I have been thinking about this recently. I've noticed that there are plenty of 3rd party apps that track what cards you have currently played / show you your deck list etc. There are also ones I've seen which keep track of what cards your opponent has played as well. (Which seems rather unfair on those of us that have to rely on memory)
While these are not technically, of course, cheating / hacking as such, I do wonder if they pose something of an unfair advantage to players over those who can't use them - in particular, those of us who like to play on phones and tablets who can't run these programs.
On that note, do portable users get matched up against PC users? That could answer this problem if they don't. I don't actually know if they do or not - I assumed they do.
Now, you might say that it's "no different to using a pen and paper" or something similar - but it is different, since that involves proactive effort to do whereas these apps don't make the usual human mistakes and do everything instantly without effort. I suppose it's a little like a marathon runner using a sat-nav. It doesnt make them run faster, but it can show them little short cuts that they would have had to actually do some proper research to otherwise find.
It's not unfair, because anyone can do it. Or if u only can play on phone, that's a personal problem not an application problem. Because all that app does u can do yourself with pen and paper if u really wanted to.
In Arena in can be a big advantage but again, if you want you can track that with pen and paper, is more of a convenience thing but it surely helps you play better.
I don't really think it's an advantage at all. I mean let's be realistic here there are only 30 cards in the deck that YOU created and you know what cards you used to create the deck. I know that it happens on occasion to ask yourself mid-game "oh wait did i put that card in the deck or not" but that lasts for only one game. If the game last that long by turn 10 you pretty much know what cards u played and what cards are left to be played. The only advantage that it might provide is when u have only one card in the deck left it can tell you what card is the last one
Searching would of saved you from all the ridicule you're going to receive.
Your analogy is terrible too.
Ridicule about what? Starting a discussion? Asking for view points? And the analogy was fine, too. Thanks for stopping by with the useful addition to the conversation though... lol
I mostly play on my phone also. There is an app for it on Android called "Arcane Tracker" which is the same as the different PC versions.
Do you have to keep switching apps for it though? I don't know about Android, but switching Apps on the iPhone causes the game to need to reload.
No switching. Once you load Arcane Tracker it will launch Hearthstone and start tracking. You can also make you deck on it so it will auto-load instead of it just tracking what you have played. It also tracks you opponents deck.
It's certainly a big advantage in Arena where the number of each card in your deck is not restricted to 1(L) or 2 of each. So it would definitely help if you've loaded in lots of spells etc to know how many you have.
As mentioned, obviously it's not against any rulesas such, otherwise Blizzard would have made a fuss by now. :-) But then, there are plenty of things we do in the game (like emote-spamming) which aren't against the rules, but still provoke conversation and discussion in terms of sportsmanship, etc.
The pen and paper thing would be all very well if we didn't have the ridiculously short turn-tiimer. By the time you've scribbled down what yuo need, you'd have no time left to take your turn. Whereas using 3rd party apps, its all instant and done for you. So there's no thinking required.
I mostly play on my phone also. There is an app for it on Android called "Arcane Tracker" which is the same as the different PC versions.
Do you have to keep switching apps for it though? I don't know about Android, but switching Apps on the iPhone causes the game to need to reload.
No switching. Once you load Arcane Tracker it will launch Hearthstone and start tracking. You can also make you deck on it so it will auto-load instead of it just tracking what you have played. It also tracks you opponents deck.
Tracking your opponent's deck, is an unfair advantage. You're not supposed to know what your opponent has in their hand.
I mostly play on my phone also. There is an app for it on Android called "Arcane Tracker" which is the same as the different PC versions.
Do you have to keep switching apps for it though? I don't know about Android, but switching Apps on the iPhone causes the game to need to reload.
No switching. Once you load Arcane Tracker it will launch Hearthstone and start tracking. You can also make you deck on it so it will auto-load instead of it just tracking what you have played. It also tracks you opponents deck.
It's an advantage, but it's not unfair. It's legal to track cards, wether it's by memory, pen and paper or external tool. That's all there is to it: If it's legal, it's fair.
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I have been thinking about this recently.
I've noticed that there are plenty of 3rd party apps that track what cards you have currently played / show you your deck list etc.
There are also ones I've seen which keep track of what cards your opponent has played as well. (Which seems rather unfair on those of us that have to rely on memory)
While these are not technically, of course, cheating / hacking as such, I do wonder if they pose something of an unfair advantage to players over those who can't use them - in particular, those of us who like to play on phones and tablets who can't run these programs.
On that note, do portable users get matched up against PC users? That could answer this problem if they don't. I don't actually know if they do or not - I assumed they do.
Now, you might say that it's "no different to using a pen and paper" or something similar - but it is different, since that involves proactive effort to do whereas these apps don't make the usual human mistakes and do everything instantly without effort. I suppose it's a little like a marathon runner using a sat-nav. It doesnt make them run faster, but it can show them little short cuts that they would have had to actually do some proper research to otherwise find.
Just a thought, really.
It's not unfair, because anyone can do it. Or if u only can play on phone, that's a personal problem not an application problem. Because all that app does u can do yourself with pen and paper if u really wanted to.
as you already adressed, it is not considered cheating. theres not penalty of helping yourself a little, right?
nothing is unfair when u can do with paper & everyone can use it. some player also have decent memories skill.
same with walking or driving to workplace. it all depend on you.
in some tourney , pro player just use paper. write down all the card.
30 cards max of 2 each, who really needs an app?
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Searching would of saved you from all the ridicule you're going to receive.
Your analogy is terrible too.
In Arena in can be a big advantage but again, if you want you can track that with pen and paper, is more of a convenience thing but it surely helps you play better.
no, even mobile-users could use their brain or pen and paper.
I don't really think it's an advantage at all. I mean let's be realistic here there are only 30 cards in the deck that YOU created and you know what cards you used to create the deck. I know that it happens on occasion to ask yourself mid-game "oh wait did i put that card in the deck or not" but that lasts for only one game. If the game last that long by turn 10 you pretty much know what cards u played and what cards are left to be played. The only advantage that it might provide is when u have only one card in the deck left it can tell you what card is the last one
Stay awhile and listen!
I mostly play on my phone also. There is an app for it on Android called "Arcane Tracker" which is the same as the different PC versions.
Asking for view points?
And the analogy was fine, too.
Thanks for stopping by with the useful addition to the conversation though... lol
I guess if you have trouble reducing fractions with a denominator <30
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I don't know about Android, but switching Apps on the iPhone causes the game to need to reload.
It's an advantage, not unfair. If you learn your deck, you'll know 90% of what's left in your deck. If you play Reno, it's closer to 100%.
Explosive Shot => Meteor
Power Word: Tentacles => Spikeridged Steed
It's certainly a big advantage in Arena where the number of each card in your deck is not restricted to 1(L) or 2 of each.
So it would definitely help if you've loaded in lots of spells etc to know how many you have.
As mentioned, obviously it's not against any rulesas such, otherwise Blizzard would have made a fuss by now. :-)
But then, there are plenty of things we do in the game (like emote-spamming) which aren't against the rules, but still provoke conversation and discussion in terms of sportsmanship, etc.
The pen and paper thing would be all very well if we didn't have the ridiculously short turn-tiimer. By the time you've scribbled down what yuo need, you'd have no time left to take your turn. Whereas using 3rd party apps, its all instant and done for you.
So there's no thinking required.
It's a bit like playing an Aggro deck...
Oh, snap....! See what I did there? Hehehe! :-D
(So yuo can keep track of the polymorph's, hexes, etc)
Explosive Shot => Meteor
Power Word: Tentacles => Spikeridged Steed