Mech Warrior (s15 Legend)
- Last updated Jul 8, 2015 (Blackrock Launch)
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Wild
- 21 Minions
- 5 Spells
- 4 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 4680
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 6/10/2015 (Blackrock Launch)
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Introduction
A really good deck for those struggling against the majority of meta decks for s15. It's kind of self- explanatory to play,but there are some really key tempo plays that exist within the deck to give you the edge against decks that you otherwise have no business defeating long as you know how to utilize all working parts of the deck. "nice pun there huh?"
If this article gets enough +1 rating I will make the guide for you all. What the guide will do is help you all get your legend ranking this season by enabling you to pilot this deck at peak performance levels & include cards and combinations you haven't yet gotten to manipulate or otherwise get use out of in your collections. (which I enjoy just as much as getting you all your wins)
"Good luck everyone"
~Voltarin~
Want a shortcut to become better at Hearthstone faster than anyway else and for free being coached 1 on 1 by top world renowned players?
*TAW* ~The Art of Warfare~
Here is the link where you all can join up www.taw.net Tell em Voltarin sent ya ;)
Better yet here is a link directly to the application to join up incase you get confused navigating our site once there?
https://taw.net/themes/taw/user/application.aspx
I am one of their top coaches along with a long list of other multi-legendary players and deck designers. Among the coaches most known that you all would best recognize here would be my friend and personal EU Playtester for the legend ladder, Xzirez that finished at the top of the leader boards as Rank 2 Legendary player in all of the EU realm just last season. He streams & has contributed countless +50 meta decks for you all with nearly all these decks all hitting the front page setting our meta & having a huge impact on what we play.
Next we have Dlineman who also streams & has been on Hearthpwn's tournament players spotlight because he is a member of the professional NA team Ace Breakers is an extremely knowledgeable player all around with a well proven background of tcg's and experience as well as a coach finishing legendary ranking nearly every single season.
Last,but surely not least out of the known players to mention is a professional player,coach & streamer who gets legend on all 3 realms every single season since the beginning of Hearthstone and even capable of top 100 legendary raking in all realms simultaneously as well as a professional in Starcraft-2 from team XI-Gaming I give you EU's own Nightgarden. (Quite possibly the hardest grinder of all players)?!
I now give you this opportunity to join because you get to know us all on personal casual levels and makes our community stronger and no matter how busy or professional we are we do our best to frequent the site to help anyone in need with 1 on 1 coaching for free just because you are a member no matter how extravagent the player is coaching you. We do it for the community and the players.
I share my spotlight I'm not greedy :D
Pro Streamers/Coaches
Voltarin http://www.twitch.tv/epicvoltarin
Xzirez http://www.twitch.tv/vbsof
Dlineman http://www.twitch.tv/dlineman7
Nightgarden http://www.twitch.tv/nightgardentv
Inspiration - Couldn't stand to see only 2 types of Warrior archetypes running around ladder play thats viable during the climb & wanted to punish people to the extreme for mulliganing against the other 2 types that currently exist while also being able to punish fellow Warriors in the meta playing the norm for Warrior "Mission Accomplished".
Hearthstone Breakdown
Hearthstone = 25% RNG or Luck
Hearthstone = 25% Skill or Deck Piloting
Hearthstone = 50% Deck Creation
Total =100%
By this formula (which is a true one by the way). You can easily see that in this game building yields the greatest success rate over skill and yes even over RNGsus. (It's true).
The formula is simply to be figured like this RNG means the good RNG of your opponent in addition it also means the bad RNG of the game screwing you over. (It counts as both). Anyhow weighing in at 25% it is combated by your Skill & Deck Piloting completely equalizing the field zeroing each other out. So what matters now in this equation to bring you back into a postiive light is simply your Deck Creation skills vs. your opponents Deck Creation abilities. and thus you have the theory explained as a whole.
I know there are going to be some games even when building well that RNGsus is going to completely outshine your deck, but do not let this discourage you as a player for this is simply a fluke. The only thing that matters is "consistency". If something is not consistent simply ignore it and pretend it did not happen just keep a mental note of it for assessment in your later games when teching against it.
"I hope this enlightened a lot of minds today" Giving up my theories as a verteran builder to the public in exchange for a less stagnant meta and a more promising result from the players themselves and the future of this game = "worth it"
-vOLT~
Introduction-With this particular deck and pretty much any deck that exists there is a hidden rule that is present when looking at any deck and I will share that with you all now & enlighten you to the mind of the thought process of a veteran deck architect of tcg's. While playtesting with Xzirez like always a couple months back designing my past deck http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/101653-machine-hunter we stumbled upon a very important fact when deck designing and that fact is this. Ask yourself this question next time you design a deck. "How many cards in my deck have to be changed for the deck to actually be affected to the point to where it is no longer a re-vamp of my deck,but something totally new"
~*7-CARD THEORY*~
Well we have that answer. It is explained as what me & Xzirez have labeled the "7-Card Theory" With the answer being 7 obviously, but how? How did we figure that out?? Well it's simple from the 30 point life total you start with it takes 5 cards on tempo with viable card stats played up the curve with no retaliation to erase 30 life to defeat them. No opponent of course is just going to let you beat on them for 5 consecutive turns straight with zero resistance,but on average the slower decks only made us incorporate 2 more cards to still be able to finish them off and thus you have our theory and it exists silently in all designs,but is never as important to concern in the building process of a deck and in paying attention to it as it is when building a midrange base deck. Just as when playing midrange you can take on the entire field equally designing a midrange deck is very much the same process meaning you can interchange cards in your deck to fit your personal playstyle and adjust accordingly to the meta,
How many cards can you change without it becoming an aggro-based deck if you was to put in all small minions? How about a control-based deck if you was to replace cards in your deck for all high cast removal spells and minions ? Well I think you all know the answer to that now don't you? Now that you have all gotten a lot smarter in deck building I expect to see you all turn out a lot more exciting decks for the community and less only 2 viable meta decks per class which is sad and makes for a real boring and stagnant ladder climb for everyone. For divulging our secret this is all I ask of you in return. Now let the innovation begin! "You are welcome".
Also from now on when you see deck designers claim they have "A new deck" ,but haven't changed 7 cards from someone elses build that previously existed then it is only a re-vamp of the past and not at all a new deck. It is important to have the community be able to recognize the bullshitters from the true skilled deck designers. Enlightenment is the true key to growth. Knowledge is power & I am sick & tired of designers getting credit by changing 1-3 cards in a deck that previously existed and claiming it as their own just because a new set came out. (Like seriously design something on your own damn guy is my thoughts) I am sure it is the thoughts of many others as well I just have the balls enough to say so. It is sad because it inhibits innovation for this game we love so much & anything that inhibits innovation as a senior deck designer is my enemy. "Step it up architects".
From a deck builders point of view there is only one way to excuse yourself from the above in which I have stated & since past builds of mech Warrior have existed since the rise of GvG I will practice what I preach and in all of my deck slots I will not only provide you with why I selected a certain card in each slot,but also tell if it is indeed one of the interchangeable 7 cards you can change to fit your own personal playstyle or tech against a certain deck with. In addition include my personal suggestions which are the best replacements for each card in every slot,how many and why? "
Pay attention fellow builders this is how a proper tech is suppose to be you might just learn something".
Now as I was saying decks aren't meant to be a "perfect 30 cards" & no one understands that in the design more than someone with a strong Magic the Gathering background. Being a past player on the pro tour in my prime I can tell you it sticks out like a sore thumb that we need sideboards! I mean my god we are forced to use up actual deck slot space in our normal build just to accomodate this fact and take away room for what we want to do with our decks?! Believe me I hear your cries I am a player too myself as well as a deck tech meta maker and it pisses me off to no end.
Blizzard Entertainment you have it all wrong Magic has it right as no player should be forced to take away from their deck idea to accomodate for teching that is just absurd. "Hopefully one day you will get it right & learn how to properly fix your game". (for our sake at least)? This fact hurts us even more so than it would even in Magic because unlike Magic we as Hearthstone players only have 30 slots to tinker around with for our decks while most other tcg's have 40-60 card slots allowed in theirs.
~PREDICTION~
As the tournament scene becomes more & more popular and as more and more sets get released what then? Still be able to choose between 1-4 finishers at max in a control deck while never cycling out the old ones making our options limitless yet still only have 4 freaking slots at maximum?! "How significantly boring" ,to say the least.
This rant was also significant because now you all know the reason we have to subsidize space in our decks main skeleton just to tech and do so with the least amount of cards allowed in any tcg to build a deck from. Mark my words it will be the main trouble in the future for our game and Blizzard Entertainment better get off their ass and do something fast about it because what I am talking about here is real & over time will ruin our beloved game because who wants to play a game with limitless legendary minions to pick from,but never be able to play anymore than roughly 4?!!.
I want to bring the entire Hearthstone commmunity up to speed from the designers point of view the tribulations we will be enduring in the near future and why we have to design our decks the way we do while I am on the front page for all to see. "It's unfair I tell ya" (almost as unfair as only giving us 1 deck slot per class" "yuck" ! "Power to the players! We pay far too much to be screwed over by this kind of thing. Free to play sure,but how many people have you basically hooked so hard on the "pack opening process" to where that 1 person has paid for literally 25 free to player persons playing the game? & Hooked them so hard that they basically need a 12 step support group to get off from. Trust me I have seen and heard some real horror stories (and from this very site even on forum posts and it disgusts me). "We don't like your RNG we like & respect actual SKILL. We don't like your endless CARDBACKS . We want our damn DECK SLOTS & SIDEBOARDS (or at least increased DECK SIZE at the very least & we want it now! Lastly We don't want to have to pay for SKINS of our favorite heroes for only cosmetic value when it should be free to do that as it adds no value to the game play functionality of a match besides maybe intimidation?"
~Voice of the players 2015~
The real pushers of the millenium = Blizzard Entertainment"
*Disclaimer Before Proceeding *
"This is a guide not a specific deck to copy card per card from the list I have provided and go run off into ladder play oh no. I demand more from our Hearthstone community than a bunch of netdecking sheep that only encourage 1-2 archetypes per class to be born into our meta each few seasons.
With this article I intend to strengthen the minds of anyone who reads it,put them into the drivers seat of the competitive deckbuilding process & explain of my theories that I arm you with to enable "YOU" the player to not only pilot,but build a legend ladder capable midrange deck through trial and error that will produce results" & make you a better player no matter your skill level just from having read it.
The designed deck example you see before you is a tech to get past the archetype of the Grim Patron Warrior meta deck. At one time this was all I seen this season no matter where I was on the ladder.
"Best of luck to you all! ~Voltarin~
Warrior Cards
Execute Replaceable = Yes # to have in deck = (1)
Anymore is bad and follows a control-based build.
Ironbeak Owl works best as the replacement slot as it best deals with Sludge Belcher. Do this if you intend a more aggro-approach to your build when you notice a more control-based meta for the "swarm method" where they can't handle your fast-paced onslaught faster than they are able to pad their life total or aoe your minions down.
Warbot Replaceable = Yes # to have in deck (0-2)
Replace with something more midrange than aggro-based or provides some kind of action like a battle cry for example (some kind of 2 for 1 effect)? Otherwise you lose value with your choice over the Warbot.
Upon discssion and in playtesting Xzirez preference is dropping 1 of these for the 2nd Screwjank Clunker & said this change alone gave the deck more reach and an entire extra turn of survivability against mirror midrange decks and control decks if you start to fall behind it saves you and increased his overall winrate ratio 10% with just this one change. Try it out by all means! :D
Fiery War Axe Replaceable = No # to have in deck (2)
"It's not called win-axe for nothing?" Don't touch this one unless you want your winrate ratio % to shrink. (auto include)
Battle Rage Replaceable = Yes # to have in deck (2 or 0)
Never only have 1 of these in your deck because this is our draw engine. As the draw engine of this deck if you drop one you have to drop the whole scheme and resort to either lowering your curve signficantly and finding a spot for Jeeves. Or use Acolyte of Pain x 2 and also squeeze in cantripping damage effects.
(Be wary though that with doing this change we are once again weakened against Grim Patron cancer which is the reason I changed the scheme in the deck to what it is because it was all I was meeting on ladder at one point and that one change makes you strong against the deck if you can first bait out at least 1 of their damn Execute first before playing your Injured Blademaster so it is safe, but is extremely good against the Grim Patron itself so I just teched against it with this particular build. So just check your decktracker and record always what you have been facing most to make the right call for this while laddering.
Rampage Replaceable = Yes # to have in deck (0-1)
This card was just being used in conjunction with the synergy of your Death's Bite death rattle effect for significant trading or to finish the opponent off with a spell effect that really messes up their match letting them thing they are going to live another turn but this card says otherswise. Also it is a nice battle trick once in awhile to save the life of a minion about to be pinged off by a Mage's Fireblast
The card is totally replaceable though and just a matter of player preference so go wild guys. Innovation! :D
Shield Block Replaceable = Yes # to have in deck (0-1)
*(Most replaceable card in deck)*
(Really a meta call dependent upon the # of Face Hunter cancer SMorc you are facing for when this spell is played it's usually the final nail in their coffin, but in most cases this deck seems to hold its own quite well (Probably one of the best decks you can even play against it tbh)?
So that is what makes Shield Block so replaceable. What to replace it with is pretty much anything? Think of it in like in bingo. (This slot is your one "free space") Use it to throw in your tech cards against whatever recurring meta decks you are facing. If you would like to stay on curve the best thing you can put in this slot is probably a Hobgoblin as we run 7 1 attack minions to activate it which can be quite troublesome for any opponent. (Especially if you have left a board previous to your newly buffed minion from it because now they have 2 high priority minions in which to deal with immediately + 1 random minion and only a powerful aoe spell or all out board exchange can recover them from this spot and in most cases both favor you.
Death's Bite Replaceable = Yes #2 have in deck (1-2)
Always play 1 of these at all times although 2 is recommended because of the synergy the deathrattle provides with both your Execute & also your Battle Rage (assuming you have a board)?
Acceptable replacements if you want to stay on curve would be Screwjank Clunker or Jeeves if you dropped the card draw engine scheme in the original skeleton. This would be where one of the Jeeves gets added in for certain. The last possible things on curve thing you could try would be Arcane Nullifier X-21 to pad your imporant minions against aggro decks and have a board available for buffing against the spell classes. Kezan Mystic for the pure fun of it for extra hate against secret classes namely Mage & Hunter since most Paladin decks on ladder utilize secrets in their builds. Mechanical Yeti can be okay here to provide more reach since it almost always 2 for 1 with the opponent which is good for having something always around for buffing purposes + the spare part is always nice too & being a midrange deck against a control deck you can make better use of them msot of the time so this is a viable path you can take. Lastly if you dropped the curve and appealed to a really aggro-based version you could see what Enhance-o Mechano could do for you. We never experimented with it in tested,but I do encourage innovation so I'd love to hear from some ppl that choose this route after the effect of trying it! :D
Screwjank Clunker Replaceable = No # to have in deck (1-2)
As it suggests this is the card that defines us as midrange in our Warrior class cards people so to take away from this would be hindering our very achetype so always leave at least 1 copy in the deck and very strongly consider even possibly finding some room for the other one if able? As Xzirez suggested earlier in the guide. 10% win ratio increase in 1 card is nothing to take lightly so deff give this a try in your building trial & error before you say the deck & its midrange playstyle isn't for you.
Iron Juggernaut Replaceable = Both Yes & No
Replaceable,but with the strong fact to take into consideration that no other card in the game rewards a midrange deck for surviving turns like this card can. In games that you are losing from being A.o.E board cleared to death & find yourself in card-starved top deck mode this card has the ability to turn it all around instantly for you. If this cards static ability Burrowing Mine goes off it can either win you the game on the spot or a topdeck draw into a random game-saving Death's Bite or Fiery War Axe in assitance will mostly finish any opponent. It provides instant damage that has saved me many a matches during playtesting. By this time on the curve your opponent is generally low on life so this card fills in the reach gap quite nicely. Should they draw the Burrowing Mine even if they weren't low before they are now.
Replacements if you are still going with the same flow as my example,but do not own Iron Juggernaut then Sneed's Old Shredder would be best to sub in. If you do not own it since it is a legendary as well you can go for Piloted Sky Golem which also keeps the mech synerygy alive plus provides you with yet another minion from its death rattle effect and comes with a huge attack stat for emergency trading or polishing off the opponents life total.
If you don't own that then even a Loatheb would be a decent replacement because combined with a decent board preventing your opponents last ditch effort survival heal or aoe spell is sometimes critical and this could be the final shutdown tool for your deck.
He improves match ups against spell dependent defensive decks and when paired with lower curve minions. Lastly you can swap out the Iron Juggernaut for something else other than what was already said that you may need on your build provided your strategy is a more aggro-based one than here in this particular guide.
Shieldmaiden Replaceable= Yes # to have in deck (0-1)
This one was a meta call because of the high-aggro environment. If this environment feels slower to you at any time you may easily drop this for any desired card you may want to fit into your deck. Stay with being around the curve cost if sticking to a deck more like the one previewed on this guide.
Loatheb would be an optimal replacement in some spots & even a Sylvanas Windrunner or a Piloted Sky Golem. You might be able to be extra greedy and try and run a Sneed's Old Shredder if you wish for mech synergy,but it was never tested on ladder play so if you do let me know?
If you have lowered your curve there is endless stuff of things you may try? (Pretty much another free-space" for you to tinker with to your personal liking.
Even considering you chose to lower your curve Loatheb lends a strong aid to those fast minions trying to fininsh off an opponent so even knowing you have lowered your curve he would still be okay at the top of your curve for competitive play.
Neutral Cards
Cogmaster Replaceable - No # to have in deck (2)
If we abandon this card we lose quite a bit of our mech synergy value so it's a bad idea to stray from cutting any of these from our deck.
Annoy-o-Tron Replaceable-Yes #to have in our deck (1-2)
This card right here is our anti-aggro card. A real all star in our Hunter,Rogue,Paladin and even mirror Warrior match ups. Cutting 1 of him is indeed possible,but since this card is so good in so many match ups because of the super fast meta we are in. Cutting 1 isn't advised unless you notice slown down pace in your opponents decks from the history of using your deck tracker. Best advice is to look over match history and make an educated guess and if you do cut this guy make sure it is at least for another mech of some kind to keep the synergy alive in your deck.
Mechwarper Replaceable = No # to have in deck (2)
This is the main card in your deck that defines your deck as MECH if you was to cut any of these it throwns the entire rhythm of your deck all out of whack. Hands off this one entirely no room to get creative here.
Micro Machine Replaceable = Yes # to have in deck (0-2)
This card right here is one that is totally flavor and player preference & with our 2 drop slot being the dominative spot at 10 cards and maxed out we can easily afford to take away from it so enjoy your tinkering skills just remember that it is a mech and the more mechs you take away the less synergy your deck will have.
Injured Blademaster Replaceable = Yes # to have in deck (0-2)
This one provides us a strong resilience to the Priest class for its 4 attack stats and a gimmicky way to still have a draw engine against our brother Warrior deck the Grim Patron Warrior. Usually as a draw engine in Warrior we utilize the Acolyte of Pain or if we have a low enough curve to get more use out of it than our opponents and with us being mech we may also utilize Jeeves for this task. But take a closer look at this concept. What do you see wrong with this picture? "A FIGHT? COUNT ME IN! "EVERYONE GET IN HERE" ! !
That's right the most popular deck on ladder to legend atm is none other than the Grim Patron Warrior and if you utilize our normal draw schemes it weakens us to this fact in a real severe way and that's the reason the deck is posted on this page with Injured Blademaster because it is tech against that specific deck & this deck is EVERYWHERE on ladder atm you can't escape it. If you wish to replace them for the other drawing mechanisms we can incorporate thats fine and even improves a lot of your match ups,but when you run head first into this deck don't say I didn't warn ya :P
Spider Tank Replaceable = Yes # to put in deck (0-2)
Although replaceable x2 when you do always keep your curve and your mech count in mind when making a substitution for this card. You don't have to always replace it with another mech or even a minion, but it is recommended.
Piloted Shredder Replaceable = No # to put in deck (2)
This card is so strong even non-mech decks are running it with 2 copies so the fact that we are mech and this is the deck it was orginally intended for it would be crazy not to run 2 copies of it ourselves?
Junkbot Replaceable = Yes # to put in deck (0-1)
This card is nice because it is the one and only card in our deck that rewards us for exchanging our board. If we feel we have over-extended and the opponent has an AOE in hand to wipe us we now have a way out of that where before it was just get damage in when you can and then be left with nothing. Since he grows the opponent has to simply choose between the AOE effect spell or only dealing with him (which is nice) Giving the opponent lots of uneasy turns applying pressure is exactly the game we want to enable us our victories. That is our goal with this deck. All the way up the entire curve of this deck apply endless pressure to both board and face till death.
Although such a good card he is as stated above interchangeable to your preference so do as you like but once again keep the mech count and mana curve always in the back of your mind whenever you make a change to your deck effecting those two variables.
Dr. Boom Replaceable = Dependent upon build
Dependent upon build means simply this. The higher your curve design and build with your midrange strategy the more he matters in your deck as one of your only 2 finishers. Hell against control sometimes it's all you can do to kill the opponent by using a Death's Bite death rattle into your Boom Bots and pray it defeats them. Also Dr. Boom provides a really nice damage complimentary to Iron Juggernaut while also providing some really cool and useful late-game synergy with Junkbot. "Just plop him down exchange the bots and watch him grow" :D
Replacements: If you simply don't own Dr. Boom because you are a free 2 play player and haven't yet pulled him nor have the dust for him check your collection then for Sneed's Old Shredder as a good replacement for him as it is probably your next strongest synergy with this specific list. If you don't own him go for a Piloted Sky Golem Still don't own any of them try for one of these as a last resort Kel'Thuzad,Sylvanas Windrunner,Loatheb,Troggzor the Earthinator,Ragnaros the Firelord or even Force-Tank MAX (Everyone has got to own that by now f2p or not,right)?
Also he falls into the dependent catagory because if you just choose to lower your curve and do a more aggroesque type midrange deck you dont need him at all. and if that is the case just pick something in which you best would like to try out for that build.
Game Play
"With all the recent incoming posts to my comments section of this guide I have to reply to and endless emails I have received & new TAW member applicants pouring in due to the success rate of my deck tech here I have not yet gotten around to youtubing any performance videos on the deck for you, all. However I noticed in my comments that, Khristophesaurus already did a really remarkable job with never misplaying my deck so I will make my life easier by not having to make one in exchange for you all visiting his page liking it and subscribing to him cause he really did do a nice job with the deck!"
In addition to this I will also ask the coaches/pro players/ streamers featured in the article if they will use the deck for you all in ther up & coming streams. Thank you everyone!
Game Play
Evening,xTonyleo first thing is first let me show you proper gratitude for showcasing my deck to the public to get the word out. I went and watched your vids and there was quite a few player errors. In combination with that though your RNG was quite horrible. Like literally everytime you cried out "Okay I am good as long as he doesn't get this" etc it happend to you lol As a player my RNG in game is pretty poor to say the least,but today I think I have found possibly an even darker cloud looming over you karma wise. (Which sure is bad for you but makes for good entertainment value for your vids. Most people only want to see the raging and the drama which is why the news mainly focuses on such as their demographic for ratings). For example I don't think this deck loses much to any type variation of Hunter and somehow you managed to pull it off. I laughed because it was very entertaining so I hope a lot of people watch your vid as well as my deck tech.
The Injured Blademaster is a draw engine tech card serving both purposes at the same time. It is phenomenol in your priest match ups because of the 4 attack slot therefore playing around both Shadow Word: Pain & Shadow Word: Death. It also shines in any control match up to keep up with any of their decks by instead playing it on the 5 mana curve slot instead of the 3 utilizing assuming you have Battle Rage in hand because minion + card turns him into a card that reads 3 mana for a 4/3 that nets you a card and even further value is offered with Rampage since he comes into play already damaged. A lot of times if your opponent can't get rid of Injured Blademaster the turn you summon him when the next turn rolls around that Rampage just gave you all the reach potential you need to race any aggro-based deck or keep a control deck walking on eggshells. Also it holds merit in the Patron Warrior match up assuming you have gotten them to spend at least 1 of their Execute previous to casting it.
I see from your video where you got the idea for the Fel Reaver replacement when you basically ran into your mirror match getting surprised yourself on how fast the deck is already taken to the meta game. (That one even surprised me) :P While Fel Reaver is a decent card in the deck and could hold a viable place. In many hours of playtesting we have found that you can make this substitute but be forwarned if you fail to commit lethal to your opponent after your attack phase with him you are probably going to get decked atleast 70% of the time so I recommend you also tech in an Ironbeak Owl also to go along with that decision because if you think a Sludge Belcher is hell for you now wait until you pop that in your deck and have no Silence effect? Where will you be then?? The last side note I would like to contribute to this substitution conversation discussion is this. Just think what happens if this archetype becomes as big as Control Warrior & Patron Warrior? What then? All your opponent will have to do to defeat you in the mirror is play Iron Juggernaut to defeat you if the interaction between the Fel Reaver and the mine counts as drawing for the discard effect? I mean I am not sure myself on this because atm they are both really unpopular meta cards so its a beyond rare sight to see so if anyone reading this could provide info on this interaction that has actually seen it with their own eyes I would be really happy :D
Lastly I am a coach first and foremost for the game and I know I was hard on you earlier on by saying you made some key player errors (which is true) but I was just in coaching mode at the time I was watching your vids. So I am going to offer you and anyone else reading this a chance to get into a Hearthstone community with all player level skills from beginner to Blizzcon material as its member that hosts their own tournaments with actual prizes and a high level of networking and sponsorship at this time.
Their name is the TAW community which is abbreviation for The Art of Warfare
I am one of their coaches along with a long list of other multi-legendary players and deck designers. Among the coaches most known that you all would best recognize here would be my friend and personal EU Playtester for the legend ladder, Xzirez who streams & has contributed countless +50 meta decks for you all and also Dlineman who also streams & has been on Hearthpwn's tournament players spotlight because he is a member of the professional NA team Ace Breakers. Last,but not least out of the known players to mention is a professional player coach & streamer who gets legend on all 3 realms every single season since the beginning of Hearthstone EU's own Nightgarden. (Quite possibly the hardest grinder of all players)?! I give you this opportunity to join because you get to know us all on personal casual levels and makes our community stronger and no matter how busy or professional we are we do our best to frequent the site to help anyone in need with 1 on 1 coaching for free just because you are a member no matter how extravagent the player is coaching you. We do it for the community and the players.
Here is the link where you all can join up www.taw.net Tell em Voltarin sent ya ;)
Link directly to the application page https://taw.net/themes/taw/user/application.aspx
I share my spotlight I'm not greedy :D
Voltarin http://www.twitch.tv/epicvoltarin
Xzirez http://www.twitch.tv/vbsof
Dlineman http://www.twitch.tv/dlineman7
Nightgarden http://www.twitch.tv/nightgardentv
"Thanks again for the sweet video,xTonyleo I think you could really benefit from the teachings of the TAW community Hearthstone division so by all means join we'd love to see ya!"
~Voltarin~
Ahha yeah theres no doubt i made some key mistakes, especially being my first time playin this deck so was a fun adventure figuring out how it works. and will check it out.
Hello once again,xTonyleo so you then admit you need some practice at the game and would like to increase your networking influences by joining our community? If I was you I would see no reason why there would be not to because where else can you be on a personal level with some of the most skilled people to ever grace this game and get 1 on 1 coaching by our staff for free simply by seeing them randomly on our teamspeak or sending them an email via our site saying you would like a coaching session?
Plus it would do justice to the people's decks you are spotlighting because the players want to see what the deck performs like against a certain match up at peak performance levels and not just misplays. (Doing so may actually hinder people from wanting to play a deck if they see a deck spotlight that has failed on all levels due to those misplays).
Nothing on you once again as a player I am just offering you some help from people that can and will get the job done and evenmore network influence for your channel and for no cost to you (Not a bad deal,right?)
"Well think it over"
~Voltarin
:4Head: Beat a Druid and a Control Warrior with this deck :4Head: thanks for the share yoh! This deck is really cool because no1 knows what to expect and that is probably one of my favorite things about making Hearthpwn D3CK Spotlight videos because of all the really cool innovative decks and ideas behind them! Love this community and the knowledge everyone shares here and all the different perspectives :3 ! ENJOY THE VID :P !
Hey,Khristophesaurus thank you so much for spotlighting my deck but with all of the incoming questions due to the recent attention it has been recieving I haven't had a second to breath. Like even right now I am missing game 4 of the NBA finals to write you back and I live in Akron Ohio which is the home of LeBron James so I am being a bad fan atm haha
I enjoy this community as well and always encourage innovation above everything. What the professionals or streamers do doesn't matter and the power level of decks is not based on 1 particular card but on the supporting build of the deck against the meta and once people relaize this then they will be confident enough themselves to make meta for our community rather than just a big brand chosen few names. That is my main goal. To shake the meta up a bit make this game more interesting and put use to cards in peoples collections that they thought would never get a purpose. Getting people their legendary ranking for their 1st time ever is also quite rewarding,but I look on more to the bigger picture of things. It all boils down to why give a man a fish when you can teach him to fish & stand on their own against the meta come up with their strats as the next big thing. If everyone would do this all classes would be dominant instead of a fave and no particular archetype would be favorite and meta would be so large youd never know what to expect every single time you que up from your next opponent much like the Asia realm. I admire their innovation
Lastly I will show my appreciation of your efforts by coming to your page and showing you some love on your page.
"Pay it forward"
~Voltarin~
Wow thanks for the support and the detailed response :D ! That is really cool that you want to change up the whole meta and now that you mention the Asia realm bringing in innovative decks I believe that without playing over on their server myself. I do see innovation on Hearthpwn though and I have had the opportunity to make some deck spotlight videos of these decks! I think that is something I also really need to work on is becoming more creative with this game and the different deck styles. I did invite someone from I believe Zilea's stream last night to post their doomsayer/Solemn Vigil/ Volcanic Paladin deck on here because they were talking about it and it seemed really neat would love to do a video for that too XD ! Anyways, thank you once again & I look forward to possibly more decks from you!
Morning,Khristophesaurus yeah no problem like I said I don't yet have a guide for you all so I feel guilty so my conscience makes me give full detailed replys. Yeah but changing and shaking up the meta is the goal and adding more decks viable to play in the meta per class so Hearthstone doesn't become stagnant is the even bigger goal because the main reason to play any game is fun & fun cannot be had with a stagnant environment level with no innovative new exciting ideas or anyone pushing the envelope.
Happy to see you have taken up your own responsibility to push for decks by going out of your way to get someone elses idea into the limelight so kudos to you for that is in order.
I am an avid deck designer so I gurantee you all will be hearing more from me in the future because where there is a boring meta there is me to combat it.
Feel free to follow me here on Hearthpwn to see my creations as I make them so you can be the first before the masses to try out my decks.
"Thank you again for the exposure"
~Voltarin~
It's fine make a guide when you have time :3 ! There are a lot of cool ideas on here like today I'm probably going to play a Stickadin deck and it has a Piloted Sky Golem and a Troggzor in the deck so should be fun! Usually on ladder you can expect mages to be flamewaker tempo mage, hunter to be hybrid hunter and warlock to be zoo but there is also freeze, mid-range and handlock but that's really the only two types you see being played :l ! But people like you are important and I'm glad there is somewhere like Hearthpwn where you all can share ideas :D ! I will follow you yoh!
What's going on,Khristophersuarus? Always nice to hear you got more things in the works as far as for our community. The new deck in which you speak of sounds quite interesting for certain as well as quite fun and even be real competitive too assuming its supporting build from the base idea is correct and curves properly.
Yeah that's why I write here too because it seems the rest of the sites seem to only promote how they can make already existing meta decks evenmore volatile when they are already proven decks and just rearrange cards from these old decks and adjust according to the power level creep of the new cards that come out. Big deal right? By doing so it really discourages the growth of any new ideas for competitve decks that would come to the forefront.
Lastly I meant for you to follow me here on Hearthpwn to see my latest & greatest deck innovations as I make them and be the first to try them in my earlier post not my youtube lol "Only follow my youtube if you want the greatest metal music playlist that exists" haha You also may want to join TAW as well like I had suggested for the other Youtuber for the networking purposes & possible podcasting interviews with actual professionals that frequent with us which would probably be quite a useful tool for you I would assume?.
As for player errors I really didn't see any so very good on a job well done which is why you 2-0 both your opponents with ease. NICELY DONE!
~Toodles~
~vOLT~ <---- See how I made my name look like a bolt of lightning? That's sexy huh?
This is totally intentional too can you guess what it is? ----> ^S^
Okay I am bored peace
Yeah I hope I will see that deck on here some day! Plus paladin is a solid class all around anyways just wonder whether or not it runs muster for battle. I love when new cards come out though they usually don't shape the meta too much but it's usually fine because decks that seem super strong in the beginning usually end up getting countered soon after like face hunter D: ! I haven't heard of TAW might be something worth checking out soon! Thanks :3 ! Nice bolt lol! Anyways this will be a short response because I'm really sick today :l !
Evening once again,Khristophesaurus yeah check TAW out for sure you won't be disappointed we have currently 70 Hearthstone members (roughly 40 NA members and 30 EU) and 10 professional free coaching staff that you otherwise would have to pay for their advice. We house our own tournaments some offering actual prizes and points. We provide strong networking and team sponsorship & give you a family to belong to as well as the ability to log on 24/7 and play with someone or be coached which is priceless.
Where you would most benefit from it since by your vid in playing my deck 2 games with 0 player errors would be our strong networking capabilities. Professionals scene player,streamers, podcasters youtubers like yourself an more. Chance to interview our players as guests on your vids etc simply just because you are a member.
TAW is nearing closely to 2,700 members with a span of nearing close to 100 different games I think you'd be a nice fit since you like to cover gaming on your channel. Plus you could go from being an intermediate player as you are now to a professional yourself in time with enough coaching from our staff.
"Hope to see you with us & get well soon"
~vOLT~
Sounds legit I didn't know that there were groups like this specifically for Hearthstone. I would like to get way better at this game but I think I still have a long ways to go!
Yes there is and it isn't just for Hearthstone its for any game like seriously over 100 titles we sponsor. We are just the Hearthstone division,but yeah you can join no matter what your skill level we have anywhere from noob to blizzcon material as members and all are treated equally. It's a pretty sweet deal :D
Here is the app to join us just fill this out and its a done deal!
https://taw.net/themes/taw/user/application.aspx
~vOLT~
Hey ,Foxxie616 thank you for the kind words yeah the deck does run out of steam every once in awhile,but usually as you do the opponent has as well and it is in fact an avid "top deck war". Also like you said such is the fate of all midrange decks and is a basic weakness the archetype can't escape. More often than not you still pull the win in these situations because the only thing a straight up control-style deck wants to do even before establishing its own persence on an empty board is draw,draw,draw!
Greatly feared Demonlock & Handlock archetypes even damage themselves with their greed for more cards so that is why we make them pay for that greed with our Iron Juggernaut and his mine,mine,mine giving this card an unusual place in the limelight because the reach this card provides is sometimes our last ditch effort of winning against suck decks so when you find yourself fizzled out like this the situation calls for survival so that every turn your hero goes on for increases the % for them to blow up & is that much closer to their doom. Why play a game not to lose when you still just by surviving can win the game? (Even in its worse-case scenario a control deck at 14-10 life or under is going to slow their drawing down significantly creating a lot of dead cards and hero power abilities giving you the stasis strategy for winning). I say 14 life cause of the many of times tehy drew the mine on their untaunted up board and put them at 4 life with my imminent death on the board but topdeck a lucky Death's Bite and win the game which happens more than you would think due to the draw engine in your deck because remember you also play 2 cantrip cards with the Battle Rage so that increases your outs % to being really good once your deck is thinned in the later game because late game Battle Rage into Death's Bite is always just as good as drawing the Death's Bite itself.
Also the reach potential goes beyond even this. Let us look at best-case scenario. Lets say they are at 22 life you have an equipped Death's Bite with 1 charge left & theyjust drew the mine putting them at 12 life now you topdeck your Dr. Boom lets say since best case scenario you have a clear board and both of the Boom Bots hit for their total of 4 damage connecting for 8 total damage well now you just won that game out of the blue just by keeping yourself alive which rewards you for being resilient. Where most other midranges fall short of lethal this deck has the potential to still get the kill on your opponent & that is why I have chosen the Iron Juggernaut for this deck. That last ditch effort is necessary especially in your climb to rank 5 to legend where the meta slows down to a more control-based atmosphere. "Hidden burst potential is always nice".
Sludge Belcher is the king of ruining every aggro & mid-range based deck. You just gotta play around it best as possible also when I make the guide I will include how to deal best deal with him and what you can do to tech against them as a few of the slots are interchangeable depending on what you are dealing with in the majority of your matches.
"Hope this answers a lot of your questions for the time being & have a great day & thank you for giving my deck a chance!" :D
~Voltarin~
missing iron jaggarunaut .. 1x injured bladmaster .. and the junkbot .. is this deck still viable without those cards ?
Morning both of you Bouncing Blades & Czaro1234 since both of your questions each represent subsitutions I will try to handle you in the same reply. Although I have never play tested the deck with anything missing before? I will try to come up with a way to make the deck still viable for each one of you just craft the other cards when you get the spare dust later on. I will try to accomodate appropriate subsitutions for you all,but with this understand I can't gurantee the same high % win ratio it has over the meta without the specific list,but I will include what best to replace your missing cards with to at least give you a shot at playing the deck.
First we have Czaro1234 missing both Dr. Boom & Iron Juggernaut which disintegrates a lot of late game potential damage for the deck we otherwise would have plus makes our Junkbot weaker since both missing cards are mechs so that means we have to replace them with other mechs to pad our mech% ratio of our deck. I guess what I would do in your situation is replace both cards with really high damage potential plus make them aggravating for the opponent to deal with at the same time meaning to probably choose Piloted Sky Golem x2 as your cheap replacement card for the legends missing. Then since Dr. Boom's extra 2-8 damage from the Boom Bots is actually irreplaceable for the mana cost so we have to resort to sacrificing some defense against the Hunter class by dropping our Shield Block for more pull against the later game control decks for more reach. The reason we choose the Hunter as the class we drop our tech against is because it is fairly an easy match-up reguardless believe it or not for this deck so it least affects our win ratio against the meta field enabling you to still climb. The card you want substitute in for the Shield Block is probably Sneed's Old Shredder as it has the best stats and reach for late game potential for this build. If you do not own that then perhaps a good secondary choice would be Foe Reaper 4000 for its strong clearing potential plus Big Game Hunter immunity so if left up for even 1 turn would mean your opponent will no longer have a board either and since your hero power is Armor Up! you can outlast them meaning it is a high-priority target for your opponent almost promising them losing should they fail to remove it. & If you don't have that then I suggest just a plain old Force-Tank MAX because you need a good trade with the divine shield to regain your lost tempo if possible + the high stats it possesses to be a finisher for you as its purpose.
Next we have BouncingBlades missing our closer against control decks with the Iron Juggernaut & a vital piece of our card drawing engine with our Injured Blademaster so what I would do in your situation would be to drop our draw method all together lower the curve of our deck a tad without giviing up any real tempo and as little damage as possible so by that we have to include both Jeeves & Hobgoblin along with Acolyte of Pain & then also cutting the Shield Block since Hunter is an easier match up for us and it works against the newly added in Jeeves & I would sub in for that a Piloted Sky Golem & even Sylvanas Windrunner is acceptable in the build since you are missing the Junkbot & if you have neither of them I guess Loatheb would even be okay and even improve a lot of your match-ups but the missing damage will be an issue quite possibly.
So -1 Iron Juggernaut for +1 Piloted Sky Golem, Sylvanas Windrunner or Loatheb
-2 Injured Blademaster for +2 Acolyte of Pain
-1 Junkbot for +1 Hobgoblin
-1 Shield Block for +1 Jeeves
*Pps Lastly if with all these card drawing changes added to your deck if you feel that you have enough draw power you may drop 1 or even both Battle Rage to tech against other decks. List of acceptables with these changes would include Ironbeak Owl x1 Execute x1 Clockwork Gnome x1 or 2 Cruel Taskmaster 1x or 2 Micro Machine x1 Demolisher x1 Frothing Berserker x1 So this gives you 2 spaces to fool around with to adjust accordingly with your specific playstyle"*
"This should get you all fixed up and your tempo plays impactful on the opponent no matter what they play good luck to the both of you & thank you for trying my deck" :D
~Voltarin~
wow thanks for the detailed replay bro .. tried the replacements you suggested..
played about 4 games at rank 13-12 and won all 4 against 2 hunters .. a druid .. and an oil rouge .. Hobgoblin works very well with War bot Acolyte of Pain and Jeeves [/card] and is especially insane with [card]micro machine and Annoy-o-Tron
the amount of wellplays and friend requests i receive is exceptional after pulling off something crazy
thanks for this awesome deck bro
Anytime BouncingBlades since there was not yet a guide for you all I figured the very least I could do is set everyone up with decent responses to head them in the right direction on how to pilot this monstrosity I have unleashed upon the meta lol
Be sure to keep me posted because feedback from your experiences only help to make the deck more powerful
Lastly feel free to add me up as a friend on here so you can always see my new meta decks whenever I decide to let one go for the masses.
"s15 Legend is within your grasp"
~Voltarin~
Good morning,Asdig congratulations on your legendary pull indeed. (double lucky since I just now posted a viable legend ladder deck with your new Iron Juggernaut in it so the timing is precise for you. I am glad you are having fun playing the deck and yeah the Junkbot catches everyone offguard because at its worst it draws hard removal or heavy attack from your opponent leaving room for your other minions to race assuming you have a board or making a safe path for Iron Juggernaut or Dr. Boom to be cast.
What rank are you playing at?
Oh yeah and one more ? why don't you want this deck to make it into the meta scene? It would bring so much more power and archetype to the Warrior class overall because what makes a class more powerful than other classses is how many viable archetypes one class possesses within its class and more classes need to catch up with the amount of archetypes the other classes have and this will do just that?
I guess I can't expect a +1 from you then since you don't want my deck gaining popularity eventhough you are using it and are liking it huh? :P It is okay you can't keep a good deck down if it is truly a good deck so you don't have to I am glad you are enjoying it.
"Good luck this season & thank you for giving my deck a spin :D"
~Voltarin~
Yeah Asdig it should get you all of the way there if you know the full potential of the deck and how to truly manuever it because you will be the 5th person to have gotten legend with it this season so it is a proven deck with a high win ratio % against the meta field.
The reason you want this deck to gain popularity other than helping me out is because you are sick of only seeing control & Grim Patron Warrior as the only deck ppl play on ladder to legend and that will get rid of some of the stagnancy the game is suffering from atm which is a wonderful thing for all of the players.
So what was your replacement factor for the missing Shieldmaiden since you are wanting legend from the build?
"Thank you for the +1 it really helps both me and the future of Warrior as well as the Hearthstone community for others like yourself. :D
~Voltarin~