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Quote from Deadly_Pants2 >>

Only thing I wanna know after this thread was made what rank is the OP on

Wait this is an actual combo??

2 mana 3/4 needs a nerf

4 mana 7/7 needs a nerf

1 mana 2/1 with potential to give +2 attack to a minion needs a nerf

Guess that's all I can possibly say for this tough

Wild Pyro to clear off your cancer does not need any kind of nerf

There's a simple way to counter the Wild Pyro/Commanding Shout combo, to the point where they have to use way more cards to get the same effect. Play deathrattle minions that summon a minion on death. Being serious though, it's not that bad, I've only seen it like twice, and they had to use about 5 cards for Ito actually be useful. If it only affected friendly minions then it would no longer be a board clear and would only be useful to Warior. 

What the? Never.

Quote from robert_fanr >>

Ok I get it !

Every player in this community loves playing control/combo decks and the general consent is that if someone is playing Aggro/Tempo/Mid-Range they have no skill .

I reached legend so I do know how to play .

I guess I just have a different view of what fun means in this game . I for example do not consider fun to keep ruining what your opponent is trying to do until he concedes or you finally get your win condition . I consider fun being proactive and trying to win the game by your moves rather than just denying whatever the opponent is doing until he has nothing left .

Quote from Das_King >>

In this case, here are a few more non-interactive cards that should be nerfed:

• Frost Nova - freeze only friendly minions
• Blizzard - same
• Doomsayer - destroy only friendly minions
• Equality - change text to "After Wild Pyromancer does his thingy, change the health of all minions to 1"
• Keeper of Uldaman - before applying its battlecry ask the opponent if he agrees (maybe he really really wants that big minion there)

Worgen Combo isn't even that good. Gotta do the ghoul combo after they mill your Worgen to give them a little hope

Quote from Raptarius >>

Just nerf Charge, then all the degenerate combos are gone.

This thread really annoys me. People get mad cuz a combo actually works and is effective and so they get salty and say that the card*s should be nerfed without any thought about card balancing. If your salty go to the salt thread pls.

Quote from ManThighs >>

This thread really annoys me. People get mad cuz a combo actually works and is effective and so they get salty and say that the card*s should be nerfed without any thought about card balancing. If your salty go to the salt thread pls.

I'd keep an eye on Battle Rage for sure, so much cycle for combo decks.

This is fine.

I think moving it to a 2/2 and keeping everything else the same would be fine, aka the Knife Juggler nerf. But nothing more than that.

Quote from robert_fanr >>

Ok I get it !

Every player in this community loves playing control/combo decks and the general consent is that if someone is playing Aggro/Tempo/Mid-Range they have no skill .

I reached legend so I do know how to play .

I guess I just have a different view of what fun means in this game . I for example do not consider fun to keep ruining what your opponent is trying to do until he concedes or you finally get your win condition . I consider fun being proactive and trying to win the game by your moves rather than just denying whatever the opponent is doing until he has nothing left .

Quote from Sahgos >>

Quote from robert_fanr >>

I believe such non-interactive combos that punish the opponent for simply trying to put minions on the board aren't fun at all and should not be allowed to exists .

 

 Several cards and combos already exist that punish opponents for "simply trying to put minions on the board".

1. Brawl
2. Twisting Nether
3. Wild Pyromancer + Equality
4. Equality + Consecration
5. Elemental Destruction
6. Poison Seeds + Starfall
7. Poison Seeds + Explosive Sheep

Why is your example any different?  HS has embraced these mechanisms for precisely the reason that they create doubt in players mind when stuffing the board with minions.

 

but we are talking about at least a 4 card combo (at least 5 cards for your #2 when you are talking Acolyte of Pain)

and that's not even for winning the game like some OTK combos

Quote from HavvkPwn >>

but we are talking about at least a 4 card combo (at least 5 cards for your #2 when you are talking Acolyte of Pain)

and that's not even for winning the game like some OTK combos

Oh no, something is finally original, better nerf it.

Quote from robert_fanr >>

I've seen dozens of situations in witch this card in combination with commanding shout and other spells like execute was able to wreck an entire board regardless of number of minions or their power and there was absolutely nothing the opponent could do about it . 

I believe such non-interactive combos that punish the opponent for simply trying to put minions on the board aren't fun at all and should not be allowed to exists .

I would change Pyromancer to do damage only to friendly minions . This would allow him to still be useful in decks like Patron Warrier without being overpowered .

What do you think ?