Control Killer Control Warlock
- Last updated May 22, 2018 (Spiteful Nerf)
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 11 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Control Warlock
- Crafting Cost: 9800
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 12/8/2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Introduction
Hello, and welcome to my very first deck guide. Even though I've been legend rank lots of times, I'm a lazy piece of shit to do any kind of guides around here. But this time It's different because I made a really good deck that is a nightmare to control decks. I played around 35-40 matches by now and i have over %80 win rate (%100 against control matchups), currently residing in rank 5. Started from rank 16.
About the Deck
As you can see, the deck is a Kobolds version of a standart Control Warlock from KoTF meta. Instead of Lich King, Abyssal Enforcer's and other small changes, i added some new OP cards, most notably Master Oakheart . It works almost same way as before, the only gamechanger is Rin, the First Disciple and I will come to that card now.
Rin is not for fun!
When i first saw Rin, the First Disciple , I thought, oh my god what a slow card. This would never see any play. But..... fortunately after my Day 1 decktesting results, i understood that you should'nt judge a book by its cover. Rin had won me so many games that you cant even imagine. Yes, it's slow. Yes It takes so long. But even discarding your opponent's last 4 cards is worth it. You lose so much tempo with the seals, but with twisting nethers and doomsayers you are able to neutralize the tempo, and win the heavy control matchup's with Azari!. Against aggro, it's bad. But You are not forced to play the seals. you can just keep Rin as a taunt minion with bad stats and win the game by other win conditions.
Important / New Card Explanations
Vulgar Homunculus : yay, Voidwalker on steroids. Masterpiece stats, amazing against aggro, can be recruited from Master Oakheart respectfully.
Fungal Enchanter : A sweet farewell to a veteran card, Earthen Ring Farseer . It's just tons of times better. AoE heal really saves your tempo for minion trades .
Rin, the First Disciple : Almost Auto-Win against heavy control match-ups. Can be recruited from Master Oakheart respectfully.
Master Oakheart : The game-winner, the card that this deck is almost built on, the value maker... OAKHEART! You can play 25 mana worth minions to your board with just one card. It's like Ultimate Infestation of Warlock. It's incredible. Amazing win condition. You basically DRAW and PLAY Tar Creeper , Vulgar Homunculus and Voidlord and a 5-5 minion for just 9 mana. Absolutely incredible...
Voidlord : Not a very good card by itself, but amazing synergy with Master Oakheart and Bloodreaver Gul'dan
Why am I not playing these ?
Voidwalker : Vulgar Homunculus is a better replacement because Voidwalker can mess up the value of Master Oakheart
Tar Lurker : Seems like a good combo for Oakheart. But it isn't a Demon and you basically play 1 attack minion for 5 mana when you draw it. Breaks the tempo slightly.
Abyssal Enforcer : We have much more important demons to play
Mountain Giant : Too old-school. Has no synergy whatsoever, and we have lots of low cost minions to play early game.
11.12.2017 Deck Updated
After a lot of deck testing with your suggestions and my researches i have made huge improvements that i hope you will like. I still think that the old version is really strong, but this one is a little bit better. In terms of survival and denial.
-1 Doomsayer
-1 Hellfire
Tried it and it ROCKS!
Kobold Librarian : Oh my god, how did I miss this card. I feel so idiotic for nut putting him before. You draw card for almost free and its a 2/1 minion! It's a MUST on every Warlock deck. Also has a good synergy with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone
Lesser Amethyst Spellstone : This was the first suggestion i got to put it in the deck, and I did. I just didnt like it before i rarely dealt damage to myself so it was mostly a 4 mana 3 damage lifesteal and it was meh. Then fortunately I met with Kobold Librarian and all of my ideas changed. Spellstone is a huge value that cant be ignored.
Tried it and it SUCKS!
Skull of the Man'ari : I really wanted to like this card. I really did. I experimented this a lot. But no. This deck already has very slow tempo and can't accept a "future invesment" for 5 mana. Seriously, against aggro you cant even play it. Also it automatically plays Azari, the Devourer and even though playing a free 10/10 seems good, not triggering his battlecry really removes the fun and efficiency.
The Darkness : JUST NO! I replaced this card with 1 Twilight Drake as suggested in the comments. And I hated every minute of it. Also, gonna say the same thing. This deck has really slow tempo. And against control match up's its already amazing. But against aggro it struggles. And you want to struggle more with Dormant minion (basically four dead mana and a card) instead of a possibly 4/8 drake ? No way. If this deck is played properly, you are already godlike in lategame. Darkness is just way too greedy and I can't accept it.
Arcane Tyrant : I'm not gonna lie, It's an amazing card. And also has good synergy with this deck. But from my testing results i mostly draw this and wait for siphon souls and twisting nethers, So I just keep 6 mana 4/4 minion in my life for eternity. In late game it becomes useful, but i still think Twilight Drake is better, even though It's almost a tie between them. If I played Medivh, the Guardian then it would be amazing but sadly Control Warlock meta accepts either Oakheart or Medivh win conditions and you cant combine them together efficiently.
As promised, MULLIGANS!
Rogue: Doomsayer ,Vulgar Homunculus, Twilight Drake, Kobold Librarian / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Warrior: Doomsayer , Twilight Drake, Vulgar Homunculus , Kobold Librarian / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Druid: Doomsayer , Twilight Drake, Vulgar Homunculus, Kobold Librarian / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Paladin: Doomsayer , Vulgar Homunculus , Twilight Drake, Kobold Librarian , Defile / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Priest; Twilight Drake , Kobold Librarian
Warlock: Mortal Coil , Kobold Librarian , Doomsayer , / If you already have kobold keep Lesser Amethyst Spellstone and Mistress of Mixtures
Mage: Doomsayer , Kobold Librarian , Mistress of Mixtures / you can keep Twilight Drake if your hand is already good.
Shaman: Not enough data (will be updated according to meta)
Hunter: Doomsayer , Defile , Drain Soul , Vulgar Homunculus , Twilight Drake
There is no "replacement" for that card. It's the only 1 mana card that have so much stalling value, there may be no replacement, just other good cards. It doesnt have to be a 1 mana minion or have to give health. Maybe Tainted Zealot or Arcane Tyrant .
by the time she rotates, there will be something else for the spot. when the old cards go we will have like 2 new sets or something.. at least 1.
THE DECK IS UPDATED !!
Thanks to everyone who supported and enjoyed this deck, I will update this weekly and try to answer every question. You guys rock!
Thank you! Glad you got your value there.Keep on ROCKING!
Dirty Rat wouldnt be "over" Vulgar. Vulgar is a must. I'm just not a huge fan of Dirty Rat. And I dont think it has a good tempo except in control warrior.
my deck is very similar to yours actually.
also, how are the twilight drakes doing for you? I have been running 2 x arcane tyrant for tempo swings during seals. pretty good.
EDIT: I have both medivh and oakheart at the minute. you reckon I need to take one out then? I also run skull as well. my deck pretty much has everything in it. I did take out oakheart, but put him back in as I usually either play skull or rin, and when I play rin I think oakheart can help.
I might craft some twilights and 1 doomsayer with the dust I have though and try your method.
would love to hear more on this if you have the time.
also my deck is in my sig if you'd like to give any advice on it. thanks.
Medivh and Oakheart together is very very slow at the moment. Because Medivh Control W and Oakheart Control W are two seperate decks. because they are two main win conditions and if you put those together you have almost no chance against aggro. I removed 1 doomsayer but doomsayer is a must in my opinion. By the way i updated the deck, you can check it. I reviewed some of the cards on YOUR deck too. have fun.
was it you that just commented about there being 4 versions of control lock right now? it would be cool to get some deck examples if this is the case, it would help me out a lot in learning the class better.
this is my first go at control decks you see, I usually play tempo or mid range.
Any replacements for Bloodmage Thalnos?
Yep.
Well twisting nether + doomsayer combo is enough to gain tempo. On 10 manaAfter board clear you have doomsayer on board, he mostly comes out alive and then you can play 2-2 and 3-3 seals. The ones that have horrible stats for their mana. the other ones arent really slows your tempo alot. But its a nice thought. I will try it.
Is there any replacements for Rin? i only have dust to craft either her or BR Gul'dan .
I'd say not this deck is mainly about 3 cards [card]Master Oakheart[/card] Voidlord & [card]Rin, the First Disciple[/card]. I've seen people replace Rin with [card]The Darkness[/card] for a similar effect, but that leaves you in the same situation.
I dont recommend it. But you can replace it with abyssal enforcer i guess ? It will be more solid against aggro but you lose so much against control match ups.
I need to craft me some doomsayers so I can try this. I could probs make the 800 dust by D/E'ing some bits and bobs, but would really like to stop dusting stuff if pos. I guess I could dust a bunch of golden commons or something.
I don't normally comment on decks but wanted to say thanks for it. Nice job! I made one change to it that screws with Razakus decks and that is to replace 1 x Twilight Drake with 1 x The Darkness.
I love when they put down Raza on turn 5 without realizing that they have duplicates and they go "Wow" to my "Greetings".
I keep pulling fungal enchanter with oakheart, should it be replaced with something?
edit: saw your comment further down the post, idk how to delete comment
I think you can replace it with Shroom Brewer
I really enjoy making priests cry with this deck :)
Is oakheart worth crafting?