Top100Eu Loyan's Scarab Control Shaman
- Last updated Nov 17, 2015 (Explorers)
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Wild
- 19 Minions
- 11 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 8240
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 11/13/2015 (Explorers)
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www.twitch.tv/11point5ft Streaming everyday - Follow and I will have your babies
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Hey! It's me Loyan the biggest hearthstone masochist and I'm back with some new shaman archeotype which I had a lot of success at the ladder lately.
WARNING This topic is made by polish young scrob so be aware of english grama mistakes which can cause blindness. He propably made couple of them already, dont be harsh. Thanks.
Stats : http://imgur.com/H1AbfMc Deck + Highest Rank : http://imgur.com/HAwvViU
So I had this deck idea for a long time and with newest adventure I could complete it. I've never been a fan of control shaman, always was missing some cool 3drop and scarab changed it. It does fit my concept so I gave it a shot and it worked!
Scarab is just really cool card for shaman. We got hex, healing wave and aoes which costs 3. Also you can get bgh, acolyte just many solid cards. Don't forget that with newest wing we will get Brann Bronzebeard which just makes it even better.
First version of this deck had eggs instead of doomsayers which wasn't that bad idea. Set up eggs for ED/Volcanic turn, sounds cool right? Sadly agrro was owning me most of the time due to really bad early game. Putting doomsayers was perfect and there is not a single, better card for that. Making good trades is the key to win in heartstone and he allows you to do that, plus he's killing some units. The other cool thing about this deck is Ed/Volcanic Drake combo. With full wipeboard you are able to put 2x 6/4 units which is really strong. Overall the idea of this deck is to control game to the late game and just mill your opponent, atleast most of the time.
Took me some time understanding/learning all match-ups but thats everything I know.
Warrior
75% winrate is really good but honestly It wouldn't be that high against great players knowing how to play this match-up perfectly. This match-up is going for deathrattle nearly always so you don't want to play azure drakes as long you have to. If you put too much on the board it will get brawled so think before you click this 2mana golden totem! Keep hex, scarab, doomsayer and twilight plus remember not to pick some draw thing from scarab, obviously. Don't heal up before alexstrasza as long he has lethal.
Rogue
Haven't played that much against him but I'm nearly sure that it's slighty favoured for shaman. 4 taunts, 4aoes, 2heals hexes and loatheb, it just has to go for shaman as long rogue doesn't run assasin blade which is obviously OP against you. Keep Doomsayers, Hex against teacher, Ed and Loatheb. No special tacticts here to win this match-up
Priest
Not many priestes on the ladder but this deck just destroys them. They can't stack up to 60hp like warriors and looking that this is going to deathrattle it puts you in better spot. I should rather tell you how not to throw the game and it's ysera. He will cabal it and you are fucked. Try to bait it with sludges and you will be fine. And count cards! Don't play azure drakes when you don't have to. Muligan is simple: Earthshock against cleric because you still can't allow him to draw 10cards early. Hex, Ed, Doomsayer plus Twilight, Scarab
Mage
Tempo mage is favoured for shaman. The only secret play is to doomsayer his miror entity and remember to keep hex against antonidas when you can. Keep doomsayer, ed, scarab, hex and twilight. Freeze is 50/50 I would say, mostly comes down to joust on healing wave plus remember than you can have 4 of them if you're lucky.
Paladin
So this deck has problem with secret paladin. Creepers, Shreders and Shielded Minibot are sticky and you got problems dealing with them. Got somehow 50/50 but it should be lower. Lets surprise you with muligan: doomsayer, scarab, storm, ed, twilight(coin) ed and earthshock.
Midrange is way easier and it's really hard loosing to it. 4wipeboards hurt him too much, winning at 20cards deep most of the time. No special tacticts and muligan is the same.
Druid
Agrro one is a good match-up and doomsayer is most of the time enough. Don't forget about fel-rever at 5th turn and you will be good. Doomsayer, Hex, Storm, Ed, Twilight, Scarab
Midrange is bad and wild growth is enough to lose you the game. Healing waves are akward and it's really hard to build good board. He can burst you really easly so you live till he goes for Loatheb. Muligan is the same, just minus storm.
Warlock
Slow warlock is bad for shaman because he can easly go jaraxus and just own you with him so keep some presure all the time and don't make greedy doomsayers plays if you don't have to. Don't attack face due to moltens and just mill him. Reno is easy and as you could guess muligan is the same. Scarab, Earthshock, Hex, Doomsayer, Ed, Twilight
Finally Shaman
Favoured for you badly. 4 wipeboard, the same as paladin but shaman is propably scarier because of burst potencial. No secret plays, just play ed and win from that point. Doomsayer, Earthshock, Ed, Storm, Twilight, Scarab
Hunter
Nothing hard, just play around traps. Agrro one is unwinable without healing wave so keep it plus you can't be greedy with Ed (turn5) is just too late. Doomsayer, Twilight, Earthshock, Storm, Scarab The same muligan goes for midrange plus you just keep hex. It's also way easier to win because it's way slower and gives you more time to make great combos.
RENO DECKS
Overall does really well against them and as long it's not warlock and jaraxus you will win it.
Not fan of changing cards in decks so don't ask me, will not answer! but I will answer every other question, plus criticism is great!
Hope it wasn't the worst guide you've seen and it will help someone. Tried to make it the smallest guide ever, did put what you need to know.
SEllOUT TIME
www.twitch.tv/11point5ft - not many shamans alive but you can follow me to keep the shaman alive and my stream overall BibleThump www.twitter.com/Loyantv
Shout Out for MoreGamesThanSega because he gave me idea of scarabs and to every little happy reader after this long post.
Enjoy laddering!
Replaced Neptulon with Piloted Sky Golem because I don't have enough dust to craft it, still awesome! Going 7-0 atm! Thanks op <3
This deck is such a house!!!! I just streaked from 18-8, losing twice. This deck plays a lot more like freeze/fatigue mage than shaman. People who are struggling, don't give up, it's not the most intuitive. I haven't enjoyed ladder this much since double doom hammer shaman. Good work!
This is a really great deck. I thought I was a pretty good shaman but I don't think I would have came up with this idea. This guy is almost as much of a shaman as Pinpingho.
Jeweled Scarab is the real deal, at least for Shamans. My Tempo Mage opponent just now had to watch me tank 42 damage with Healing Waves, while wiping his board every few turns. Must have been tough. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal tough.
Just crushed a Secret Paly spamming me with emotes. He filled the board and had an empty hand, I dropped an Elemental Destruction/Lava Shock and followed up with Ysera next turn. Insta-concede. I've never felt so satisfied.
**Edit** Followed by a Mech Shaman, same shit. Same insta-concede. This has been my favorite deck to play so far. Thanks Loyan.
However, I don't get when you're supposed to use Doomsayers? When is the best time to use them?
I was watching the stream earlier. He didn't have a problem playing them early on (turn two I saw at least once) for only a minion or two. I'm not familiar with playing them either but I hope to learn. I imagine it could really throw off a curve in the early game.
Doomsayers act as a soft taunt, indirectly giving you 7 more HP is the way I view it
haha yep. I was getting rushed down by an aggro rush deck Pally, and he got me to 8 HP and starting his emotes of "Well Met!" over and over again. I went to face with the minions I had on board which was pretty powerful with big minions....ED/Healing Wave (it won for 14 heal) then Lava Shock...then I said "Greetings, Friend" ;)
He conceded after that haha nothing better
same here: dont have those cards
Chillmaw is a good sub for Elemental Destruction. Neptulon is harder to replace because of the card draw. I would definitely try Sylvanas Windrunner, Rend Blackhand, Sea Giant or even Doomhammeras a replacement; cheaper solutions could be a Master Jouster or maybe Mana Tide Totem could work.
It seems like this deck works really well in high ranks (like watching you play Legend) but is very difficult to use to climb the ladder. Lots of decks are just way too fast, and even with all the removal available in this deck, unless you draw in the perfect order you need, it's hard to overcome all the face damage. Still love it, and will continue to play it, but I want to explore a new Battlecry-Midrange style Shaman to help climb ranks first. Only need another 150 wins for my gold Totem :D
I honestly can't see how this deck is good. I've played dozens of matches and haven't won that many. You're early game just isn't very strong so you get abused. Overloading 5 crystals is pretty hurtful and people seem to deal with my doomsayer really easily. I really want to like this deck. What am I doing incorrectly?
the 5 overload is tough, but can be managed if you also have a lava shock in your hand. also, you can typically get the volcanic drake out for free following the ED. I took one doomsayer out and just added a lightning bolt for a tad more removal. I wasn't getting much value out of 2 doomsayers, and like you said, its a target. I've been having moderate success myself. this deck takes a bit of getting used to and a bit of luck with discovers
I've been playing Shaman a bit frequently now with Elemental Destruction. The thing is, you'd want to keep that card in mind in advance and plan your early game into the card as much as you can. Also you'd want to think about what'd you do after you use it before you actually play it if you don't have a lava shock in hand.
Usually I'd set up my minions to trade rather than use the card, until I've gotten a bit later into the game, since the game can be lost either way. Of course, I use a different deck than what is featured here. It's a bit difficult but the card is amazing. You'll just have to plan your turns ahead of time if you want to manage your overload.
I'd suggest removing a destruction for another form of card draw to draw into the less risky removals as quickly as possible. People don't really like the card but Coldlight Oracle has been a pretty good card for me. It puts a body on the board plus draws you a card. In most cases the card draw may not benefit your opponent.
But getting lucky can only take you so far. And if you don't draw a shock or a drake you cannot ED at all.
Any replacement for BGH? I know he's great but I don't have him right now.
He's pretty hard to replace.
You may consider Piloted Shredder, Antique Healbot in higher mana costs.
For 3 mana minions, Harvest Golem Blackwing Technician (Dragon theme), Deathlord (but it gives a minion to your opp), Mana Tide Totem, Mind Control Tech, or Tuskarr Totemic are the best you can find
don't have Neptulon nor Elemental Destruction T__T
Elemental Destruction is pretty crucial to the whole control shaman genre. Don't leave home without it (preferably two).