i been going ham in ladder and its soo much worse then i ever could have thought. First there were allot of shamans in low ranks and priests but the more i climbed to diamond 5, those decks slowly dissabeared and were replaced with rogues and paladins, the more i kept going to diamond 5 and got there, it has been net deck after net deck after net deck. its like, Baku hunter, quest hunter, secret hunter, buff paladins, and soooo many and i mean the only warrior deck in ladder is pirate warrior and than you get otk mages with infinity mana and ice block.
NOW I would like to talk about deck consistency, this is very very important. What i mean with deck consistency is that how well the deck Performance under the pressure of rng. The deck that i play is super good under good rng and absolute dog water under bad rng, and the chances of me landing good rng and win a game. Now, pirate warrior doesnt take allot of pressure from bad rng, the worst that could happen is too big pirates in starting hand but that rarely happens, because you got tutor cards like pirates drawing pirates and the quest literally giving you a weapon that gives you the chance to draw even more pirates and when the quest is done, its basically over if you dont have a otk or giga board of minions because warriors quest is literally better version of [card]lakkari Sacrifice[card] you do constant 4 damage, get a minion and a weapon.
We got literally deathrattle rogues combating againts pirate warrior, we got hunters combating againts pirate warrior, we got paladins combating againts pirate warrior we got mages farming slower decks and pirate warrior just doing the E.X.A.C.T same thing over and over again. im literally going insane from repeating the same sh't over and over again, and I SWEAR nobody has played quest shaman on wild ladder, not even one, its either aggro shaman, battlecry shaman or murloc shaman or big shaman but not quest shaman.
I been trying my hardest to withstand the insanity that is literally the whole f*cking game revolving around ONE f*cking deck, there is no originality, no consistency, when the main deck is soo simple that even rng cant f*ck it up and when that happens, we have a problem!
So do you want people to play suboptimal decks? People are gonna play the top decks because when you reach diamond 5 it's all about the grind to legend.
So do you want people to play suboptimal decks? People are gonna play the top decks because when you reach diamond 5 it's all about the grind to legend.
I believe you can make optimal decks. its just that the decks that are going, again, are the same. You copy deck from internet and than go to ladder. if i see hunter, i bet my left testicle, he is going to have a baku granting upgraded hero power and than quest appears.
I been trying my hardest to withstand the insanity that is literally the whole f*cking game revolving around ONE f*cking deck, there is no originality, no consistency, when the main deck is soo simple that even rng cant f*ck it up and when that happens, we have a problem!
Your comment leads only to one conclusion: there's no such thing as 'RNG'. There's only an A.I. deciding who wins or loses. Explanation: serving a target audience for marketing purposes. It's that cynical. Thinking in terms of skill and strategy is make believe to keep you playing: the next game I'll be better and hopefully win... and if you do remember it's not your skill, it's the A.I grand you that.
Just experiment: after 3 losses in a row stop playing for 10 minutes. The A.I logs that and in other to keep you playing will grant you the next victory. Test it.
I been trying my hardest to withstand the insanity that is literally the whole f*cking game revolving around ONE f*cking deck, there is no originality, no consistency, when the main deck is soo simple that even rng cant f*ck it up and when that happens, we have a problem!
Your comment leads only to one conclusion: there's no such thing as 'RNG'. There's only an A.I. deciding who wins or loses. Explanation: serving a target audience for marketing purposes. It's that cynical. Thinking in terms of skill and strategy is make believe to keep you playing: the next game I'll be better and hopefully win... and if you do remember it's not your skill, it's the A.I grand you that.
Just experiment: after 3 losses in a row stop playing for 10 minutes. The A.I logs that and in other to keep you playing will grant you the next victory. Test it.
im saying that the pirate warrior requires less rng when the deck is soo emptyly simple and there is soo much tutoring from each card interaction, you dingus. if you have bad start, lets say as rogue, you automatically are screwed and have less odds of winning, if pirate warrior has a bad start, it gets easily fixed within 1 turn because you get a weapon, from your quest and cheap piraties ahoi.
Did Hugo reserve 4 posts for his own rants or did a mod stomp on him? As to the OP: Good decks are good because they are consistent in card games. Bad decks are bad because they don't consistently generate the problems or solutions they need to win a game. If a deck fails the consistency question, nothing else really matters.
What's so hard to understand here ? People are going HARD at that one extra pack. xD
Who cares about Family or Friends on Christmas when 4 extra commons and another 20 duster RARE are on stake !!!
Not like anybody except YOU actually cares if you get Legendary rank or not, not even Blizzard themself, hence the shitty reward.
tl:dr
find a better hobby than Wastestone, this game has been PSEUDO competitive for like since Beta release, yet people are sacrificing their lifes to the Illusion of accomplishing anything meaningful.
I don't care about the extra pack, but i have kept seeing people who already have it in diamond 5.
I have played this game for since black rock mountain, i have never hit legend and i don't want to humiliate myself by using these brain dead net decks to receive the achievement.. 7 years of meta decks, 7 years of trying to have fun, 7 bloody years.
I want to finally end it, i get the legendary card back and that will be the end of the grinding forever.
I don't care about the extra pack, but i have kept seeing people who already have it in diamond 5.
I have played this game for since black rock mountain, i have never hit legend and i don't want to humiliate myself by using these brain dead net decks to receive the achievement.. 7 years of meta decks, 7 years of trying to have fun, 7 bloody years.
I want to finally end it, i get the legendary card back and that will be the end of the grinding forever.
The thing you complain about is what kept you playing for seven years. Hearthstone is a mediocre and expensive game. There are far better games out there. The reason it kept you playing for years is purely gambling psychology.
The whole game ( rng, matchmaking, draw order) are all part of this and they are all carefully programmed to keep you playing
I don't care about the extra pack, but i have kept seeing people who already have it in diamond 5.
I have played this game for since black rock mountain, i have never hit legend and i don't want to humiliate myself by using these brain dead net decks to receive the achievement.. 7 years of meta decks, 7 years of trying to have fun, 7 bloody years.
I want to finally end it, i get the legendary card back and that will be the end of the grinding forever.
The thing you complain about is what kept you playing for seven years. Hearthstone is a mediocre and expensive game. There are far better games out there. The reason it kept you playing for years is purely gambling psychology.
The whole game ( rng, matchmaking, draw order) are all part of this and they are all carefully programmed to keep you playing
i have tried few other card games, when i was kid, i was big fan of duel masters and how it worked. i tried the lol version of hearthstone and it felt very clunky to me and i tried duelyst, i tried elder scrolls legends even. but everytime i came back to hearthstone, and it has always pain me in the back that i havent reached legend even once.
if i see hunter, i bet my left testicle, he is going to have a baku granting upgraded hero power and than quest appears.
lmao I agree man. I think we are at the worst state of the wild meta around now. its been like that since the stormwind. before that there were many variety in the wild mode, and I was loving it. I hate the "matchup" meta where you can guess 100% exact deck your opponent will be playing just by looking at his class, and you know if you can win that game or not (like rock paper scissors, except you can see which one is your opponent at the mulligan and your pick was already determined). thats why I kinda left the standard mode before, lacks variety too much to be played in my opinion.
if i see hunter, i bet my left testicle, he is going to have a baku granting upgraded hero power and than quest appears.
lmao I agree man. I think we are at the worst state of the wild meta around now. its been like that since the stormwind. before that there were many variety in the wild mode, and I was loving it. I hate the "matchup" meta where you can guess 100% exact deck your opponent will be playing just by looking at his class, and you know if you can win that game or not (like rock paper scissors, except you can see which one is your opponent at the mulligan and your pick was already determined). thats why I kinda left the standard mode before, lacks variety too much to be played in my opinion.
i sometimes meet off meta decks which is like small drop water in a desert. but most of the time, the same stuff. like, 100 matches to get to diamond should be like a gold standard, 100 wins and boom you are done. but in reality it could be 200 or even 500 before you hit it.
I don't care about the extra pack, but i have kept seeing people who already have it in diamond 5.
I have played this game for since black rock mountain, i have never hit legend and i don't want to humiliate myself by using these brain dead net decks to receive the achievement.. 7 years of meta decks, 7 years of trying to have fun, 7 bloody years.
I want to finally end it, i get the legendary card back and that will be the end of the grinding forever.
The thing you complain about is what kept you playing for seven years. Hearthstone is a mediocre and expensive game. There are far better games out there. The reason it kept you playing for years is purely gambling psychology.
The whole game ( rng, matchmaking, draw order) are all part of this and they are all carefully programmed to keep you playing
i been going ham in ladder and its soo much worse then i ever could have thought.
First there were allot of shamans in low ranks and priests but the more i climbed to diamond 5, those decks slowly dissabeared and were replaced with rogues and paladins, the more i kept going to diamond 5 and got there, it has been net deck after net deck after net deck.
its like, Baku hunter, quest hunter, secret hunter, buff paladins, and soooo many and i mean the only warrior deck in ladder is pirate warrior and than you get otk mages with infinity mana and ice block.
NOW I would like to talk about deck consistency, this is very very important.
What i mean with deck consistency is that how well the deck Performance under the pressure of rng.
The deck that i play is super good under good rng and absolute dog water under bad rng, and the chances of me landing good rng and win a game.
Now, pirate warrior doesnt take allot of pressure from bad rng, the worst that could happen is too big pirates in starting hand but that rarely happens, because you got tutor cards like pirates drawing pirates and the quest literally giving you a weapon that gives you the chance to draw even more pirates and when the quest is done, its basically over if you dont have a otk or giga board of minions because warriors quest is literally better version of [card]lakkari Sacrifice[card] you do constant 4 damage, get a minion and a weapon.
We got literally deathrattle rogues combating againts pirate warrior, we got hunters combating againts pirate warrior, we got paladins combating againts pirate warrior we got mages farming slower decks and pirate warrior just doing the E.X.A.C.T same thing over and over again. im literally going insane from repeating the same sh't over and over again, and I SWEAR nobody has played quest shaman on wild ladder, not even one, its either aggro shaman, battlecry shaman or murloc shaman or big shaman but not quest shaman.
I been trying my hardest to withstand the insanity that is literally the whole f*cking game revolving around ONE f*cking deck, there is no originality, no consistency, when the main deck is soo simple that even rng cant f*ck it up and when that happens, we have a problem!
So do you want people to play suboptimal decks? People are gonna play the top decks because when you reach diamond 5 it's all about the grind to legend.
I miss the (somewhat) skill based hearthstone, nowadays it just feels like everything is decided by the matchup
I believe you can make optimal decks. its just that the decks that are going, again, are the same.
You copy deck from internet and than go to ladder.
if i see hunter, i bet my left testicle, he is going to have a baku granting upgraded hero power and than quest appears.
Its not only the matchup, its also obviously the rng, which pirate warrior definitely doesnt have.
Your comment leads only to one conclusion: there's no such thing as 'RNG'. There's only an A.I. deciding who wins or loses. Explanation: serving a target audience for marketing purposes. It's that cynical. Thinking in terms of skill and strategy is make believe to keep you playing: the next game I'll be better and hopefully win... and if you do remember it's not your skill, it's the A.I grand you that.
Just experiment: after 3 losses in a row stop playing for 10 minutes. The A.I logs that and in other to keep you playing will grant you the next victory. Test it.
We make our world significant through the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.
im saying that the pirate warrior requires less rng when the deck is soo emptyly simple and there is soo much tutoring from each card interaction, you dingus.
if you have bad start, lets say as rogue, you automatically are screwed and have less odds of winning, if pirate warrior has a bad start, it gets easily fixed within 1 turn because you get a weapon, from your quest and cheap piraties ahoi.
Thread is full of big brains
I had a stroke trying to read this and fucking died.
Did Hugo reserve 4 posts for his own rants or did a mod stomp on him? As to the OP: Good decks are good because they are consistent in card games. Bad decks are bad because they don't consistently generate the problems or solutions they need to win a game. If a deck fails the consistency question, nothing else really matters.
Playing this game is not the definition of sanity.
Take a walk on the wild side...
What's so hard to understand here ? People are going HARD at that one extra pack. xD
Who cares about Family or Friends on Christmas when 4 extra commons and another 20 duster RARE are on stake !!!
Not like anybody except YOU actually cares if you get Legendary rank or not, not even Blizzard themself, hence the shitty reward.
tl:dr
find a better hobby than Wastestone, this game has been PSEUDO competitive for like since Beta release, yet people are sacrificing their lifes to the Illusion of accomplishing anything meaningful.
That implies one has a family or friend to begin with.
Im trying to get the legendary card back.
I don't care about the extra pack, but i have kept seeing people who already have it in diamond 5.
I have played this game for since black rock mountain, i have never hit legend and i don't want to humiliate myself by using these brain dead net decks to receive the achievement.. 7 years of meta decks, 7 years of trying to have fun, 7 bloody years.
I want to finally end it, i get the legendary card back and that will be the end of the grinding forever.
The thing you complain about is what kept you playing for seven years. Hearthstone is a mediocre and expensive game. There are far better games out there. The reason it kept you playing for years is purely gambling psychology.
The whole game ( rng, matchmaking, draw order) are all part of this and they are all carefully programmed to keep you playing
i have tried few other card games, when i was kid, i was big fan of duel masters and how it worked.
i tried the lol version of hearthstone and it felt very clunky to me and i tried duelyst, i tried elder scrolls legends even.
but everytime i came back to hearthstone, and it has always pain me in the back that i havent reached legend even once.
lmao I agree man. I think we are at the worst state of the wild meta around now. its been like that since the stormwind. before that there were many variety in the wild mode, and I was loving it. I hate the "matchup" meta where you can guess 100% exact deck your opponent will be playing just by looking at his class, and you know if you can win that game or not (like rock paper scissors, except you can see which one is your opponent at the mulligan and your pick was already determined). thats why I kinda left the standard mode before, lacks variety too much to be played in my opinion.
i sometimes meet off meta decks which is like small drop water in a desert.
but most of the time, the same stuff.
like, 100 matches to get to diamond should be like a gold standard, 100 wins and boom you are done.
but in reality it could be 200 or even 500 before you hit it.
100% truth.
/End thread.
Being played by blizzard while you play and accept that as a fact is not much of a skill, does it?
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