Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Nah, it still feels good to me. I play wild though, so there is slightly more deck variety. Seeing Reno priest change from a silly OTK deck to a value-oriented control deck is one of the nicest and most fun changes I've experienced.
Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Here is a clue in case you have missed it somehow. There will always be top decks. When Blizzard nerfs one deck another takes its place.
Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Here is a clue in case you have missed it somehow. There will always be top decks. When Blizzard nerfs one deck another takes its place.
You missed the point of the post - I'm not complaining about top decks, I'm pointing out that there are less decks than ever being played on the Standard ladder right now which has created a stale experience. And it surprised me because I thought the meta would shake up a bit more after the nerf. And no, I'm not a new player - even if I were, your argument doesn't invalidate new players' experiences with the game. I've found tons of veteran players are just as ignorant about the game as many new players.
The thing you have to realize is that nerfing 4 cards will never be as big of a shake up as releasing a new set, even if those 4 cards are the most broken cards ever designed (they weren't).
That said, I think I am pretty happy with the slight change in the meta. The game has become less "priest and warlock-stone" and pretty much every class, besides Warrior and Shaman, now have a tier 1 or tier 2 deck that can compete with the rest of the meta.
Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Here is a clue in case you have missed it somehow. There will always be top decks. When Blizzard nerfs one deck another takes its place.
You missed the point of the post - I'm not complaining about top decks, I'm pointing out that there are less decks than ever being played on the Standard ladder right now which has created a stale experience. And it surprised me because I thought the meta would shake up a bit more after the nerf. And no, I'm not a new player - even if I were, your argument doesn't invalidate new players' experiences with the game. I've found tons of veteran players are just as ignorant about the game as many new players.
You missed the point. Lets start with Ungoro, Quest Rouge was all over the place and the meta got boring and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Then came Jade Druid after Quest rouge was nerfed and Jade Druid was everywhere and the meta got boring and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Then Jade druid was nerfed and Highlander took over and it got boring .and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Now we have a few top decks and people are starting to get bored and soon there will be calls for a nerf. When those decks are nerfed something else will takes its place etc, etc, etc. That you have been playing a long time and have not seen this pattern is simply amazing.
I hate seeing tempo rogue get killed in the nerf process. Tried it the other day and I was getting killed by aggro, and not able to get through control's defenses. Felt hopeless. I am happy that priest does not have some of the best control tools and an easy otk deck now tho.
Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Here is a clue in case you have missed it somehow. There will always be top decks. When Blizzard nerfs one deck another takes its place.
You missed the point of the post - I'm not complaining about top decks, I'm pointing out that there are less decks than ever being played on the Standard ladder right now which has created a stale experience. And it surprised me because I thought the meta would shake up a bit more after the nerf. And no, I'm not a new player - even if I were, your argument doesn't invalidate new players' experiences with the game. I've found tons of veteran players are just as ignorant about the game as many new players.
You missed the point. Lets start with Ungoro, Quest Rouge was all over the place and the meta got boring and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Then came Jade Druid after Quest rouge was nerfed and Jade Druid was everywhere and the meta got boring and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Then Jade druid was nerfed and Highlander took over and it got boring .and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Now we have a few top decks and people are starting to get bored and soon there will be calls for a nerf. When those decks are nerfed something else will takes its place etc, etc, etc. That you have been playing a long time and have not seen this pattern is simply amazing.
Um, wut. "Now we have a few top decks and people are starting to get bored and soon there will be calls for a nerf." WE JUST GOT ONE which means there won't be another soon. How are you such a "veteran" HS player and don't realize that? and the meta is already boring, it hasn't really changed. I'm glad Highlander has largely disappeared from the ladder, but other than that and Tempo Rogue we're not really seeing a more diverse meta.
Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Here is a clue in case you have missed it somehow. There will always be top decks. When Blizzard nerfs one deck another takes its place.
You missed the point of the post - I'm not complaining about top decks, I'm pointing out that there are less decks than ever being played on the Standard ladder right now which has created a stale experience. And it surprised me because I thought the meta would shake up a bit more after the nerf. And no, I'm not a new player - even if I were, your argument doesn't invalidate new players' experiences with the game. I've found tons of veteran players are just as ignorant about the game as many new players.
You missed the point. Lets start with Ungoro, Quest Rouge was all over the place and the meta got boring and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Then came Jade Druid after Quest rouge was nerfed and Jade Druid was everywhere and the meta got boring and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Then Jade druid was nerfed and Highlander took over and it got boring .and people cried for a nerf and Blizzard gave them one. Now we have a few top decks and people are starting to get bored and soon there will be calls for a nerf. When those decks are nerfed something else will takes its place etc, etc, etc. That you have been playing a long time and have not seen this pattern is simply amazing.
Great strawman, he's not complaining about the top decks themselves or why is a deck on top and not the rest, just the variety of them seeing play. There's no need to be so condescending about it.
Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Here is a clue in case you have missed it somehow. There will always be top decks. When Blizzard nerfs one deck another takes its place.
You missed the point of the post - I'm not complaining about top decks, I'm pointing out that there are less decks than ever being played on the Standard ladder right now which has created a stale experience. And it surprised me because I thought the meta would shake up a bit more after the nerf. And no, I'm not a new player - even if I were, your argument doesn't invalidate new players' experiences with the game. I've found tons of veteran players are just as ignorant about the game as many new players.
I love how this thread / claim exists in complete juxtaposition to another thread where someone is claiming literally the exact opposite: that now there are too many decks and you simply dont know what to expect to see next when you queue.
Though how anyone considers that to be a bad thing is somewhat bonkers, but hey! I guess not everyone can be happy, right?
The point here being that once again it all comes down to simple subjective experience and personal taste.
Most metas aren't diverse, if the way that you define diverse is something along the lines of "most classes have a tier one deck that are all about the same power level as one another". Metas never work that way so why the complaint that this meta is stale just like how most of the old metas have been?
Anybody else feel that the nerfs didn't really shake up the meta? Before the army of bros roll in saying it hasn't been enough time for the new meta to settle - there were only a few cards nerfed, this isn't a whole new expansion, the meta is moving at about the same pace now as it would have anyway. The nerfs took the 5 or 6 netdeck meta from before and just annihilated Tempo Rogue, Highlander Priest, and left us with 90% of my ranked games from ranks 8-5 as Murloc Pally, Secret Mage, and Cubelock - all of which existed in the old meta. I'm enjoying climbing with Dude Pally at a 70% at rank 5 now, but seeing the same matches over, and over, and over, and over, is getting out of hand. I get that one should expect a grind on the ladder in HS, but the current meta is just stale. I'm already looking forward to the next expansion which is......2 months away
Nah, it still feels good to me. I play wild though, so there is slightly more deck variety. Seeing Reno priest change from a silly OTK deck to a value-oriented control deck is one of the nicest and most fun changes I've experienced.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
The thing you have to realize is that nerfing 4 cards will never be as big of a shake up as releasing a new set, even if those 4 cards are the most broken cards ever designed (they weren't).
That said, I think I am pretty happy with the slight change in the meta. The game has become less "priest and warlock-stone" and pretty much every class, besides Warrior and Shaman, now have a tier 1 or tier 2 deck that can compete with the rest of the meta.
Before the Nerf almost every deck hand patches and creeper. I've found the meta feeling significantly more open since those cards are gone.
That you have been playing a long time and have not seen this pattern is simply amazing.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
I hate seeing tempo rogue get killed in the nerf process. Tried it the other day and I was getting killed by aggro, and not able to get through control's defenses. Felt hopeless. I am happy that priest does not have some of the best control tools and an easy otk deck now tho.
From my exp, i meet
Hunter : Secret, Spell
Warlock : Control, cube, zoo
Priest : Control, Inner fire, Dragon Spite
Druid : Jade, Spite Ui
Rogue : Kingsbane, Miracle
Pally : Dude, Murloc, Control Otk.
Mage : Big Spell, Exodia, Tempo Secret
Maybe you kill them fast enough so u dont know what they playin, lul
Most metas aren't diverse, if the way that you define diverse is something along the lines of "most classes have a tier one deck that are all about the same power level as one another". Metas never work that way so why the complaint that this meta is stale just like how most of the old metas have been?