Un'Goro *CHEAT MAGE* (80% Win) + Guide and QA
- Last updated Apr 23, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Wild
- 13 Minions
- 17 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: TTK Mage
- Crafting Cost: 9400
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 4/7/2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
- DonDenizo
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Battle Tag:
Freakout#2174
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Region:
EU
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Total Deck Rating
179
Update:
(Made a priest deck to fight the shitload of aggro in the ladder and still very good lategame!
Check it out here : http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/818041-aggro-value-priest)
Hi i am Doni, a legend player from Germany.
I refined the TTK-Version of the Deck as it was posted on the front wall.
So far, try it out and comment pls!
(As always with release meta will change and the deck is under construction, but this list seems to be very consistent).
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UPDATE:
I will stream on a regular base now.(Ranked play, Arena ,Deckbuilding + Refine)
Follow me on twitch for more information!
Thanks for the upvotes!I got you some guidance!
IN-DEPTH-GUIDE:
First, don't underestimate the mechanics in this deck, it has a high skill cap and good knowledge about how to play against every single class is needed to be successful with it!
Mulligan:
Against Hunter, Zoo, Aggro Warrior, Quest Shaman (Mainly AGGRO)
Bubbling Book,Glyph,Tempest,Volcanic potion,Doomsayer
Against Priest,Taunt Warrior,Handlock (Mainly CONTROL)
Kabal,Arcane Intellect,Glyph,Tempest
VS. EVERY MATCHUP:
It is heavily needed to get the most value out of the Random/Chosen spells from the generators and to try and stall the game until you got the TTK or another possibility to kill your opponent.
THE QUEST:
It's not always good to play the quest in the first turn.
If you don't have the coin (because it actually counts towards your quest!!!111!), it is considerable to play early minions like Babbling Book BEFORE you play the quest especially against aggro so always ADAPT your game to the class you're playing against and be AWARE.
I also saw a lot of people "rushing" the quest and ending up with an extra turn but no combo pieces, this most likely will lose you a shit ton of games as you dont get value from your spells if you just "waste" them.
THE TTK-COMBO:
You need at least 1 Arcane Giant 1 Molten Reflection and Alexzstrasa + the extra turn!
Play the giant, copy him and get the extra turn.
In the extra turn play Alex and finish him with your two big bros!
THIS IS THE PERFECT CASE, there is a vastly amount of opportunities in this deck and again i can't stretch this enough, this deck is about Adaptation. ;-)
(The guide is still under construction, if you have special questions about how to play against different archetypes please post in the comment section and i'll do my best to give you some insight.)
To come:
-Tech choices
-Archetype playing
"Save your cards.
Be aware of whats happening.
Finish with TTK!"
Any Q's in th comments will be answered!Give some input!
If you like the deck/guide i always appreciate an upvote for the work done here.
Updates:
9/04/2017
Decks got faster (or people slowly learn how to play them =D ) i recommend another volcanic - i took the ice barrier out for that.
10/04/2017
After playing the deck extensively the last 2 days i have some stats for you:
Druid 1-0
Hunter 5-6
Mage 3-3
No Palas (lol)
Priest 7-1
Rogue 10-5
Shaman 7-3
Warlock 6-3
Warrior 4-7
Overall 43-28 which is about 60-65%
So it couldn't hold the 80% from the first day, but i think its still a reasonable winrate and its just ultra fun to play!
I will keep you updated about the card changes i make and will finish the guide soon!
11/04/2017
As we're drifting into aggro meta again (besides taunt-warr) i have put the ice barrier back in again and took a kabal out (as it is the most unstable card in the deck right now)
Other cards that were suggested:
Mukla- Actually i dont think this card is viable in this deck.
Here are the reasons:
1. VS aggro you often want to use blizz in turn 6 and mukla is a 6 drop too so you wont get him out in that case.
2.VS. Aggro as you dont have big bodies besides the giants + alex, mukla most likely wont change anything in board situation.
3.VS. Aggro The 2 spells are basically useless (besides counting towards the quest)
4. Vs. control Body is useless, spells are useless.And they may cause you to get overdraw or eat mana for spells because you need to declock your hand.(as you often have a big hand against control)
5. VS. Aggro and Control: It was mentioned to take tome out for mukla.Tome has a chance of giving you an ideal spell + a lot of usefull spells and can be played in turn 5.
These spells can help towards aggro AND control and you got 3 spells from it (instead of 2)
Now for the argument that you get you quest faster.
This deck's main aim is to stall and live to get the 4(or 3) combo pieces done.
So any combo piece missing has the same "value" of missing.
Mukla just fastens the process of getting the timewarp but not the other pieces.
I havent tested it but i just see a lot of reasons to not play mukla here.
Acutally burgly bully can be really good!I will test it and tell you!
Again, thank you all for your positive feedback and the lot of upvotes, it is a blast to see that people play my variation with such joy!
I don't have Mukla, Tyrant of the Vale, but I would agree that he's better than Cabalist's Tome. The 5/5 Body is something to put on the board, and it gives 2, 1 mana spells that go towards the quest. I often find my hand crowded with spells unable to really make a nice board for myself. Obviously the Arcane Giant + Molten Reflection TTK is the main win condition of the deck, but having something on the board is still a good thing to have. The two low cost spells also are more effective in completing the quest vs potentially 3 high cost spells that could take multiple turns to use. I also agree with your choice of Burgly Bully. It agains gives the deck some much needed tempo and helps complete your quest.
I don't see what to remove for Burgly Bully or Dirty Rat because every card have their own use
losing to shaman and warriors
This deck should beat shamans. But yea it loses to Warriors and Hunter.
If there's anyone having a nice win rate with this deck and got at least over 15-20 matches, please do feel like explaining how you do that because this deck is extremely fun to play D:
Updated the stats today!
For questions,feel welcome to add me ingame or join my next stream. =)
Currently 15-8 with this deck with most losses coming from Quest warrior which everyone knows is probably this decks worse MU,
My only tip would be you don't always have to play the quest on turn 1. Especially against aggro decks. I normally mulligan for one or 2 drops and play them first before the quest. Realistically you won't even get a spell to play that counts to the quest until turn 3 at the earliest.
100% lose rate vs Warriors based on taunt. Warriors are so gay right now.
Works great, if you can set it up.
I'll try it today, but the combo is too hard to play.
1 problem is Dirty Rat and [card]Sorcerer's Apprentice[/card]
2 problem is not enaugh place in your hand. It relies too much on random procs of Babbling Book and [card]Cabalist's Tome[/card]. If u'll get expensive spells u won't use them fast enaugh to free space for combo.
I play against Murlok and Druid, it was fun, oh i got many spell to freeze the board.
I face Quest warrior, i think it is hard to kill em once they pull their weapon and dealing 8 dmg a turn.
Currently 7-3 with a few changes (all 3 lost to Quest Warrior)
-2 Shimmering Tempest
-1 Kabal Courier
+2 Loot Horder
+1 Mukla, Tyrant of the Vale
I felt there wasn't enough card draw to get the pieces in time. Too many times i would have the quest but not the giants or alex. Adding 2 loot horders helps alot with cycling through the deck.
Kabal Courier is very inconsistent. Sometimes it's amazing sometimes it doesn't give you a spell at all. Mukla gives you 2 one mana spells that you can use instantly and it's still a respectable body.
The spells are a fair trade off as well because many games you can get worthless spells from Shimmering Tempest and no spells at all from Kabal Courier while Mukla gives you 2 guaranteed useable spells every game.
I also feel "Meteor" would help in the Warrior matchup. I just have no idea how to fit it into the deck.
This deck really does feel like your cheating sometimes. You have enough freeze to stall whatever they throw at you and then u just kill them in 2 turns lol.
Regarding Meteor, better to have cards that help in close matchups than the hardest one.
Thanks mate!I really appreciate the feedback!
antonidas or alexstrasza?
I would generally say Antonidas if you are facing a lot of warriors (especially quest warriors), otherwise I think that Alexstrasza is much more consistent against everything else.
It is a core creature. The main idea of this deck is to survive until u get the full combo.
IMO, this(giant one) is the best version I did try so far, more easy to get win condition and fewer dead cards then toni version... :thumbs up
Thank you man!