Greetings Lombaxine, and welcome to the site! The Shaman Information Hub is a useful resource, and has lots of ideas in the "Shaman Decklists" section for how to improve your first Shaman decklist. For an in-depth look on cards and synergies, check out the "Shaman Cards" section.
Could you please explain what the differences between Control and Mid Range Shaman is. They all look way too similar to be be separated into 2 deck types.
Your question inspired this article. Hope the added info. helps.
I can't wait to play a Naxx-Crusher decklist when Reincarnate becomes available.
Leper Gnomes in this deck don't make sense to me. This isn't an aggro deck. Loot Hoarders are a better replacement for Baron Rivendare synergy, and gives Shaman much needed card draw. I'd make room for at least one Faceless Manipulator in this deck. You have so many big cards to copy!
Turn 10 Al'Akir the Windlord + Reincarnate is 12 damage. Helpful if you don't draw into any Rockbiter Weapons. Leeroy will definitely see more play with all the damage you stated above. Combo Shaman is going to be a lot more common on ladder, and may soon be one of the strongest Shaman archetypes.
You should make your deck in the Deckbuilder and edit your thread to include the deck link. The link will looks something like this: [deck]Random Numbers[/deck] and will appear after you've finalized your deck.
A solid list, and valid thought-process. Get your opponent to spend their silences on early game cards like Bloodmage Thalnos, Nerubian Egg, Harvest Golem before letting them have it with an onslaught of Legendaries.
Just pointing out, "Tsafy's" decklist requires less dust than "Shamtrol", while only the second one is put under budget section.
Details aside, great article , hope other classes catch up to it.
Always looking to improve the thread. I will look into making the appropriate changes. Thanks for the feedback! EDIT: Tsafy's F2P decklist has been moved to Budget.
Our Class and Arena Mods are hard at work creating sticky threads just like this one (better even!). They'll be published in the near future so keep an eye out.
The Differences Between Control and Midrange Shaman
For new players it can be difficult to discern what makes a Midrange Shaman decklist differ from a Control one. Often times when you look through the "Decks" section of Hearthpwn it can be quite confusing. Decks that are listed as Control are actually Midrange and decks that are Midrange are incorrectly labeled as Control. I'm here to clear the air.
First, let's clarify what Control and Midrange mean. A Control deck's goal is to do just that, control the game. Always clearing the opponent's board while establishing board control by any means necessary. Rarely pushing for lethal damage early on and always making optimal trades. Midrange decks have the option to be more aggressive than Control. They are at a middle-ground between Control and Aggro if you will. Midrange decks will have a few cards that increase potential burst damage. To be able to push for damage on a whim is one of the advantages of playing Midrange, while Control is typically much slower and safer. Midrange still wants to clear, but they're not afraid to let their opponent have some minions on board in order to setup lethal in the coming turns. Control decks have burst in the form of Argent Commander, and Al'Akir the Windlord + Rockbiter Weapon(s), but not nearly as much as Midrange.
So how do you differentiate Control Shaman from Midrange Shaman? What cards do you look for? To earn a greater understanding, I will dissect two popular Shaman decklists that are correctly labeled, and discuss what makes them different from each other.
Control Shamans prefer Chillwind Yeti over Violet Teacher because it trades better with the opponent's minions allowing for safer board control.
Midrange Shamans use Violet Teacher because it increases potential DPT (Damage Per Turn) with the tokens it produces, allowing for more potential burst damage from cards like Flametongue Totem and Bloodlust on future turns.
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Control Shamans typically use Argent Commander as removal. Think of it as a 6 mana, 4 damage spell that summons a vanilla 4/2 minion.
Doomhammer is the poster child of Midrange Shaman. Not only is it value board clear over multiple turns, it's burst damage potential is through the roof. x1 Rockbiter Weapon on Doomhammer is 10 damage (5 damage twice), while x2 Rockbiter Weapon is 16 damage (8 damage twice).
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Control Shamans use Defender of Argus because it strengthens their own board and allows for better trades, giving them more control over the game. It's most useful against Aggro decks, especially if they go for face, allowing your Totems to stay on board.
This Midrange Shaman deck uses Bloodlust and Lava Burst over safer board control type minions in order to have more burst damage potential. Midrange Shamans typically sacrifice safety for burst.
Conclusion
Control and Midrange Shamans depart from each other because of card choices that affect play-style. Control Shamans use safer cards that trade well with the opponent's board, while Midrange Shamans choose cards that give them more burst damage potential. Know what to look for when labeling your own Shaman decklist. If the deck is slower with ample removal, does not have the flexibility to push for face damage early on, and uses cards that trade better rather than tech cards, it is a Control deck. If the deck sacrifices safety for added burst damage potential it is a Midrange deck. Control and Midrange decklists do have strong similarities in the Class specific spells they use, but key cards set them apart that completely change the way games play out.
Could you please explain what the differences between Control and Mid Range Shaman is. They all look way too similar to be be separated into 2 deck types.
Great question, solvikaaber. A Control Shaman's goal is to do just that, control the game. Midrange Shamans are typically more aggressive than a Control decklist. If you notice under the Midrange decklists, you'll see cards such as Spiteful Smith, Lava Burst, and Bloodlust. These cards turn a typical Control decklist, into a more flexible one that can be aggressive on a whim. "Midrange" is the middle-ground between Control and Aggro.
Adurin, this thread turned out to be a resounding success. I know the Hearthpwn community will appreciate the effort you put into making these lists. Job well done.
Wish they did this for some of the other classes, very nice
I believe some of the other "Class Mods" are currently working on their individual Class Info Threads also. Just have to wait till they finish and post in on their class forums. This kind of work takes a while to do, and set up properly. xD
Yes, our Class Mods are hard at work making their Class Stickies something to behold. I've had a look at them, and they're coming along quite nicely! Expect them to be published in the coming weeks.
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Greetings Lombaxine, and welcome to the site! The Shaman Information Hub is a useful resource, and has lots of ideas in the "Shaman Decklists" section for how to improve your first Shaman decklist. For an in-depth look on cards and synergies, check out the "Shaman Cards" section.
Enjoy your stay on Hearthpwn!
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Your question inspired this article. Hope the added info. helps.
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I can't wait to play a Naxx-Crusher decklist when Reincarnate becomes available.
Leper Gnomes in this deck don't make sense to me. This isn't an aggro deck. Loot Hoarders are a better replacement for Baron Rivendare synergy, and gives Shaman much needed card draw. I'd make room for at least one Faceless Manipulator in this deck. You have so many big cards to copy!
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Turn 10 Al'Akir the Windlord + Reincarnate is 12 damage. Helpful if you don't draw into any Rockbiter Weapons. Leeroy will definitely see more play with all the damage you stated above. Combo Shaman is going to be a lot more common on ladder, and may soon be one of the strongest Shaman archetypes.
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You should make your deck in the Deckbuilder and edit your thread to include the deck link. The link will looks something like this: [deck]Random Numbers[/deck] and will appear after you've finalized your deck.
Molten Giant is a neat idea. It synergizes with possible Overload you may have (low cost), but you don't have many taunt givers. Just x2 Ancestral Healing and the single Defender of Argus. Maybe throw in a Sunfury Protector, Faceless Manipulator, and an Ancestral Spirit. Imagine double taunted Spectral Knight! It's unfortunate that you can't use Reincarnate or Ancestral Spirit on it though :/
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A solid list, and valid thought-process. Get your opponent to spend their silences on early game cards like Bloodmage Thalnos, Nerubian Egg, Harvest Golem before letting them have it with an onslaught of Legendaries.
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Please refrain from reposting the decklist and bumping the thread. As you make changes to the deck, the original decklist post will update.
Thanks!
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Nerubian Egg and Haunted Creeper's deathrattle have great synergy with Flametongue Totem. You can kill off the Nerubian Egg, and Haunted Creeper's Spectral Spiders are extra damage for a big Bloodlust turn
Nerubian Egg replacing Argent Squire is a fun idea. Here are typical Shaman cards that can enable it in order to trigger the deathrattle:
Nerubian Egg could certainly be viable in a Shaman deck.
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Midrange without a doubt!
P.S. accidentally hit edit instead of reply! My bad!
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Always looking to improve the thread. I will look into making the appropriate changes. Thanks for the feedback!
EDIT: Tsafy's F2P decklist has been moved to Budget.
Our Class and Arena Mods are hard at work creating sticky threads just like this one (better even!). They'll be published in the near future so keep an eye out.
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The Differences Between Control and Midrange Shaman
For new players it can be difficult to discern what makes a Midrange Shaman decklist differ from a Control one. Often times when you look through the "Decks" section of Hearthpwn it can be quite confusing. Decks that are listed as Control are actually Midrange and decks that are Midrange are incorrectly labeled as Control. I'm here to clear the air.
First, let's clarify what Control and Midrange mean. A Control deck's goal is to do just that, control the game. Always clearing the opponent's board while establishing board control by any means necessary. Rarely pushing for lethal damage early on and always making optimal trades. Midrange decks have the option to be more aggressive than Control. They are at a middle-ground between Control and Aggro if you will. Midrange decks will have a few cards that increase potential burst damage. To be able to push for damage on a whim is one of the advantages of playing Midrange, while Control is typically much slower and safer. Midrange still wants to clear, but they're not afraid to let their opponent have some minions on board in order to setup lethal in the coming turns. Control decks have burst in the form of Argent Commander, and Al'Akir the Windlord + Rockbiter Weapon(s), but not nearly as much as Midrange.
So how do you differentiate Control Shaman from Midrange Shaman? What cards do you look for? To earn a greater understanding, I will dissect two popular Shaman decklists that are correctly labeled, and discuss what makes them different from each other.
Control Shaman:
Notable Cards: x2 Argent Commander, x1 Chillwind Yeti, x2 Defender of Argus.
Midrange Shaman:
Notable Cards: x1 Bloodlust, x1 Doomhammer, x1 Lava Burst, x1 Lightning Storm, x2 Violet Teacher.
Card Choices
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Conclusion
Control and Midrange Shamans depart from each other because of card choices that affect play-style. Control Shamans use safer cards that trade well with the opponent's board, while Midrange Shamans choose cards that give them more burst damage potential. Know what to look for when labeling your own Shaman decklist. If the deck is slower with ample removal, does not have the flexibility to push for face damage early on, and uses cards that trade better rather than tech cards, it is a Control deck. If the deck sacrifices safety for added burst damage potential it is a Midrange deck. Control and Midrange decklists do have strong similarities in the Class specific spells they use, but key cards set them apart that completely change the way games play out.
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Great question, solvikaaber. A Control Shaman's goal is to do just that, control the game. Midrange Shamans are typically more aggressive than a Control decklist. If you notice under the Midrange decklists, you'll see cards such as Spiteful Smith, Lava Burst, and Bloodlust. These cards turn a typical Control decklist, into a more flexible one that can be aggressive on a whim. "Midrange" is the middle-ground between Control and Aggro.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
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Adurin, this thread turned out to be a resounding success. I know the Hearthpwn community will appreciate the effort you put into making these lists. Job well done.
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Yes, our Class Mods are hard at work making their Class Stickies something to behold. I've had a look at them, and they're coming along quite nicely! Expect them to be published in the coming weeks.
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Your deck has been featured in the Shaman Information Hub under "Decklists". Congrats!