New Legendary Priest Card Reveal - Zerek, Master Cloner
A new legendary priest card has been revealed by Jacob0.
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Isn’t what you quote and what you said the same?
Has potential but doesn't seem too busted at the moment.
as some of you may have forgotten: there are more ways to get him back than buffing it. Binding Heal for example.
altough i'm still not sold into that card: at least i'm gonna try him out. he could get bonkers with a cube and resummon effects in some way.
I am pretty sure it won't keep its deathrattle. Revived minions never keep their buffs.
To activate the deathrattle you have to cast a spell...but if the spell makes a copy of Zerek, does the copy keep the activated deathrattle? Or do you have to cast another spell on the copied Zerek to have the copy ALSO resummon? I hope my question makes sense.
Great question. This is only a guess, but I would suggest that the copied Zerek would not have its deathrattle be active in your scenario. I'd suggest this because when you're casting the copy spell, let's say Vivid Nightmare, the spell is happening while the minion is being copied, and the spell resolves only after the copy has been made. I would imagine that the spell might count as having been cast only when it resolves, i.e. after the copy of the minion has been made.
Having said all that, I would hope that Blizzard hard-code it so that copies in such cases as these would be resummoned.
So in that scenario, you could cast a second Vivid Nightmare on the original Zerek, Master Cloner, and then the SECOND copy would have the activated deathrattle. Or just cast Vivid Nightmare after you've cast at least one of any other spell on Zerek, Master Cloner
1) If you cast 2x Vivid Nightmare on Zerek, Master Cloner it would respawn once. You would get 2x 1/1 Zerek, Master Cloner + a 5/5 on board. Both 1/1 will have zero buffs on them. Zerek, Master Cloner would only trigger once, because it says any and not for any spell cast on this minion, resummon it. Big difference.
2) When both Vivid Nightmare 1/1 dies, they won't respawn, unless you cast a spell on them. The correct order (correct me if I'm wrong) would be: a) cast Vivid Nightmare on Zerek, Master Cloner, b) cast Vivid Nightmare on 1/1 copy Zerek, Master Cloner
- c) proceed to next 1/1 Zerek, Master Cloner with whatever spell, otherwise don't play Vivid Nightmare if you have no access to draws or spells like Shadow Visions). You can perhaps use it better next turn.
3) From there, 5/5 Vivid Nightmare will respawn as 5/5, 1/1 Zerek, Master Cloner will summon a 5/5 Zerek, Master Cloner , and 1/1 Zerek, Master Cloner will just die, unless you have put another buff on it.
* Disclaimer: I've been wrong before, and Hearthstone mechanics have got the best of me before, where would should seem obvious is not the case (fx 2x Brann Bronzebeard). But regardless, I recommend you to take the card text very litteraly. They are designed to be a path of mechanics, and therefore not to be interpretated.
Good question. Cheers!
I'm a little confused on your organization, since it goes 1) 2) c) 3) . Also, minor correction, the minions spawned from Vivid Nightmare would be 5/1's.
But your logic makes sense. It'll depends on how the minion determines the deathrattle: either it saves the enchantment to the minion when you cast the spell, or it waits until the minion is dead and THEN checks to see if you've cast a spell. In the former case, each 5/1 spawned from Vivid Nightmare could respawn a 5/5 when it dies. In the latter case, it doesn't matter how you copy Zerek, Master Cloner, you still have to cast a spell on each copy.
I don't know what the precedent is for how conditional deathrattles are determined- does anyone have insight to that?
Nice explaination
yes, but if it is an "Exact copy" of the minion, like blizzard said in the consistence changes thread, the "Copy" had a spell on it, the one that was used to copy it
yes, but, you cant cast Drangon fire on a minion, I would loved someone tried to get Primalfin Champion and Vivid Nightmare to confirm it
Solid card
calling it now: most underrated card of the set
Hmmm, this left-of-center pose for Zerek looks very familiar. It's almost like they drew this over Lord Godfrey.
wonder what happens if play dead is cast on it.
Uuuhhh wrong buddy silenced deathrattles still res. Must do VCAL
You misunderstood it. Even when the card is silenced, it still counts as a deathrattle for Twilight's Call. And after that you could buff it with something like Power Word: Shield and get a 5/5 back
It's supposed to be a very sticky minion against massively buffed mechs. It looks a lot like silence is gonna be actually going into decks everywhere.
Value... but do you really want the repeated value of a 6 mana 5/5? if it retains any buffs cast on it, it would be insane but I'm guessing it doesn't??