If the revealed cards don't make my existing collection competitive with Tier 1 Cubelock, should I save my gold for the 2nd expansion later this year? I'm thinking I can just craft a couple cards that turn out to be useful, rather than waste gold on packs with useless cards and bad legendaries. Especially since as F2P I only play a few classes...a couple which are Tier 3.
Has anyone ever skipped an expansion? What has been your experience?
You never know which cards will define the meta with the next expansion. I can see not going all in on an expansion you feel is weak, but skipping it entirely will likely result in holes in your collection (especially for the first expansion of a new year). Remember these cards will be in standard longer than any other set outside of the evergreen classic/basic cards.
I don't think you'll be crippled too much simply by waiting a few weeks into the expansion and see how things are shaping up. Ungoro didn't give us much by way of legendaries, but had some nice cards of lower rarity. WW may be similar. If two or three weeks into the meta you feel that you can get away with the dozen or so free packs we'll get and a few judicious crafts, do so.
You can always spend what you've saved, you cant save what you've spent.
If you're skeptical, hold onto your resources for the first month so the meta has a chance to settle down. By that point it should be clear what you would need for decks you want to play.
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Shudderwock means driving a clown car in circles around your opponent while he swings his sword at you. Half the time he chops you and your car to pieces. The other half you park on his legs and 40 clowns come out one by one, trampling him to death.
You never know which cards will define the meta with the next expansion. I can see not going all in on an expansion you feel is weak, but skipping it entirely will likely result in holes in your collection (especially for the first expansion of a new year). Remember these cards will be in standard longer than any other set outside of the evergreen classic/basic cards.
Yeah I felt this expansion was going to be the most important and we'd get the most value out of these. It's hard to predict what will be buffed with expansions over the next 2 years.
I just wondered if it was better mathematically to open and dust vs just craft?
If the revealed cards don't make my existing collection competitive with Tier 1 Cubelock, should I save my gold for the 2nd expansion later this year? I'm thinking I can just craft a couple cards that turn out to be useful, rather than waste gold on packs with useless cards and bad legendaries. Especially since as F2P I only play a few classes...a couple which are Tier 3.
Has anyone ever skipped an expansion? What has been your experience?
"If I can't make my oppressive net deck win more..." -.-
I skipped MSG and returned with Un'Guro (bad mistake, should have skipped that as well, since I only play warlock). I bought like 20 packs just to get a few commons and a legendary and then went in on Un'Guro with 40-50 packs, like I usually do. I have over 10k gold, but buying packs is a waste when you can craft the few cards you truly need.
I currently don't play the game (stopped like 2 months ago after the meta was stale beyond my sanity) and currently, the new cards don't excite me very much, so maybe I skip that expansion as well and return with the expansion afterwards. That might change tho.
I skipped K&C, not spending gold on packs until AFTER the nerfs that we all knew we're coming. I think it is absolutely the right call I paid $$ for Knights despite knowing Jade was going to be cancerous and it's the closest I ever came to flat out deleting my Battle.net account so as to avoid even the temptation of giving Blizzard money again.
Top tier decks from now on are generally going to require a mix of epics and legendarides from across all active standard expansions. Lots of class epics and legendaries that are absolute requirements for a compettiive deck to work that will only work in that one deck.
....Unless its a designated (by blizzard) free-to-play deck, for example from last expansion - Spiteful priest. These decks will be designed to have a lower shelf-life than others, but will certainly be competitive for a time. Cards like Corridor Creeper and Patches happen when they are a little too keen on this.
This is not a cynical view, just analyse your collection, the decks and expansions cards came with, it's obvious. Force-fed, expensive deck recipes. Discovery and creativity in this game is rapidly turning into an illusion, even just after an expansion launch.
Anyway, the result of this, if you want to keep playing seriously - you will struggle if you skip entire expansions.
when TGT came out I correctly predicted that almost all the cards in it were worthless for my playstyle and a better approach was to craft the few that I needed. this was both aided by the fact I also played only viable control classes ; Mage, Warrior, Warlock and Priest at the time, so I didn't need to spread out too much for stuff like Mysterious Challenger and whatnot. I also took my time in waiting to see what comes up playable and just watched streamers of Kolento's caliber to get a good grasp on playability.
This turned out to be an excellent decision.
I started off as a F2P back at Naxx and it took forever to gather enough gold to get whole Naxx and whole BRM while also maintaining playable decks of Goblin and Gnomes. (which luckily featured a lot of crossover cards) skipping on Naxx and BRM really hurt my playable classes and overcoming that gap wasn't easy without crazy cards like Belcher, Loatheb, Emperor and Mad Scientist. while these are not expansions but adventures, I think it is comparable ; for both you need to spend the resource of Gold and the adventures had obvious jank cards like Maexxna that paid off in Dust, similar to pack buying except that you know the results.
Getting these adventures was almost crucial for my advancement up the ranks.
Un'goro was another tourist trap, basically. Warrior Taunt quest was everywhere in the first week or two... then it was gone. the quests flopped hard and people lost a lot of resources to hype and lost dreams. from this set I only crafted the Open the Waygate quest, but that's because I was and still am fascinated by Exodia Mage, and have no regrets. other people might tell you differently on their experience.
in short ; take your time, there's no hurry spending resources that you don't have. people are gonna get hyped as hell and spend everything trying to test every dumb deck, but all this trash will fall off in like 2 weeks and the real winners will surface. skipping expansions is possible, you might just need a card or two for now. later when more cards appear supporting various archetypes you might need to revisit, but that's then and not now.
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If the revealed cards don't make my existing collection competitive with Tier 1 Cubelock, should I save my gold for the 2nd expansion later this year? I'm thinking I can just craft a couple cards that turn out to be useful, rather than waste gold on packs with useless cards and bad legendaries. Especially since as F2P I only play a few classes...a couple which are Tier 3.
Has anyone ever skipped an expansion? What has been your experience?
I always spend what I have on release and then start saving for the next one
You never know which cards will define the meta with the next expansion. I can see not going all in on an expansion you feel is weak, but skipping it entirely will likely result in holes in your collection (especially for the first expansion of a new year). Remember these cards will be in standard longer than any other set outside of the evergreen classic/basic cards.
I don't think you'll be crippled too much simply by waiting a few weeks into the expansion and see how things are shaping up. Ungoro didn't give us much by way of legendaries, but had some nice cards of lower rarity. WW may be similar. If two or three weeks into the meta you feel that you can get away with the dozen or so free packs we'll get and a few judicious crafts, do so.
You can always spend what you've saved, you cant save what you've spent.
Idk man it’s a game and I do what I feel like. It’s different every expansion.
If you wanna be competitive craft the cards you need, get legend, and then what? Same game. Just the number on the bottom left changed.
If you're skeptical, hold onto your resources for the first month so the meta has a chance to settle down. By that point it should be clear what you would need for decks you want to play.
Shudderwock means driving a clown car in circles around your opponent while he swings his sword at you. Half the time he chops you and your car to pieces. The other half you park on his legs and 40 clowns come out one by one, trampling him to death.
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I skipped MSG and returned with Un'Guro (bad mistake, should have skipped that as well, since I only play warlock). I bought like 20 packs just to get a few commons and a legendary and then went in on Un'Guro with 40-50 packs, like I usually do. I have over 10k gold, but buying packs is a waste when you can craft the few cards you truly need.
I currently don't play the game (stopped like 2 months ago after the meta was stale beyond my sanity) and currently, the new cards don't excite me very much, so maybe I skip that expansion as well and return with the expansion afterwards. That might change tho.
Skip everything,control warlock is going to stay for a long time to come...
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I skipped K&C, not spending gold on packs until AFTER the nerfs that we all knew we're coming. I think it is absolutely the right call I paid $$ for Knights despite knowing Jade was going to be cancerous and it's the closest I ever came to flat out deleting my Battle.net account so as to avoid even the temptation of giving Blizzard money again.
Wow, some amazing stories and interesting approaches on here.
I guess part of me is still traumatized from unpacking King Togwaggle and Temporus.
i remember hearing this during the patron meta
I start saving for the next expansion as soon as it’s announced but sometimes earlier if there’s nothing I want from the other sets.
Top tier decks from now on are generally going to require a mix of epics and legendarides from across all active standard expansions. Lots of class epics and legendaries that are absolute requirements for a compettiive deck to work that will only work in that one deck.
....Unless its a designated (by blizzard) free-to-play deck, for example from last expansion - Spiteful priest. These decks will be designed to have a lower shelf-life than others, but will certainly be competitive for a time. Cards like Corridor Creeper and Patches happen when they are a little too keen on this.
This is not a cynical view, just analyse your collection, the decks and expansions cards came with, it's obvious. Force-fed, expensive deck recipes. Discovery and creativity in this game is rapidly turning into an illusion, even just after an expansion launch.
Anyway, the result of this, if you want to keep playing seriously - you will struggle if you skip entire expansions.
I skipped WotOG and MSG. Don't really feel like I missed anything.
when TGT came out I correctly predicted that almost all the cards in it were worthless for my playstyle and a better approach was to craft the few that I needed. this was both aided by the fact I also played only viable control classes ; Mage, Warrior, Warlock and Priest at the time, so I didn't need to spread out too much for stuff like Mysterious Challenger and whatnot. I also took my time in waiting to see what comes up playable and just watched streamers of Kolento's caliber to get a good grasp on playability.
This turned out to be an excellent decision.
I started off as a F2P back at Naxx and it took forever to gather enough gold to get whole Naxx and whole BRM while also maintaining playable decks of Goblin and Gnomes. (which luckily featured a lot of crossover cards) skipping on Naxx and BRM really hurt my playable classes and overcoming that gap wasn't easy without crazy cards like Belcher, Loatheb, Emperor and Mad Scientist. while these are not expansions but adventures, I think it is comparable ; for both you need to spend the resource of Gold and the adventures had obvious jank cards like Maexxna that paid off in Dust, similar to pack buying except that you know the results.
Getting these adventures was almost crucial for my advancement up the ranks.
Un'goro was another tourist trap, basically. Warrior Taunt quest was everywhere in the first week or two... then it was gone. the quests flopped hard and people lost a lot of resources to hype and lost dreams. from this set I only crafted the Open the Waygate quest, but that's because I was and still am fascinated by Exodia Mage, and have no regrets. other people might tell you differently on their experience.
in short ; take your time, there's no hurry spending resources that you don't have. people are gonna get hyped as hell and spend everything trying to test every dumb deck, but all this trash will fall off in like 2 weeks and the real winners will surface. skipping expansions is possible, you might just need a card or two for now. later when more cards appear supporting various archetypes you might need to revisit, but that's then and not now.
''He traded sands for skins, skins for gold, gold for life. In the end, he traded life for sand.''
(.o.))~ ~(('o') (.o.))~