I play Control Warlock and I can say that Pure Paladin seems to do better against me when it doesn't dump resources. Control Warlock has MANY board clears, so try to make them use them as inefficiently as possible.
I know that in the past Blizzard has announced nerfs after big tournaments to 1) not throw a wrench in the strategies of people playing those tournaments by patching before the tournament and 2) to see if any cards are super problematic within the tournament.
So, for those who watched, were there any cards that seemed too powerful in the tournament that will clearly be on Team 5’s radar?
I agree with you that the complainers about complainers are the worst. While I don’t recall having experienced it myself, there is a huge contingency of users on this forum who just post the salt thread link on every post, say “git gud”, DH is fine, etc etc. These people make up a shockingly large part of the forums and seem to rarely, if ever, make legitimate contributions.
You have to get all of the cards in your hand to deal that much damage. That's just like any other OTK combo.
Blade Dance is like a multicard Brawl. Actually tougher to pull off.
Regarding getting all the cards, yes. Yes, you are correct. However, no combo deck in the history of HS could draw as fast as DH. DH gets to play aggro as if it was combo and that’s just crazy.
regarding blade dance, no. It doesn’t harm your minions and in DH, where card draw is infinite, it’s basically as easy to buff your hero’s attack and play BD as it is to just draw and play brawl in warrior.
An early video Kripp did said that Heroic Duels will always be worse than arena in terms of being able to get more than 3 wins due to it being based on MMR and not on your record on that particular run. MMR is designed to basically always give you a 50% WR I believe
I am 50/50 on whether this is serious or not. Half of these cards are totally legitimate contenders for the nerf hammer (Tickatus and Blade Dance and Bladed Lady esp). But Blur?? Pit Commander?? I’ve never even seen these played in standard at any rank.
So if you were making a sarcastic post making fun of other nerf threads, you diluted your point into oblivion by including legitimately powerful cards.
But if this isn’t sarcastic at all, then I guess you are playing in apprentice ranks where Blur sees play?
Please read my newest comment.
Ok. Saw it. Fair enough. I hear you. Let me say this first: I do like the idea of a lot of cards getting nerfed (which you've suggested). That would keep the meta fresh, and I'm shocked that there have been no nerfs post-DMF launch. So in a broad regard, I like where your head is at.
Additionally, I think your suggestions for Skull of Guldan and Shardshatter Mystic are very good and fair. Tickatus too, for that matter.
Regarding some of the other cards:
Blur: I think the reason Blur is OK in DH is that it is taking up a spot in a deck that easily draws all of its cards. In a deck like that, every card needs to do something (preferably damage the enemy hero), and blur basically does nothing. DH simply has such powerful tools that even after a rotation, blur still won't make it imo. However, I totally admit to being open to eating my words in a few months. Zero cost spells ALWAYS have the potential for being OP.
Hammer of Naaru: I think your calculations on the value of the card are fair, but I think that the card isn't that great because of when it's played. A card that is basically 6-mana do-nothing (as a 3 attack weapon isn't that good at turn 6 and later) isn't an issue.
I hear you on Breath of Dreams, but it's not really OP in the current meta and the only shake-up we'll get before rotation is the mini-expansion in a few weeks, so I don't feel that that card is really an issue.
And finally: My apologies. Didn't realize the post was serious initially. I absolutely HATE it when someone wants to discuss nerfs and 90% of the forum is just people saying "No nerfs needed. git gud" It's absolutely infuriating and makes the entire idea of a site like Hearthpwn obsolete. So for my participation in that culture of idiocy, my apologies.
I am 50/50 on whether this is serious or not. Half of these cards are totally legitimate contenders for the nerf hammer (Tickatus and Blade Dance and Bladed Lady esp). But Blur?? Pit Commander?? I’ve never even seen these played in standard at any rank.
So if you were making a sarcastic post making fun of other nerf threads, you diluted your point into oblivion by including legitimately powerful cards.
But if this isn’t sarcastic at all, then I guess you are playing in apprentice ranks where Blur sees play?
I didn't get a free deck since I'm on my way out of apprentice league right now. As I read, once you are out of that league you'll get the free deck. I hope it's still working tho.
Once that happens, I'd take a look at the cards in all the decks you're offered and see which ones have a greater number of legendaries and epics that will NOT be rotating in April. (Rise of Shadows, Saviors of Uldum and Descent of Dragons all go away to Wild in April).
You won't really miss out on rewards by only playing constructed, but you may miss out on the fun of Battlegrounds. It's a little weird at first (I initially hated it), but it becomes really fun after awhile imho.
The new achievement system mostly does nothing. The achievements related to Darkmoon Faire, the most recent expansion, give you XP, which can eventually turn into gold/packs (though the XP is small). Achievements are kind of like the trophies on Playstation in that they're just for show and are for the players who are in to that kind of thing.
she was removed a while back, maybe a week or two, sadface she was the most fun to play
She was a TON of fun, but I guess clearly OP. Especially when compared to jaraxxus. She gave more stats and it’s so much easier to grab minions of different tribes than search for demons only
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I am Mal’Ganis! I AM A TURTLE!!!!
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I play Control Warlock and I can say that Pure Paladin seems to do better against me when it doesn't dump resources. Control Warlock has MANY board clears, so try to make them use them as inefficiently as possible.
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Only explanations for this comment are insanity or grade A comedy
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48,000 gold?????
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Thanks for all the replies! This all sounds like about what I would have expected lol
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I know that in the past Blizzard has announced nerfs after big tournaments to 1) not throw a wrench in the strategies of people playing those tournaments by patching before the tournament and 2) to see if any cards are super problematic within the tournament.
So, for those who watched, were there any cards that seemed too powerful in the tournament that will clearly be on Team 5’s radar?
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Yes. They’re making Battle fiend’s initial attack 9 now. Second slice now also adds Third Slice to your hand.
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I agree with you that the complainers about complainers are the worst. While I don’t recall having experienced it myself, there is a huge contingency of users on this forum who just post the salt thread link on every post, say “git gud”, DH is fine, etc etc. These people make up a shockingly large part of the forums and seem to rarely, if ever, make legitimate contributions.
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Regarding getting all the cards, yes. Yes, you are correct. However, no combo deck in the history of HS could draw as fast as DH. DH gets to play aggro as if it was combo and that’s just crazy.
regarding blade dance, no. It doesn’t harm your minions and in DH, where card draw is infinite, it’s basically as easy to buff your hero’s attack and play BD as it is to just draw and play brawl in warrior.
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An early video Kripp did said that Heroic Duels will always be worse than arena in terms of being able to get more than 3 wins due to it being based on MMR and not on your record on that particular run. MMR is designed to basically always give you a 50% WR I believe
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Ok. Saw it. Fair enough. I hear you. Let me say this first: I do like the idea of a lot of cards getting nerfed (which you've suggested). That would keep the meta fresh, and I'm shocked that there have been no nerfs post-DMF launch. So in a broad regard, I like where your head is at.
Additionally, I think your suggestions for Skull of Guldan and Shardshatter Mystic are very good and fair. Tickatus too, for that matter.
Regarding some of the other cards:
Blur: I think the reason Blur is OK in DH is that it is taking up a spot in a deck that easily draws all of its cards. In a deck like that, every card needs to do something (preferably damage the enemy hero), and blur basically does nothing. DH simply has such powerful tools that even after a rotation, blur still won't make it imo. However, I totally admit to being open to eating my words in a few months. Zero cost spells ALWAYS have the potential for being OP.
Hammer of Naaru: I think your calculations on the value of the card are fair, but I think that the card isn't that great because of when it's played. A card that is basically 6-mana do-nothing (as a 3 attack weapon isn't that good at turn 6 and later) isn't an issue.
I hear you on Breath of Dreams, but it's not really OP in the current meta and the only shake-up we'll get before rotation is the mini-expansion in a few weeks, so I don't feel that that card is really an issue.
And finally: My apologies. Didn't realize the post was serious initially. I absolutely HATE it when someone wants to discuss nerfs and 90% of the forum is just people saying "No nerfs needed. git gud" It's absolutely infuriating and makes the entire idea of a site like Hearthpwn obsolete. So for my participation in that culture of idiocy, my apologies.
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I am 50/50 on whether this is serious or not. Half of these cards are totally legitimate contenders for the nerf hammer (Tickatus and Blade Dance and Bladed Lady esp). But Blur?? Pit Commander?? I’ve never even seen these played in standard at any rank.
So if you were making a sarcastic post making fun of other nerf threads, you diluted your point into oblivion by including legitimately powerful cards.
But if this isn’t sarcastic at all, then I guess you are playing in apprentice ranks where Blur sees play?
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Once that happens, I'd take a look at the cards in all the decks you're offered and see which ones have a greater number of legendaries and epics that will NOT be rotating in April. (Rise of Shadows, Saviors of Uldum and Descent of Dragons all go away to Wild in April).
You won't really miss out on rewards by only playing constructed, but you may miss out on the fun of Battlegrounds. It's a little weird at first (I initially hated it), but it becomes really fun after awhile imho.
The new achievement system mostly does nothing. The achievements related to Darkmoon Faire, the most recent expansion, give you XP, which can eventually turn into gold/packs (though the XP is small). Achievements are kind of like the trophies on Playstation in that they're just for show and are for the players who are in to that kind of thing.
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She was a TON of fun, but I guess clearly OP. Especially when compared to jaraxxus. She gave more stats and it’s so much easier to grab minions of different tribes than search for demons only