It depends by the decks that u use. If u play mage/druid go for yogg (but it isn't good as before). If u prefer the CW or the control priest or control dragon pally craft ysera. I suggest you to craft ysera however because it's from the classic set
I haven't mentioned the other classes because they don't benefit too much from them.
However if u have the dust and u don't have thalnos go for him, he fits in every deck
Well thanks on your thoughts, well i've some of the CW using Yogg and some Ysera. So i'm just curious, which one of these two will benefit more on the CW deck.. :)
Yogg for sure even tho those 2 are not exactly comparable, completely different purposes. Rosty took top 1 legend this season with it for example and they all say Yogg CW is best atm (stronger than N'Zoth variant) cos of Shamans and all... Ysera doesn't see any play at all and it's bad for the meta
Well have you tried CW with Yogg? To me yes of course Ysera can be better than Yogg at times. But i find Ysera kinda slow, especially he gave you the Dream Card that youre not looking for. As for Yogg, what i can see is that he seems to give you an immediate result of a situation.. which is can be a bad or good situation that is. Like gambling mode haha!
cant wait for entomb gone so i can put ysera in my CW deck again. Now Yogg is just better. We need more control tools from the next expansion for control deck able slow the game down past turn 10 frequently then ysera will be played a lot more. She always be one of the best late game card, a semi win condition of her own.
But in all seriousness. I'm pretty sure Ysera is better for a normal CW. (Due to reliability, which is what you want in that deck)
Hahaha thanks for the attachment, it's entertaining and fun to watch those spells casted by Yogg.. Also I'm curious what do you mean by Normal CW? Hmm.
cant wait for entomb gone so i can put ysera in my CW deck again. Now Yogg is just better. We need more control tools from the next expansion for control deck able slow the game down past turn 10 frequently then ysera will be played a lot more. She always be one of the best late game card, a semi win condition of her own.
2 years, still long to go. Well thanks for the info. Ysera is good when she can survive for few turns and Yogg too when he cast some good secrets for you especially when you're at critical. But don't ever play Yogg when you had no cards in deck, due to sometimes he will force you to draw cards which is Fatigue damage can be very painful than getting hit by Ragna haha..
They are both ok cards and very different uses. Someone currently will put in Yogg as a last prayer at the game or board clear when lethal is imminent the next turn. Ysera will not save you in those situations as she is better for the cards she gives you, rather than the minion she is. I would pick Yogg over Ysera, even with the chance that Yogg fills your hand and astral communions it away or that he blasts himself in the face.
So if you have the lead: Ysera for sure, if you are behind/need a prayer? Yogg for sure. Making a deck where you aren't sure which side you'll be in? Play a few games and see if you're typically ahead/behind at turn 9/10.
As for rotating out, Ysera won't and Yogg will in a year and some time. @Shadowpuppts- BRM and TGT rotate out sometime after this year so they're rotating out much sooner than Yogg.
Well have you tried CW with Yogg? To me yes of course Ysera can be better than Yogg at times. But i find Ysera kinda slow, especially he gave you the Dream Card that youre not looking for. As for Yogg, what i can see is that he seems to give you an immediate result of a situation.. which is can be a bad or good situation that is. Like gambling mode haha!
Yes I did try it... really strong atm, obliterating Shamans absolutely. Ysera is very bad vs literally anything in the meta, I wouldn't use it even if you don't make Yogg at all, then I'd make some other CW variant like N'Zoth or something, or even "classic" one but with Alex, for sure not Ysera. It's extremely slow card that extremely rarely gets value and even if it does there are simply better cards for the deck.
No one uses Ysera for literally a year now since she is so slow and useless, either variants with Alexstrasza, N'Zoth build or Yogg. Ysera is really bad which you will see if you decide to make the same mistake I did and craft her.
As for Yogg it's not that much gamble tho, statistics still go very much in your favor and yeah it might happen that it kills itself but it won't happen on 1st spell, and even if it does shit happens it will win you much more than it loses unlike useless Ysera that is there just to get removed asap for cheap or get ignored while opponent kills your face. But again - if you play it right when opponent has more minions than you and all, pure probability is that it will be in your favor regardless of opinions about gambling and such.
Ofc no pro uses Ysera and most of them opt for Yogg variant in combo with Geddon to absolutely obliterate Shamans. Rosty for example made top 1 legend, Stancifka guy used that CW to legend with 15-1 vs Shamans which you can see on his twitter:
Here is the Rosty's top 1 list from this season (he had literally over 80% wr to top 1 which you can prob find in his past broadcasts on twitch since he streams, I watched it with my own eyes so it's not BS, and he did it while getting stream sniped, let alone if he was off-stream:
Anyways, GL whatever you decide!
Well thanks a lot mate! Appreciate for the informations and attachment. I used the exact deck list too but without Yogg. I guess I will try Yogg in it and see for myself haha..
They are both ok cards and very different uses. Someone currently will put in Yogg as a last prayer at the game or board clear when lethal is imminent the next turn. Ysera will not save you in those situations as she is better for the cards she gives you, rather than the minion she is. I would pick Yogg over Ysera, even with the chance that Yogg fills your hand and astral communions it away or that he blasts himself in the face.
So if you have the lead: Ysera for sure, if you are behind/need a prayer? Yogg for sure. Making a deck where you aren't sure which side you'll be in? Play a few games and see if you're typically ahead/behind at turn 9/10.
As for rotating out, Ysera won't and Yogg will in a year and some time. @Shadowpuppts- BRM and TGT rotate out sometime after this year so they're rotating out much sooner than Yogg.
Thank you melacine. Everything you said is kinda true.. I've tried playing with ysera and i find it kinda slow. Especially the first dream card you get is not the one you dream of. And more sadden is you hoping it to survive next turn for another dream card but already remove by enemy immediately. ;(
Yogg is better than ysera, Ysera is way too overrated people still remember pre-naxx hs with no expansions when the emrald dragon could snowball a game, well she doesn't do that anymore, on paper she still can but the actualy ugly truth is that on practice she won't do it.
One different argument that I think is unsaid here. Yersa is amazing at blocking. Cthun damage gets decreased. If mage plays flamewalker. Worked for me. Late game people sometimes concede when Yersa is played.
Yogg good for prayer. But don't want to play it while ahead or late game... And maybe not on empty board and sometimes bad on optimal time to play it. People remember flashy comebacks, but don't count how many times is dead card or hindered by it.
Empty board or late game Yersa is better. I have golden warrior and never regret having it.
As for pros playing it, who know if he be just as successful with Yersa.
Let's see meta is mostly shaman, turn 10 you are out of removals and topdeck your legendary and it's ysera. you play her and feel awesome about it. If you're lucky you won't die the next turn and it'll just get hexed. Yogg is the better option right now specially with the pressure decks like druid and shaman are putting nowadays. Usually it'll only clear the board but sometimes it could outright win you the game. Ysera is good in control match ups like priest which you won't play much and it's a bad MU anyway. At least you can turn Yogg into another legendary with Elise If you're winning.
Let's see meta is mostly shaman, turn 10 you are out of removals and topdeck your legendary and it's ysera. you play her and feel awesome about it. If you're lucky you won't die the next turn and it'll just get hexed. Yogg is the better option right now specially with the pressure decks like druid and shaman are putting nowadays. Usually it'll only clear the board but sometimes it could outright win you the game. Ysera is good in control match ups like priest which you won't play much and it's a bad MU anyway. At least you can turn Yogg into another legendary with Elise If you're winning.
Well true mate! I've already replaced my Ysera with Yogg.. Such a turntable card which can gives you unpredictable result. But its kinda fun tho, even when Yogg killed himself. I'll usually laughed at him cos its too hilarious hahaha! But there's a point in a game against a Cthun deck. I purposely play my Yogg even when i had my Golden Monkey in hand. Surprisingly during his performance on board, Yogg gave me some mage's spells and one of it is Polymoth. Which i used it to its Cthun, its so funny...
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Dear Hearthstoners,
Well i'm here just want to hear some of you guys thoughts or opinions or advices..
Which one of these, Yogg/Ysera better to be in a control warrior deck?
Have fun hearthstoning peeps! ;)
Ysera is better. Espacially she is in classic Set.
Yogg out in 2 year.
cant wait for entomb gone so i can put ysera in my CW deck again. Now Yogg is just better. We need more control tools from the next expansion for control deck able slow the game down past turn 10 frequently then ysera will be played a lot more. She always be one of the best late game card, a semi win condition of her own.
This was today. What Yogg nerf?
But in all seriousness. I'm pretty sure Ysera is better for a normal CW. (Due to reliability, which is what you want in that deck)
Normal mean not Nzoth or YOgg.
They are both ok cards and very different uses. Someone currently will put in Yogg as a last prayer at the game or board clear when lethal is imminent the next turn. Ysera will not save you in those situations as she is better for the cards she gives you, rather than the minion she is. I would pick Yogg over Ysera, even with the chance that Yogg fills your hand and astral communions it away or that he blasts himself in the face.
So if you have the lead: Ysera for sure, if you are behind/need a prayer? Yogg for sure. Making a deck where you aren't sure which side you'll be in? Play a few games and see if you're typically ahead/behind at turn 9/10.
As for rotating out, Ysera won't and Yogg will in a year and some time. @Shadowpuppts- BRM and TGT rotate out sometime after this year so they're rotating out much sooner than Yogg.
Toymachine with the facts and proof.
Yogg is better than ysera, Ysera is way too overrated people still remember pre-naxx hs with no expansions when the emrald dragon could snowball a game, well she doesn't do that anymore, on paper she still can but the actualy ugly truth is that on practice she won't do it.
I knw its totally Offtopic but ... just 2 mins ago this happened:-
check the attachment
RNG has spoken. Ysera is winner!
One different argument that I think is unsaid here. Yersa is amazing at blocking. Cthun damage gets decreased. If mage plays flamewalker. Worked for me. Late game people sometimes concede when Yersa is played.
Yogg good for prayer. But don't want to play it while ahead or late game... And maybe not on empty board and sometimes bad on optimal time to play it. People remember flashy comebacks, but don't count how many times is dead card or hindered by it.
Empty board or late game Yersa is better. I have golden warrior and never regret having it.
As for pros playing it, who know if he be just as successful with Yersa.
Let's see meta is mostly shaman, turn 10 you are out of removals and topdeck your legendary and it's ysera. you play her and feel awesome about it. If you're lucky you won't die the next turn and it'll just get hexed. Yogg is the better option right now specially with the pressure decks like druid and shaman are putting nowadays. Usually it'll only clear the board but sometimes it could outright win you the game. Ysera is good in control match ups like priest which you won't play much and it's a bad MU anyway. At least you can turn Yogg into another legendary with Elise If you're winning.
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