Hearthpwn

Summary: this game is ass.

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Nah deleting this game now. I don't remember the last time the game was fun. The designers since Ben Brode left are so incompetent. 

 Doubt you actually delete it... See you again tomorrow friend

 I did delete it, but 4 days later I am here, installing it again... Ben Brode and his team made me addicted, living on hope that it will become fun again I guess..

You're not addicted to Hearthstone specifically.
You're addicted to the gambling mechanics that are used in this game (for very different reasons).
That's why it's so hard to stop.
That's why so many people get super defensive as soon as you criticize this game.
It's textbook addict behavior.

What do sites like VS Syndicate, HSReplay etc. actually do?
The don't show you what deck is the best.
They show you what deck has the best chance of winning.
It's the equivalent of card counting.
Probability calculation is by far the most valuable skill you can have in this game nowadays.
That alone should raise eyebrows but hey, it's just a "children's card game" right?

Hearthstone is a gambling simulator and people who are already addicted to it should never ever try real gambling because they'd get hooked INSTANTLY.
Same goes for Battlegrounds. Blizzard uses gambling mechanics in every game they can. Quality gameplay has no priority anymore. It used to be the most important factor to make money in this industry but those days are gone forever.

 100% dead on. Kudos sir. Too bad many haven't figured this out 

100% - Hearthstone is and has been broken for years now. It's just some sort of bad mobile Casio game wannabe.

The whole point for creating a deck died when discover was introduced which was a big draw for anyone 'liking' the game in the first place.

Another fun aspect was creating homebrew decks that could compete. That died when Blizzard were making pre-built synergy cards that released with every set literally killing any form of player innovation or uniqueness in the game.

Balancing rules such as restricting legendaries to 1 per deck died once they infested the game with discover and other forms of rng which let you have multiple copies of cards with the most powerful effects. Cool right??. No it's not. They should know that if everything is powerful everywhere, all the time...then nothing is.

This stuff could have actually been fixed and balanced years ago, but Blizzard never cared about balance, fun, or game integrity. They only cared about what broken busted stuff they could print every 3 months to generate cheap buzz to sell packs with a plan to nerf it all post purchase.

Now due to the prepackaged 'win' conditions they print each set, everyone is forced to play net decks which beyond being godawfully boring, stale, and repetitive...also makes 90% of the other cards completely useless each expansion. Remember when murlocs were ruining the metas?

As a result, Hearthstone is now so terrible, soulless, unenjoyable, and imbalanced as a strategy card game that there is only one solution....

"Nuke it from orbit"

Face it boys Hearthstone is just a bad game now, and has been for years 

Every player ive invited new to this game hated it, in addition to it being way too expensive.

Just accept it along with the fact that it will only get worse from here 

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Really wish all the Dev’s would be fired. They create shit meta after shit meta. Went from 75# of games being Paladin to 85% being astalor warrior. Remember when the dev’s said they wanted board interaction? So much for that. Just fire them all. I don’t remember the last time we had a good meta. 

 Lol pretty much. 

Either Un'goro or Knights of the Frozen Throne maybe?

Everything since has been obnoxious, annoying, and void of any actual fun or strategy.

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It's simply far too easy to manipulate player matches, card draw, or rng with algorithms if you understand anything about coding.

Great, explain it. Give examples of a match where a player had spend more money and were given a perfect draw in a given situation against a player who was free-to-play. Explain it to me. Maybe you're right, maybe the game is rigged in that way. I'm only interested in the truth, it's certainly possible that I'm wrong.

No. I'm not a dev assigned to building their proprietary algorithms, nor would I want to be. See, Blizzard has kind of this awful history of enforcing bad practices in their games of late from Hearthstone, to Wow, to Diablo, to Overwatch..and in many cases outright lying to gamers even.

Why would I waste time. You believe what the hell you want to. This is a forum, not some municipal court.

1.Most corporate entities in the gaming industry will do anything to get more $$$ out of player.

2. Blizzard has very clearly stated this on multiple occasions that their matches are fixed to try to maintain a 50% win ratio for all players. What does that mean specifically? Who they hell knows, but it still means they rig matches whether you like it or not.

3. Most players can attest to running into a suspicious string of counter decks based on what you put in your own deck and that's all the evidence I need.

When the game wants you to lose, you will lose.

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I don't. I don't think you do either. I think you cherry picked bits and pieces to support your argument and are trying really hard to make the piece fit into the puzzle when it doesn't seem to.  

I understand the document very well. I work in an industry where we monitor our customers like rats so we can manipulate them to spend money. On the other hand, what proof do you have that the whole ecosystem is not controlled and manipulated? As I said, whenever a consumer queues in a game, the consumer assumes that there are equal chances of winning the game, but again, if you try to read that document, you can find out that you don't have all the time equal chances of winning. Is there any explicit information when you queue that you may be queued in games where we can adjust your MMR, giving the opponent a perfect draw, or we may queue you in games just to advertise our cards? Nooo, you assume that you are playing according to the law of basic probabilities. 

Thus, you make an assumption based on corporation's trustworthy, I make assumption on a legal document. Who is closer to the truth?

 Since neither of you can prove what Blizzard actually does with their algorithms, we have two likely scenarios.

1. This company cheats against naturally occurring random wins of the player by manipulating matches. This can be enforced to support of wide range of company interests, player addiction, card sales to minors and whales, players obsessed with legend, etc.

2. Nothing is manipulated by Blizzard and everything is purely random in the game, and it's just a mystery why there are so few decks with 70% or higher win rates in a game this broken overall.

I know corporate America too well to not believe it's the latter.

It's simply far too easy to manipulate player matches, card draw, or rng with algorithms if you understand anything about coding.

OP: To answer your question, yes this game is 100% rigged. From MMR, to the opponent's decks you face, to the cards you draw, to your top draw,  down to the discovery pool.

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I wish Microsoft would have laid off the entire hearthstone developer team. They destroyed this game. 

 100%

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That's Why there mostly just bots playing at every rank.

They have to do this at this point to artificially inflate player count, fake short cue times and trick stakeholders into believing that this game is still somewhat popular.

No real players can tolerate more than a few infuriating, uninteractive rounds of this garbage before logging out to play much better games that are actually fun to play.

Congrats Blizzard, you guys are a joke to the community and have completely made HS a game that is now complete ass.

Kudos Morons.

 I’d say they have done such a good job that you decided to rage on it . Validated for sure

 Did I hit a nerve? To clarify, I'm neither raging nor angry. Just stating facts about the steaming pile of shit experience that Blizzard has devolved this once fun game into.

That's Why there mostly just bots playing at every rank.

They have to do this at this point to artificially inflate player count, fake short cue times and trick stakeholders into believing that this game is still somewhat popular.

No real players can tolerate more than a few infuriating, uninteractive rounds of this garbage before logging out to play much better games that are actually fun to play.

Congrats Blizzard, you guys are a joke to the community and have completely made HS a game that is now complete ass.

Kudos Morons.

hahaa.  This game is in such a terrible state. I feel bad for Microsoft paying 68 billion for this crap company and their garbage heap of a game.

Worst investment of the decade award goes to those clowns.

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why the fuck does a battlecry of Inquisitive Creation work with Deputization Aura.. zero skill, full clear heal to full. so dumb.

 Yep. Accept it.

This game has gone beyond retarded.

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I honestly don't get why people are so upset by bots. It's just a free win in most cases.

 Apart from the obvious, i want to play the game and not against bots. Actually i have no clue what the meta is and how i should tweak my self made deck and when i tech against the bots, i lack against real players. YES! Some bots are REALLY effective! Death Knight is like they created that class just for bots.

 

Second: Those bots waste TIME! FCK the free win, i could have won 4 more against real players.

 This was easy to figure out on release.

DK was added to support more effective Blizzard bots 100%.

100% agree. This expansion is in the trash bin.

Awful experience every game from round 1.