I've played a game of brawl with every class except mage and shaman, played several with hunter (complete crap btw) and a few with paladin. Every game except 1 i played against opposing player as a shaman and it seemed like the shaman decks are vastly superior to all others, they are able to establish early and heavy board control and maintain it through multiple board wipes simple dumping down an obscene amount of high value minions turn after turn.
I even had this one game as a Druid with tree of life, the game went on until we were down to our last cards, but it was all I could do to stave off damage and heal myself, I did 2 full board wipes which he promptly filled again within 2 turns, and one heal from 3 hp to 30 with Tree of Life, he still ended the game with me having used every card in my deck bar 1, and him with a full board of minions, including 2 Al'akir's.
Haven't won a single game of tavern brawl in over 10 matches and everybody (literally) is playing shaman, something wrong here?
Just had another game while I was waiting to see if anyone replied.. guess what, again another shaman. I played mage, got tons of spell power cards even malygos and an antonidas. Got no spells, no board clear, had a mad scientest at the opener but no secrets in my deck. Shaman won due to overwhelming board control as usual.
Pretty certain shaman's are not balanced this time around and it's not just me being salty, there is literally no way I could have won the majority of games against them with the cards I had.
Pretty sure you're just being salty,the decks are COMPLETELY random,your opponents are probably just really lucky.
Just like in Arena (where you're offered random cards to pick), certain classes are higher tier simply because they have advantages such as having a more versatile class card pool overall than other classes (Mage has a lot of removal which tends to be independent of whether your minions synergize with it or not, for example, compared to things like Inner Fire or Rampage).
In order to be completely fair while being 100% random, the chances of picking decent cards must first be equal among all classes.
Shaman isn't bad overall as far as class cards go. They have some ugly ones but so does everyone and shaman doesn't have a whole ton of them. The lack of solid aggro/combo style decks, meanwhile, help them as they face fewer weaknesses.
Though do note:
1. Shaman is not the best class in this brawl.
2. even if they were, it doesn't matter since brawl, by design, is NOT balanced. The goal is to find the broken combination before the brawl ends. It's not meant to be fair for all classes, or even any class.
I found shaman to be terrible in this Brawl. But that may be because I just had terrible RNG both times I played it. A few Dust Devil [/card]s? thanks... at one point all I had were all the old overload cards that no-one plays anymore and I could not get anything going. THat being said, any class can be terrible or awesome since it is so RNG this brawl. It took me a while to get my first win. I have had a few where I have been close and a few where one or both of us sat there and played almost nothing for the ist 5 rounds since all my cards were 6+s. But having a mage with [card]Archmage AntondiasMalygos andArcane Blast made up for it!
The rampant misuse of "literally" makes me figuratively want to pull my hair out. Nothing like broad sweeping generalizations with no support whatsoever to reinforce dubious claims. Jesus.
Side point: It's not really misuse of the word "literally," inasmuch as the first recorded instance of said 'misuse' is in none other than Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain: "By the afternoon, Tom was literally rolling in wealth." (It was 'misused' before that, as well, but in a slightly different way; it was used to mean "to the fullest extreme of the idea," not used to mean "figuratively" the way that Twain used it.) If a word has been used in a specific way for better than a century and in some of a culture's most historic and honored literature, I think you have to call on the 'common usage' rule and just bite the bullet.
Main point: Statistically speaking, Hearthstone has enough players and enough games that it's inevitable that someone, somewhere would lose 10 games in a row to OP Shaman Brawl decks. That's not terribly surprising. What it makes you wonder is how many people with similar experiences haven't come to HearthPwn to salt about it.
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I looked at this card originally and I thought, you know, it's a card, and you play this card. The card will be that card that you play so you're playing a card. So, it is one thing to play a card. If you're opponent doesn't really have any cards, the card will screw up the card pretty hard, and that means it's a pretty good card.
I've played a game of brawl with every class except mage and shaman, played several with hunter (complete crap btw) and a few with paladin. Every game except 1 i played against opposing player as a shaman and it seemed like the shaman decks are vastly superior to all others, they are able to establish early and heavy board control and maintain it through multiple board wipes simple dumping down an obscene amount of high value minions turn after turn.
I even had this one game as a Druid with tree of life, the game went on until we were down to our last cards, but it was all I could do to stave off damage and heal myself, I did 2 full board wipes which he promptly filled again within 2 turns, and one heal from 3 hp to 30 with Tree of Life, he still ended the game with me having used every card in my deck bar 1, and him with a full board of minions, including 2 Al'akir's.
Haven't won a single game of tavern brawl in over 10 matches and everybody (literally) is playing shaman, something wrong here?
Just had another game while I was waiting to see if anyone replied.. guess what, again another shaman. I played mage, got tons of spell power cards even malygos and an antonidas. Got no spells, no board clear, had a mad scientest at the opener but no secrets in my deck. Shaman won due to overwhelming board control as usual.
Pretty certain shaman's are not balanced this time around and it's not just me being salty, there is literally no way I could have won the majority of games against them with the cards I had.
http://i.imgur.com/LlPNCpG.jpg
Pretty sure you're just being salty,the decks are COMPLETELY random,your opponents are probably just really lucky.
Just like in Arena (where you're offered random cards to pick), certain classes are higher tier simply because they have advantages such as having a more versatile class card pool overall than other classes (Mage has a lot of removal which tends to be independent of whether your minions synergize with it or not, for example, compared to things like Inner Fire or Rampage).
In order to be completely fair while being 100% random, the chances of picking decent cards must first be equal among all classes.
I just played as shaman and my starting hand was like bloodknight, windfury, 2xOverloadMurloc (4 Mana 2/5 shaman classcard)
Shaman isn't bad overall as far as class cards go. They have some ugly ones but so does everyone and shaman doesn't have a whole ton of them. The lack of solid aggro/combo style decks, meanwhile, help them as they face fewer weaknesses.
Though do note:
1. Shaman is not the best class in this brawl.
2. even if they were, it doesn't matter since brawl, by design, is NOT balanced. The goal is to find the broken combination before the brawl ends. It's not meant to be fair for all classes, or even any class.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
I found shaman to be terrible in this Brawl. But that may be because I just had terrible RNG both times I played it. A few Dust Devil [/card]s? thanks... at one point all I had were all the old overload cards that no-one plays anymore and I could not get anything going. THat being said, any class can be terrible or awesome since it is so RNG this brawl. It took me a while to get my first win. I have had a few where I have been close and a few where one or both of us sat there and played almost nothing for the ist 5 rounds since all my cards were 6+s. But having a mage with [card]Archmage AntondiasMalygos andArcane Blast made up for it!
It's almost COMPLETELY random. You're probably just unlucky. (or your opponents are lucky)
The rampant misuse of "literally" makes me figuratively want to pull my hair out. Nothing like broad sweeping generalizations with no support whatsoever to reinforce dubious claims. Jesus.
Side point: It's not really misuse of the word "literally," inasmuch as the first recorded instance of said 'misuse' is in none other than Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain: "By the afternoon, Tom was literally rolling in wealth." (It was 'misused' before that, as well, but in a slightly different way; it was used to mean "to the fullest extreme of the idea," not used to mean "figuratively" the way that Twain used it.) If a word has been used in a specific way for better than a century and in some of a culture's most historic and honored literature, I think you have to call on the 'common usage' rule and just bite the bullet.
Main point: Statistically speaking, Hearthstone has enough players and enough games that it's inevitable that someone, somewhere would lose 10 games in a row to OP Shaman Brawl decks. That's not terribly surprising. What it makes you wonder is how many people with similar experiences haven't come to HearthPwn to salt about it.
I looked at this card originally and I thought, you know, it's a card, and you play this card. The card will be that card that you play so you're playing a card. So, it is one thing to play a card. If you're opponent doesn't really have any cards, the card will screw up the card pretty hard, and that means it's a pretty good card.
I played vs shaman, and he/she only did 2 ponts of dmg..... (self inflicted with a weapon)....