Control Killer Control Warlock
- Last updated May 22, 2018 (Spiteful Nerf)
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 11 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Control Warlock
- Crafting Cost: 9800
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 12/8/2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Introduction
Hello, and welcome to my very first deck guide. Even though I've been legend rank lots of times, I'm a lazy piece of shit to do any kind of guides around here. But this time It's different because I made a really good deck that is a nightmare to control decks. I played around 35-40 matches by now and i have over %80 win rate (%100 against control matchups), currently residing in rank 5. Started from rank 16.
About the Deck
As you can see, the deck is a Kobolds version of a standart Control Warlock from KoTF meta. Instead of Lich King, Abyssal Enforcer's and other small changes, i added some new OP cards, most notably Master Oakheart . It works almost same way as before, the only gamechanger is Rin, the First Disciple and I will come to that card now.
Rin is not for fun!
When i first saw Rin, the First Disciple , I thought, oh my god what a slow card. This would never see any play. But..... fortunately after my Day 1 decktesting results, i understood that you should'nt judge a book by its cover. Rin had won me so many games that you cant even imagine. Yes, it's slow. Yes It takes so long. But even discarding your opponent's last 4 cards is worth it. You lose so much tempo with the seals, but with twisting nethers and doomsayers you are able to neutralize the tempo, and win the heavy control matchup's with Azari!. Against aggro, it's bad. But You are not forced to play the seals. you can just keep Rin as a taunt minion with bad stats and win the game by other win conditions.
Important / New Card Explanations
Vulgar Homunculus : yay, Voidwalker on steroids. Masterpiece stats, amazing against aggro, can be recruited from Master Oakheart respectfully.
Fungal Enchanter : A sweet farewell to a veteran card, Earthen Ring Farseer . It's just tons of times better. AoE heal really saves your tempo for minion trades .
Rin, the First Disciple : Almost Auto-Win against heavy control match-ups. Can be recruited from Master Oakheart respectfully.
Master Oakheart : The game-winner, the card that this deck is almost built on, the value maker... OAKHEART! You can play 25 mana worth minions to your board with just one card. It's like Ultimate Infestation of Warlock. It's incredible. Amazing win condition. You basically DRAW and PLAY Tar Creeper , Vulgar Homunculus and Voidlord and a 5-5 minion for just 9 mana. Absolutely incredible...
Voidlord : Not a very good card by itself, but amazing synergy with Master Oakheart and Bloodreaver Gul'dan
Why am I not playing these ?
Voidwalker : Vulgar Homunculus is a better replacement because Voidwalker can mess up the value of Master Oakheart
Tar Lurker : Seems like a good combo for Oakheart. But it isn't a Demon and you basically play 1 attack minion for 5 mana when you draw it. Breaks the tempo slightly.
Abyssal Enforcer : We have much more important demons to play
Mountain Giant : Too old-school. Has no synergy whatsoever, and we have lots of low cost minions to play early game.
11.12.2017 Deck Updated
After a lot of deck testing with your suggestions and my researches i have made huge improvements that i hope you will like. I still think that the old version is really strong, but this one is a little bit better. In terms of survival and denial.
-1 Doomsayer
-1 Hellfire
Tried it and it ROCKS!
Kobold Librarian : Oh my god, how did I miss this card. I feel so idiotic for nut putting him before. You draw card for almost free and its a 2/1 minion! It's a MUST on every Warlock deck. Also has a good synergy with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone
Lesser Amethyst Spellstone : This was the first suggestion i got to put it in the deck, and I did. I just didnt like it before i rarely dealt damage to myself so it was mostly a 4 mana 3 damage lifesteal and it was meh. Then fortunately I met with Kobold Librarian and all of my ideas changed. Spellstone is a huge value that cant be ignored.
Tried it and it SUCKS!
Skull of the Man'ari : I really wanted to like this card. I really did. I experimented this a lot. But no. This deck already has very slow tempo and can't accept a "future invesment" for 5 mana. Seriously, against aggro you cant even play it. Also it automatically plays Azari, the Devourer and even though playing a free 10/10 seems good, not triggering his battlecry really removes the fun and efficiency.
The Darkness : JUST NO! I replaced this card with 1 Twilight Drake as suggested in the comments. And I hated every minute of it. Also, gonna say the same thing. This deck has really slow tempo. And against control match up's its already amazing. But against aggro it struggles. And you want to struggle more with Dormant minion (basically four dead mana and a card) instead of a possibly 4/8 drake ? No way. If this deck is played properly, you are already godlike in lategame. Darkness is just way too greedy and I can't accept it.
Arcane Tyrant : I'm not gonna lie, It's an amazing card. And also has good synergy with this deck. But from my testing results i mostly draw this and wait for siphon souls and twisting nethers, So I just keep 6 mana 4/4 minion in my life for eternity. In late game it becomes useful, but i still think Twilight Drake is better, even though It's almost a tie between them. If I played Medivh, the Guardian then it would be amazing but sadly Control Warlock meta accepts either Oakheart or Medivh win conditions and you cant combine them together efficiently.
As promised, MULLIGANS!
Rogue: Doomsayer ,Vulgar Homunculus, Twilight Drake, Kobold Librarian / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Warrior: Doomsayer , Twilight Drake, Vulgar Homunculus , Kobold Librarian / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Druid: Doomsayer , Twilight Drake, Vulgar Homunculus, Kobold Librarian / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Paladin: Doomsayer , Vulgar Homunculus , Twilight Drake, Kobold Librarian , Defile / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Priest; Twilight Drake , Kobold Librarian
Warlock: Mortal Coil , Kobold Librarian , Doomsayer , / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Mage: Doomsayer , Kobold Librarian , Mistress of Mixtures / you can keep Twilight Drake if your hand is already good.
Shaman: Not enough data (will be updated according to meta)
Hunter: Doomsayer , Defile , Drain Soul , Vulgar Homunculus , Twilight Drake
This was the most popular deck I could make filtered for wild, spiteful nerf, decks I can make & filtered by popularity. I'm not normally a huge Warlock fan but I am a fan of expensive decks so at 9k plus I was eager to try this deck out.
So far I've only played three matches but my last match was enough to convince me to leave a comment. The reason that is I have failed to use Rin in a huge number of Warlock decks I have tried in the past. This is the first deck that it worked. Allow me to go into detail about the matches..
Match 1 - Kingsbane Rogue - I HATE this deck with a burning passion. Words can't explain it. Since this was my first match with a new deck against the deck I hate the most I fully expected to lose. I did, but I learned from my mistakes.
Match 2 - Kingsbane Rogue - Of course I would go against another Rogue for my 2nd match with a new deck. Rather than give in to my rage and give this deck a down vote I decided to apply my knowledge from the prior match & see what happens. This time around I burned every useless spell that I had. Defile, Mortal Coil, Drail Soul... I burned the hell out of those spells even playing them on an empty board when I had nothing else to play. I didn't want to give the Rogue a single opportunity to mill my deck. I either got really lucky or they had a terrible deck but they first sent my Rin back to my hand and then after I played Oakheart they conceded.. felt good.
Match 3 - Evolve Shaman - By all accounts I should have lost this match. They played their DK early & on a pretty full board, they even evolved a minion into Ranganos. Lucky for me they were reckless with their hex & had no answer for my voidlord or Rin. For the first time in playing I actually used Rin to mill over 13 cards from their deck. The next two turns I used Twisting Nether followed by more removal for the next 4 turns. (I had played my DK a few turns prior so the whole time I was also putting pressure on them). They didn't concede but I beat them with no cards left in my deck and full health.
Don't know the long term potential for this deck but so far.. I like it. Great work.
Follow up.. Game #4 against warrior.
Managed to kill 14 cards of his deck and played DK next turn.. Filled the board with all Rin's children including the 10/10.. He conceded and of course told me that he would crush me. Love it!
How liberal can one be with the hero power?
are you mad? the hell are you smoking
"Very"
I'm liking this list the most out of the control lock lists I've tried thusfar in the expansion. The two drakes have been great for me. I've got two questions, though: I'm having trouble timing my Gul'dan. The ideal situation is to get both voidlords back, but this list has quite a few demons, especially once the voidlords die. What is the best way to ensure maximum value when playing the DK?
Also, as said in the top, playing Rin and the seals is definitely is a huge loss in tempo, but at what point should I go all out and play the seals? I've had quite a few games where I'm just clearing what the other guy plays and it doesn't leave me with enough mana to play seals, or I would immediately fall behind. There's just some games where I can't play Rin until near fatigue, and it's mostly to get minions on the board. I assume that I shouldn't be trying to destroy the other deck each game, if I can't afford to, or am I doing something wrong altogether?
Dont be so greedy, Use guldan as soon as possible, prefrably after one voidlord dies, the 3 dmg and lifesteal can give you a lot of pressure after that.
use it when you cant use any othert thing for filler, or just mess up your tempo if the opponent is playing heavy control deck.
I'm only missing Rin and Oakheart for the deck but I only have enough dust for 1 legendary, should I be crafting Oakheart or Rin first?
They are both mandatory, but if you desperatly need an answer i'd go with Oakheart
Greetings guys!
I was really hesitating with crafting the Rin and the Voidlords since it is a lot of dust but I decided that I will give it a shot and I cant say that I would regret it. The seal thingy is nice addition to the control style of warlock I really like!
In the video bellow you can see a match versus a razakus dragon priest (apparently it is the new version of it) which I managed to win after such a long fight! I have to say that when you play these control lists after some time - lets be honest control was not here for a while - you are way more likely to get to situations where you have A LOT of options. Sometime I feel I could even use 5 minutes to think about everything.
I hope you can enjoy that video guys and have a nice day :)
Could you update the mulligan since you changed quite significant cards in that section. Thanks for the elaborate deck guide though :)
Can I sub Thalnos for Tainted Zealot?
Of course you can
which rank this deck is max?
Depends upon your skill and knowledge of the meta. Ladderis kind of random horseshit right now. It's so unpredictable. I'm also trying other decks or better alternative cards for this deck. But it's a tier 1 deck and can go to legend in my opinion.
Arcane Tyrant would work well in this deck, I can see you have tried them but if I wanted to use them what could you take out?
Tried Twilight Drake myself. It's not a bad replacement. I didnt do bad with arcane tyrant but i dont feel so much comfortable with it.
Comments like this makes me so happy, keep on rocking bro and thank you!
Voidwalker maybe ?