As we have all seen with Year of the Dragon and rotation that Druid is an unplayable class
It about "unplayable" part he said. Also mana gain cards were strong effects from day one but there wasn't anything that could cover the down side. Now we have more cards and mana gain is at the right place (there is just no decks that can fit into new meta).
I would say it's too early to tell. I hope that Druid turns out to be the new Rogue going forward. We all know that Rogue will always "find a way" to be relavent. It might just take some time to figure Druid it out. I agree with all the nerfs and am optimistic that Druid is going in a healthy new direction. It is hard for me to believe that Druid can ever be the worst class in Hearthstone given all the flexible cards it has access to. Wardruid Loti is one of the most flexible cards in the game in a vacuum. Creative deck builders will figure this out.
ancient of lore would be weak even if it draw 2 or heal 10 right now. it was good because there were no other good alternatives for drawing cards in vanilla. the problem is they have overnerfed him. they should have nerfed just 1 of those cards but they nerfed both.
Token Druid is super strong, you just have to play it a few times to realize how good it is. The lack of AOEs really makes this a good meta for swarm decks.
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As of right now on hs replay token Driud is the number one deck in the meta with a winrate about 2% higher than bomb warrior. This druid list is very in line with the way classic druid used to play before getting all of their op cards. I'm guessing you've only been around long enough to see the ridiculous armor control druid but that's just not what classic druid has traditionally been about. This form of druid is the way druid is suppose to play and its very powerful with a lack of board clears atm.
As of right now on hs replay token Driud is the number one deck in the meta with a winrate about 2% higher than bomb warrior. This druid list is very in line with the way classic druid used to play before getting all of their op cards. I'm guessing you've only been around long enough to see the ridiculous armor control druid but that's just not what classic druid has traditionally been about. This form of druid is the way druid is suppose to play and its very powerful with a lack of board clears atm.
yeah I was gonna say. theres 2 token druid decks right now and they're both really good. (theres a more expensive one that doesn't use the new spell, but uses both new legendaries and then the one everyones playing)
I'm actually gonna craft the last few cards for it later as I like that old school style token druid gameplay. something different for me at least.
also I like all the bright colours in the artwork and stuff, it's different to what I'm used to, so going for it. ha ha.
Seems like Token Druid has a 57% win rate (current #1) according to https://hsreplay.net/meta/ . The top 2 tiers are 1 druid deck, 2 warrior decks, 1 rogue deck, 2 shaman decks, 2 hunter decks, and 1 warlock deck. Granted it's early to draw solid conclusions regarding the ROS meta, but druid doesn't seem to be in a bad place. If you favor control decks then yes druid is not looking strong yet, but if you don't mind aggro then druid seems okay IMO.
great so play aggro or don´t even bother right? just because a class has one (1) good deck doesnt mean the class is playable not everyone wants to play braindead aggro shit some people want to experiment or try out things but without any support for other archetypes that work your forced to play this deck or don´t expect to win which to me means unplayable class cause diversity is much more fun than netdecking the same deck as everyone else
As of right now on hs replay token Driud is the number one deck in the meta with a winrate about 2% higher than bomb warrior. This druid list is very in line with the way classic druid used to play before getting all of their op cards. I'm guessing you've only been around long enough to see the ridiculous armor control druid but that's just not what classic druid has traditionally been about. This form of druid is the way druid is suppose to play
also I like all the bright colours in the artwork and stuff, it's different to what I'm used to, so going for it. ha ha.
One of the best feelings. When a deck feels good and LOOKS good lol.
great so play aggro or don´t even bother right? just because a class has one (1) good deck doesnt mean the class is playable not everyone wants to play braindead aggro shit some people want to experiment or try out things but without any support for other archetypes that work your forced to play this deck or don´t expect to win which to me means unplayable class cause diversity is much more fun than netdecking the same deck as everyone else
Facts they nerfed druid into oblivion idc about token druid i play wild and on wild druid is fucked necause of the nerfs. It was already mad bullshit they nerfed avaiana and they went ahead and nerfed wild growth??? Why?
Facts they nerfed druid into oblivion idc about token druid i play wild and on wild druid is fucked necause of the nerfs. It was already mad bullshit they nerfed avaiana and they went ahead and nerfed wild growth??? Why?
I can see it being annoying. a friend of mine that used to play a lot of taunt druid and stuff as well is having a bad time as his decks are all terrible now.
I'm just glad i started playing more rogue than warlock, or I'd be in a similar place right now (for standard at least) I assume you can still build a classic control lock in wild.
Token druid does look pretty cool though, I wouldn't completely dismiss it. I mean if you don't like mid range decks then it might not be for you, I happen to love mid range and tempo though so it's perfect for me.
great so play aggro or don´t even bother right? just because a class has one (1) good deck doesnt mean the class is playable not everyone wants to play braindead aggro shit some people want to experiment or try out things but without any support for other archetypes that work your forced to play this deck or don´t expect to win which to me means unplayable class cause diversity is much more fun than netdecking the same deck as everyone else
From you post history all you have been complaining about is that there isnt a midrange druid deck that's good. But the token druid is exactly that. It's not an aggro deck and its anything but brainless. It's pretty obvious that you havent even tried it before dismissing it.
great so play aggro or don´t even bother right? just because a class has one (1) good deck doesnt mean the class is playable not everyone wants to play braindead aggro shit some people want to experiment or try out things but without any support for other archetypes that work your forced to play this deck or don´t expect to win which to me means unplayable class cause diversity is much more fun than netdecking the same deck as everyone else
I would argue Druid only had one good deck before, it just had like 6 win condition packages to choose from. Other than that the other 24 cards and gameplay were the same.
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It about "unplayable" part he said. Also mana gain cards were strong effects from day one but there wasn't anything that could cover the down side. Now we have more cards and mana gain is at the right place (there is just no decks that can fit into new meta).
I would say it's too early to tell. I hope that Druid turns out to be the new Rogue going forward. We all know that Rogue will always "find a way" to be relavent. It might just take some time to figure Druid it out. I agree with all the nerfs and am optimistic that Druid is going in a healthy new direction. It is hard for me to believe that Druid can ever be the worst class in Hearthstone given all the flexible cards it has access to. Wardruid Loti is one of the most flexible cards in the game in a vacuum. Creative deck builders will figure this out.
ancient of lore would be weak even if it draw 2 or heal 10 right now. it was good because there were no other good alternatives for drawing cards in vanilla. the problem is they have overnerfed him. they should have nerfed just 1 of those cards but they nerfed both.
Token Druid is super strong, you just have to play it a few times to realize how good it is. The lack of AOEs really makes this a good meta for swarm decks.
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Druid: unplayable
Also druid: 58% win rate deck- higher than bomb warrior
Rump druid decks are now unplayable, so yes, that was the bad decision.
As of right now on hs replay token Driud is the number one deck in the meta with a winrate about 2% higher than bomb warrior. This druid list is very in line with the way classic druid used to play before getting all of their op cards. I'm guessing you've only been around long enough to see the ridiculous armor control druid but that's just not what classic druid has traditionally been about. This form of druid is the way druid is suppose to play and its very powerful with a lack of board clears atm.
yeah I was gonna say. theres 2 token druid decks right now and they're both really good. (theres a more expensive one that doesn't use the new spell, but uses both new legendaries and then the one everyones playing)
I'm actually gonna craft the last few cards for it later as I like that old school style token druid gameplay. something different for me at least.
also I like all the bright colours in the artwork and stuff, it's different to what I'm used to, so going for it. ha ha.
Druid nerfs were PERFECT. Go play token druid.
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Seems like Token Druid has a 57% win rate (current #1) according to https://hsreplay.net/meta/ . The top 2 tiers are 1 druid deck, 2 warrior decks, 1 rogue deck, 2 shaman decks, 2 hunter decks, and 1 warlock deck. Granted it's early to draw solid conclusions regarding the ROS meta, but druid doesn't seem to be in a bad place. If you favor control decks then yes druid is not looking strong yet, but if you don't mind aggro then druid seems okay IMO.
No they weren't, druid is playable, just not as op
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great so play aggro or don´t even bother right? just because a class has one (1) good deck doesnt mean the class is playable not everyone wants to play braindead aggro shit some people want to experiment or try out things but without any support for other archetypes that work your forced to play this deck or don´t expect to win which to me means unplayable class cause diversity is much more fun than netdecking the same deck as everyone else
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One of the best feelings. When a deck feels good and LOOKS good lol.
Facts they nerfed druid into oblivion idc about token druid i play wild and on wild druid is fucked necause of the nerfs. It was already mad bullshit they nerfed avaiana and they went ahead and nerfed wild growth??? Why?
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I can see it being annoying. a friend of mine that used to play a lot of taunt druid and stuff as well is having a bad time as his decks are all terrible now.
I'm just glad i started playing more rogue than warlock, or I'd be in a similar place right now (for standard at least) I assume you can still build a classic control lock in wild.
Token druid does look pretty cool though, I wouldn't completely dismiss it. I mean if you don't like mid range decks then it might not be for you, I happen to love mid range and tempo though so it's perfect for me.
From you post history all you have been complaining about is that there isnt a midrange druid deck that's good. But the token druid is exactly that. It's not an aggro deck and its anything but brainless. It's pretty obvious that you havent even tried it before dismissing it.
I would argue Druid only had one good deck before, it just had like 6 win condition packages to choose from. Other than that the other 24 cards and gameplay were the same.