I actually have a wild quest discard warrior that used him surprisingly well (rank 3 highest taken it) but now it's a liability since Zeph is in all kinds of decks as a late game answer...
Maybe the Warlock should try not to play Jaraxxus when they know the opponent is a singleton deck? Just a thought.
Just because you have it in your deck doesn't mean you have to play it. It certainly doesn't mean you have an absolute god-given right to play it and win because you played it.
If you're dumb enough to play into this interaction, you deserve to lose.
What you really need is a time machine, then. Jaraxxus was everywhere for the first couple of years of the game.
When my opponent is a singleton deck ? man did you played some games in this exp? every deck has zephyris, ofc against aggro decks they are gonna play zephyris before in the vast majority of the cases, but it doesn't matter at all because... come one u got 4k post you can make it Should i play jaraxxus after zephyris against control deck ? control vs control (not at rank 19 maybe) are gonna use it late game, and with 90% bounce possibilities, so jaraxxus is really unplayable, and "if you are dumb enough to think otherwise, you don't deserve jaraxxus in your collection".
" What you really need is a time machine, then. Jaraxxus was everywhere for the first couple of years of the game." Man everywhere where ?(and also hs has been released from a couple of years, don't exaggerate yourself) not everyone onwed a control warlock deck in classic hs, and in gvg he already lost a lot of power (aggro-midrange hunter/ fon druid/ dr boom meta).
The main problem with Jaraxxus is that nowadays 15 life are nothing, so even if you are changing the interaction I don't see a lot of play for this card. It was also not played during the Dalaran expansion, where Zephrys didn't exist and Gul'dan was gone already. It's just not good enough anymore.
Jaraxxus is out of meta because it sucks not because of Sac Pact or Zephrys.
sad but true
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Maybe the Warlock should try not to play Jaraxxus when they know the opponent is a singleton deck? Just a thought.
Just because you have it in your deck doesn't mean you have to play it. It certainly doesn't mean you have an absolute god-given right to play it and win because you played it.
If you're dumb enough to play into this interaction, you deserve to lose.
What you really need is a time machine, then. Jaraxxus was everywhere for the first couple of years of the game.
When my opponent is a singleton deck ? man did you played some games in this exp? every deck has zephyris, ofc against aggro decks they are gonna play zephyris before in the vast majority of the cases, but it doesn't matter at all because... come one u got 4k post you can make it Should i play jaraxxus after zephyris against control deck ? control vs control (not at rank 19 maybe) are gonna use it late game, and with 90% bounce possibilities, so jaraxxus is really unplayable, and "if you are dumb enough to think otherwise, you don't deserve jaraxxus in your collection".
" What you really need is a time machine, then. Jaraxxus was everywhere for the first couple of years of the game." Man everywhere where ?(and also hs has been released from a couple of years, don't exaggerate yourself) not everyone onwed a control warlock deck in classic hs, and in gvg he already lost a lot of power (aggro-midrange hunter/ fon druid/ dr boom meta).
LOL you're the one trying to play Jaraxxus in 2019, and you're treating me like I'M the dumb one?
And it's been FIVE years. That is more than a couple. A couple is two.
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They should remove the interaction period, it never should have existed in the first place for so many reasons. It's highly inconsistent with the way spells work in this game. Since when would a minion target spell work on somebodies hero? I get they it was for lolz originally but in all seriousness it's wrong. I don't care what your opinion is of Jaxx as far as viability in the meta, the point stands.
I have always heard about this but I always thought it was just a stupid meme joke until now. Makes just as much sense as having Morgl dying to hungry crab.
Jaraxxus is out of meta because it sucks not because of Sac Pact or Zephrys.
Jaraxxus is a great card and always see play in control warlock until...
1- Release the most busted, insanely broken hero card of all, the card can't be used with Jaraxxus and he is crap in comparison.
2- When finally the DK rotates and Jaraxxus can be played again they release a very popular neutral highlander card can deny any chance of he see play again, remove this stupid interaction and Jaraxxus can have a place in the meta, sure will be niche and don't will be include in every warlock deck but can be played.
The interaction is funny but inconsistent. Other tribe cards do not affect heroes such as hungry crab. Neither does any demon effect cards like Malganis or the 3 mana neutral minion that can silence a demon. Would be cool if Jaraxxus hero was frozen and you can silence him to attack :)
To those saying Jaraxxus still wouldn't see play right now if they removed the interaction, you're right. I mean, it's hard to know for sure, metas are unpredictable, but I don't think controlock or Jaraxxus would make it in the current. Too slow against druid, murloc pally, and priest, the 15 cap sucks vs shaman, hunter, rogue, and holy wrath, and I'm not even sure it beats Dr. Boom. That being said, who cares? Stupid things are stupid and should be removed because they're stupid. No two cards, in any ccg, should have a relationship where if one is played in response to the other it wins the game instantly and without exceptions. That's idiotic, and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. Especially when the card on the receiving end is one of the coolest cards ever printed.
Sac Pact should have never worked on a hero in the first place. That's just stupid and an obscene way for rogues to beat warlock.
Thing is, its not a hero card. Its a battlecry minion.
If it was pulled out via dirty rat or other means, I agree it is a minion and sac pact should work. Once the battlecry triggers, that character is a hero, which cannot be targeted by minion only spells like siphon soul. Why should sac pact be an exception
Jaraxxus is out of meta because it sucks not because of Sac Pact or Zephrys.
Jaraxxus is a great card and always see play in control warlock until...
1- Release the most busted, insanely broken hero card of all, the card can't be used with Jaraxxus and he is crap in comparison.
2- When finally the DK rotates and Jaraxxus can be played again they release a very popular neutral highlander card can deny any chance of he see play again, remove this stupid interaction and Jaraxxus can have a place in the meta, sure will be niche and don't will be include in every warlock deck but can be played.
Jaraxxus didn't see ANY play in RoS meta when there were no DKs or Zephrys.
Sac Pact should have never worked on a hero in the first place. That's just stupid and an obscene way for rogues to beat warlock.
Thing is, its not a hero card. Its a battlecry minion.
If it was pulled out via dirty rat or other means, I agree it is a minion and sac pact should work. Once the battlecry triggers, that character is a hero, which cannot be targeted by minion only spells like siphon soul. Why should sac pact be an exception
I guess its because he remains a 'demon'. I agree its a dumb interaction though.
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I don think there's an issue here since there's tons of crappy unplayable legendaries. Jaraxxus has already been crap for a while now (ever since guldan came out), this is just the final nail in the coffin for it.
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I've been on a druid strike since jades, god that shit still makes me feel furious. I just dust all, and any druid cards I open. Free dust in a way. 😂
This interaction should have never existed in the first place.
But since it is already here, removing it would cause an outrage.
I have to agree. It's really lame that it can discover that especially considering how intriguing games could be when J-rizzle was fetched from random sources (eg bazaar mugger). It's really bad for new players too. Lets say you bought the welcome bundle and got him then can barely play him when you need to cuz all the damn genies everywhere.
I actually have a wild quest discard warrior that used him surprisingly well (rank 3 highest taken it) but now it's a liability since Zeph is in all kinds of decks as a late game answer...
When my opponent is a singleton deck ? man did you played some games in this exp? every deck has zephyris, ofc against aggro decks they are gonna play zephyris before in the vast majority of the cases, but it doesn't matter at all because... come one u got 4k post you can make it
Should i play jaraxxus after zephyris against control deck ? control vs control (not at rank 19 maybe) are gonna use it late game, and with 90% bounce possibilities, so jaraxxus is really unplayable, and "if you are dumb enough to think otherwise, you don't deserve jaraxxus in your collection".
" What you really need is a time machine, then. Jaraxxus was everywhere for the first couple of years of the game."
Man everywhere where ?(and also hs has been released from a couple of years, don't exaggerate yourself) not everyone onwed a control warlock deck in classic hs, and in gvg he already lost a lot of power (aggro-midrange hunter/ fon druid/ dr boom meta).
The main problem with Jaraxxus is that nowadays 15 life are nothing, so even if you are changing the interaction I don't see a lot of play for this card. It was also not played during the Dalaran expansion, where Zephrys didn't exist and Gul'dan was gone already. It's just not good enough anymore.
Jaraxxus is out of meta because it sucks not because of Sac Pact or Zephrys.
sad but true
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LOL you're the one trying to play Jaraxxus in 2019, and you're treating me like I'M the dumb one?
And it's been FIVE years. That is more than a couple. A couple is two.
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They should remove the interaction period, it never should have existed in the first place for so many reasons. It's highly inconsistent with the way spells work in this game. Since when would a minion target spell work on somebodies hero? I get they it was for lolz originally but in all seriousness it's wrong. I don't care what your opinion is of Jaxx as far as viability in the meta, the point stands.
I have always heard about this but I always thought it was just a stupid meme joke until now. Makes just as much sense as having Morgl dying to hungry crab.
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It hardly ever happens and funny af when it does so leave it for lols
Next patch it's getting buffed it kill jaraxxus and the player irl aswel :-0
Jaraxxus is a great card and always see play in control warlock until...
1- Release the most busted, insanely broken hero card of all, the card can't be used with Jaraxxus and he is crap in comparison.
2- When finally the DK rotates and Jaraxxus can be played again they release a very popular neutral highlander card can deny any chance of he see play again, remove this stupid interaction and Jaraxxus can have a place in the meta, sure will be niche and don't will be include in every warlock deck but can be played.
The interaction is funny but inconsistent. Other tribe cards do not affect heroes such as hungry crab. Neither does any demon effect cards like Malganis or the 3 mana neutral minion that can silence a demon. Would be cool if Jaraxxus hero was frozen and you can silence him to attack :)
Thing is, its not a hero card. Its a battlecry minion.
To those saying Jaraxxus still wouldn't see play right now if they removed the interaction, you're right. I mean, it's hard to know for sure, metas are unpredictable, but I don't think controlock or Jaraxxus would make it in the current. Too slow against druid, murloc pally, and priest, the 15 cap sucks vs shaman, hunter, rogue, and holy wrath, and I'm not even sure it beats Dr. Boom. That being said, who cares? Stupid things are stupid and should be removed because they're stupid. No two cards, in any ccg, should have a relationship where if one is played in response to the other it wins the game instantly and without exceptions. That's idiotic, and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. Especially when the card on the receiving end is one of the coolest cards ever printed.
If it was pulled out via dirty rat or other means, I agree it is a minion and sac pact should work. Once the battlecry triggers, that character is a hero, which cannot be targeted by minion only spells like siphon soul. Why should sac pact be an exception
Jaraxxus didn't see ANY play in RoS meta when there were no DKs or Zephrys.
I guess its because he remains a 'demon'. I agree its a dumb interaction though.