So apparently Infiltrator Lilian is a tier 1 card... are you kidding me? she's literally an overcosted Jungle Panther with a Flamecannon attached. I mean... tempo? maybe? Don't see anyone running jungle panther, why would you run an overcosted one with a possible - *possible* - extra minion attached? It's not worth it at all.
So apparently Infiltrator Lilian is a tier 1 card... are you kidding me? she's literally an overcosted Jungle Panther with a Flamecannon attached. I mean... tempo? maybe? Don't see anyone running jungle panther, why would you run an overcosted one with a possible - *possible* - extra minion attached? It's not worth it at all.
Flamecannon can't go Face. this card can do 8 face damage which is exactly what stealth rogue looks for. In a "token" meta its less effective I agree, but this meta is less about small tokens so it shard to play around the death rattle.
I've been playing a lot of tempo rogue, and the card is amazing. There have been so many games, where I attack a taunt minion, then pray the deathrattle token hits face for the win.
In theory, you're right. That's why not a lot of people rated Infiltrator Lilian very highly when it was unveiled. However, we can play the card now and it performs very well when you actually play it.
I dont know where she was rated a tier 1 card that got you all in a tizzy but I'd guess its by someone who actually tested the card instead of wasting brain energy making comparisons that have no bearing on gameplay.
It's a very strong card specifically in the stealth aggro deck, quite simply because it allows for more face damage and enabling the rest of of the stealth package.
You can say that jungle panther wouldn't see play but there are other stealth cards seeing play right now that haven't in a few years.
However, Lilian is probably a replaceable legendary. Like, on a budget, running Jungle Panther or something else might be fine. She's better, but if you don't have the dust, don't worry.
It's a very strong card specifically in the stealth aggro deck, quite simply because it allows for more face damage and enabling the rest of of the stealth package.
You can say that jungle panther wouldn't see play but there are other stealth cards seeing play right now that haven't in a few years.
Yeah good point. Maybe we should be playing/testing with Jungle P as secret passage kind of helps to enhance the cost benefit.
That's not a bug. If youre attacking on the opponent's turn then their weapon is active. The same thing happens with Misdirection, if your minion attacks your face when u have a weapon they'll take the damage.
That's not a bug. If youre attacking on the opponent's turn then their weapon is active. The same thing happens with Misdirection, if your minion attacks your face when u have a weapon they'll take the damage.
It's one of those cards that is good enough in most situations. Excellent in stealth rogue due to having stealth and being quite aggressive, but it's more than solid. If we take her sans deathrattle, then sure, she's bad. But a free flamecannon is excellent, and the fact that it could always hit face, or kill a 1/1 etc, means it could in theory have a body afterwards. Can even cheat it to that point by clearing boards. Surprisingly flexible with just enough synergy to be a key card in a top deck. Not surprising it's an auto craft if you play rogue.
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So apparently Infiltrator Lilian is a tier 1 card... are you kidding me? she's literally an overcosted Jungle Panther with a Flamecannon attached. I mean... tempo? maybe? Don't see anyone running jungle panther, why would you run an overcosted one with a possible - *possible* - extra minion attached? It's not worth it at all.
I mean you write it by yourself. Two very good effects in one card, so that you can have one more card in your deck is HUGE. Definitly Tier 1.
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Flamecannon can't go Face. this card can do 8 face damage which is exactly what stealth rogue looks for. In a "token" meta its less effective I agree, but this meta is less about small tokens so it shard to play around the death rattle.
ok boomer.
I've been playing a lot of tempo rogue, and the card is amazing. There have been so many games, where I attack a taunt minion, then pray the deathrattle token hits face for the win.
In theory, you're right. That's why not a lot of people rated Infiltrator Lilian very highly when it was unveiled. However, we can play the card now and it performs very well when you actually play it.
I dont know where she was rated a tier 1 card that got you all in a tizzy but I'd guess its by someone who actually tested the card instead of wasting brain energy making comparisons that have no bearing on gameplay.
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It's a very strong card specifically in the stealth aggro deck, quite simply because it allows for more face damage and enabling the rest of of the stealth package.
You can say that jungle panther wouldn't see play but there are other stealth cards seeing play right now that haven't in a few years.
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Don't think of it as Flamecannon. It's a slightly weaker Imprisoned Felmaw, tied onto the back end of a Jungle Panther.
A 1-mana 4/2 version of Felmaw would be AWESOME.
However, Lilian is probably a replaceable legendary. Like, on a budget, running Jungle Panther or something else might be fine. She's better, but if you don't have the dust, don't worry.
Yeah good point. Maybe we should be playing/testing with Jungle P as secret passage kind of helps to enhance the cost benefit.
Am i the only one that saw the bug where whenever the auto attack from death lilian go off on the hero that got a weapon equip, it dies?
That's not a bug. If youre attacking on the opponent's turn then their weapon is active. The same thing happens with Misdirection, if your minion attacks your face when u have a weapon they'll take the damage.
Wow i didnt know that, thx for the explaination.
hahaha. Your expentantions go brrr xD
because in stealth aggro you need cards that "thread the needle" and Lilian threads the needle
It's one of those cards that is good enough in most situations. Excellent in stealth rogue due to having stealth and being quite aggressive, but it's more than solid. If we take her sans deathrattle, then sure, she's bad. But a free flamecannon is excellent, and the fact that it could always hit face, or kill a 1/1 etc, means it could in theory have a body afterwards. Can even cheat it to that point by clearing boards. Surprisingly flexible with just enough synergy to be a key card in a top deck. Not surprising it's an auto craft if you play rogue.