Top100Eu Loyan's Scarab Control Shaman
- Last updated Nov 17, 2015 (Explorers)
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Wild
- 19 Minions
- 11 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 8240
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 11/13/2015 (Explorers)
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Hey! It's me Loyan the biggest hearthstone masochist and I'm back with some new shaman archeotype which I had a lot of success at the ladder lately.
WARNING This topic is made by polish young scrob so be aware of english grama mistakes which can cause blindness. He propably made couple of them already, dont be harsh. Thanks.
Stats : http://imgur.com/H1AbfMc Deck + Highest Rank : http://imgur.com/HAwvViU
So I had this deck idea for a long time and with newest adventure I could complete it. I've never been a fan of control shaman, always was missing some cool 3drop and scarab changed it. It does fit my concept so I gave it a shot and it worked!
Scarab is just really cool card for shaman. We got hex, healing wave and aoes which costs 3. Also you can get bgh, acolyte just many solid cards. Don't forget that with newest wing we will get Brann Bronzebeard which just makes it even better.
First version of this deck had eggs instead of doomsayers which wasn't that bad idea. Set up eggs for ED/Volcanic turn, sounds cool right? Sadly agrro was owning me most of the time due to really bad early game. Putting doomsayers was perfect and there is not a single, better card for that. Making good trades is the key to win in heartstone and he allows you to do that, plus he's killing some units. The other cool thing about this deck is Ed/Volcanic Drake combo. With full wipeboard you are able to put 2x 6/4 units which is really strong. Overall the idea of this deck is to control game to the late game and just mill your opponent, atleast most of the time.
Took me some time understanding/learning all match-ups but thats everything I know.
Warrior
75% winrate is really good but honestly It wouldn't be that high against great players knowing how to play this match-up perfectly. This match-up is going for deathrattle nearly always so you don't want to play azure drakes as long you have to. If you put too much on the board it will get brawled so think before you click this 2mana golden totem! Keep hex, scarab, doomsayer and twilight plus remember not to pick some draw thing from scarab, obviously. Don't heal up before alexstrasza as long he has lethal.
Rogue
Haven't played that much against him but I'm nearly sure that it's slighty favoured for shaman. 4 taunts, 4aoes, 2heals hexes and loatheb, it just has to go for shaman as long rogue doesn't run assasin blade which is obviously OP against you. Keep Doomsayers, Hex against teacher, Ed and Loatheb. No special tacticts here to win this match-up
Priest
Not many priestes on the ladder but this deck just destroys them. They can't stack up to 60hp like warriors and looking that this is going to deathrattle it puts you in better spot. I should rather tell you how not to throw the game and it's ysera. He will cabal it and you are fucked. Try to bait it with sludges and you will be fine. And count cards! Don't play azure drakes when you don't have to. Muligan is simple: Earthshock against cleric because you still can't allow him to draw 10cards early. Hex, Ed, Doomsayer plus Twilight, Scarab
Mage
Tempo mage is favoured for shaman. The only secret play is to doomsayer his miror entity and remember to keep hex against antonidas when you can. Keep doomsayer, ed, scarab, hex and twilight. Freeze is 50/50 I would say, mostly comes down to joust on healing wave plus remember than you can have 4 of them if you're lucky.
Paladin
So this deck has problem with secret paladin. Creepers, Shreders and Shielded Minibot are sticky and you got problems dealing with them. Got somehow 50/50 but it should be lower. Lets surprise you with muligan: doomsayer, scarab, storm, ed, twilight(coin) ed and earthshock.
Midrange is way easier and it's really hard loosing to it. 4wipeboards hurt him too much, winning at 20cards deep most of the time. No special tacticts and muligan is the same.
Druid
Agrro one is a good match-up and doomsayer is most of the time enough. Don't forget about fel-rever at 5th turn and you will be good. Doomsayer, Hex, Storm, Ed, Twilight, Scarab
Midrange is bad and wild growth is enough to lose you the game. Healing waves are akward and it's really hard to build good board. He can burst you really easly so you live till he goes for Loatheb. Muligan is the same, just minus storm.
Warlock
Slow warlock is bad for shaman because he can easly go jaraxus and just own you with him so keep some presure all the time and don't make greedy doomsayers plays if you don't have to. Don't attack face due to moltens and just mill him. Reno is easy and as you could guess muligan is the same. Scarab, Earthshock, Hex, Doomsayer, Ed, Twilight
Finally Shaman
Favoured for you badly. 4 wipeboard, the same as paladin but shaman is propably scarier because of burst potencial. No secret plays, just play ed and win from that point. Doomsayer, Earthshock, Ed, Storm, Twilight, Scarab
Hunter
Nothing hard, just play around traps. Agrro one is unwinable without healing wave so keep it plus you can't be greedy with Ed (turn5) is just too late. Doomsayer, Twilight, Earthshock, Storm, Scarab The same muligan goes for midrange plus you just keep hex. It's also way easier to win because it's way slower and gives you more time to make great combos.
RENO DECKS
Overall does really well against them and as long it's not warlock and jaraxus you will win it.
Not fan of changing cards in decks so don't ask me, will not answer! but I will answer every other question, plus criticism is great!
Hope it wasn't the worst guide you've seen and it will help someone. Tried to make it the smallest guide ever, did put what you need to know.
SEllOUT TIME
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Shout Out for MoreGamesThanSega because he gave me idea of scarabs and to every little happy reader after this long post.
Enjoy laddering!
can neptulon be replaced?
Yes. He's mostly a card for late game, to make sure you don't run out of steam. You might try Nefarian in that slot, for the two spells, or Chromaggus, for the duplicate card draws. A semi-budget replacement could be Kodorider.
Hard to, but you may want to test with other Legendaries, like Ragnaros the Firelord (RNG mode), Kel'Thuzad (if you're on board control mode), Alexstrasza (another lifegain), Reno Jackson (hard to pull), Nexus-Champion Saraad or Nefarian.
For non-legendaries, it's up to you
He's also a good card to bait removal before you play Ysera.
do you guys think i can replace Ysera for Chrommagus?
You dont have anything to trigger chromaggus effect the turn he is played so you wont replace the aditional value that ysera gives you by eating removal and getting you a dream card. The best replace would be Nefarian because accomplishes basically the same and could even be situationally better than ysera.
Great deck mate, I love playing Shaman and follow your stream regularly.
What card would be worth dropping for Brann Bronzebeard?
can i replace 1 elemental destruction with charged hammer?
also can i replace neptulon with nefarian or al alkir :(
I don't think Al'Akir makes sense, since you don't have buffing cards like rockbiter or flametongue. I'd use Chromaggus for better draw and additional Dragon synergy. Elemental Destruction is the MVP in this meta, and shaman always had troubles with board clears...
why chromaggus over nefarian?
also 2 copies of ED is necessary?
Elemental Destruction is what saves you most of the time, and makes the Volcanic Drake combo possible.
Nefarian is better, since you get value right now. For Chromaggus, you must wait a turn, and your opponent usually won't let it happen.
I can't figured out what is purpose of Doomsayer in this deck. It can be usefull only against secret pally in early game. I just don't see synergy between Doomsayer and any other cards in this deck???
Need explanation!
What's the purpose of Neptulon here? No other murlocks in deck.. May be it is reasonable to use The Mistcaller?
Refill your hand with cards that are not in the deck, really helpful against fatigue / control and he provides a decent body. The Mistcaller on the other hand is just so slow, with bad stats for a 6 mana drop.
Because Neptulon always gives you options to play the next turn, even when overloaded. Let's consider that when you're moderately lucky and don't get 4 x Murloc Tinyfin, murlocs have very strong synergies with each other, elevating their value way beyond their initial mana cost. Mistcaller on the other hand isn't as valuable as sheer Card Advantage. Sure your minions get buffed, but it doesn't make a lot of difference in such a control deck.
From this point of view - totally agree with You.
hahaha oh man I have to agree, it is insanely fun playing a slow playing control Shaman.....no one sees it coming - from the emote spamming aggros where healing with healing wave crushes them to the the slow rolling wallet warriors where you can just outlast them (so far).
Loving this deck mate :)
How about putting Earth Elemental instead of Sludge Belcher?
I got da beast in my sights
Agreed about the tempo loss when it gets BGH'ed. However...
1) If opponent uses BGH on it, he would pretty much have later problems with e.g. Dr7. Even though BGH might be sometimes the only answer, I strongly feel that this is not that obvious choice to auto-BGH the elemental (which we may benefit from I guess). Like the opponent thinking: "well ok, there is 7/8 taunt on the board but next turn the opponent has only x mana, so he'll pretty much not play anything strong".
2) I don't think we can consider sludge as a tempo card, meaning that playing sludge and getting elemental BGH'ed is similar tempo play.
Nevertheless I have some plans to give it a try. Will see.