Hearthpwn

there has been so many strong cards and amazing synergies added so far, i dont know what people are complaining about honestly, lost in the jungle + tarim alone is going to be a huge swing in tempo no matter how good their board state is, and paladin get a class only sludge belcher, hydrologist even without murlocs is an amazing 2 drop that is relevant late game. Oh did you want to just faceroll to rank 5? then you are in the wrong forum

kinda of like the old quarter master combo, but this will only cost 5 mana with Lost in the Jungle but not as powerful for tempo

not sure how useful adapt will be on 1/1's, we will have to see how many whirlwind effects are in the meta to judge

Starting hand = 1 mana quest, 6 mana buff,  8 mana dinosize, coin

LOL?

6....spells....on your minions, blizzard W.T.F

great reward, can just make it stealth to avoid removal and get value no matter what to bad you will never see this card, even if handbuffs counted

well see just zero play, cant even put spells to speed up the process in a handbuff deck, this is a new low for team 5 and paladin

 warriors and paladins dont have removal because they have the best weapons and lots of healing/armor, they would be OP as fu** with hard removals

its a shame there's lots of power creep that makes conscecrate look bad but that goes for every AOE, aoe has been lacking for all classes since standard started thats why aggro/mid shaman and pirate warrior have been dominating for this long

paladin just need better early game minions and a new weapon that is as good as truesilver or better,  back in TGT Paladin wasent complaining at all

With Lost in the Jungle this card is even better now

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If I wasn't afraid I was speaking to deaf ears, I could go on and on about how amazing this card is.

I was actually very much hoping this exact card with this exact text and cost would be printed with this set after seeing the paladin legendary. I think there's a very good chance the paladin quest is based around summoning silver hand recruits. If that's the case, this along with Stand Against Darkness plus Sunkeeper Tarim will be imperative, but it doesn't end there.

Lost in the Jungle is a more flexible and more balanced form of Muster for Battle. On turn 3, you get the same thing as you do with muster for battle, just not the weapon, which was what added so much power to that card. In addition, the card is a lot more flexible since it costs just 1 mana, allowing you to weave it in with any form of token or silver hand recruit synergy. At worst, it's a Living Roots on turn 1 which is a very common play in druid. I believe tokens are strongest in the paladin class with druid's more recent card releases bringing it to a close second. We don't even know what cards are still to be announced; if there's even a hint of quartermaster-like synergy to come, lost in the jungle could become a near broken card.

Like I said, I could go on. I rated the card meta-defining. I might actually be more excited for Lost in the Jungle than any other card announced so far.

in any other class, its whatever, but for paladin this is really good because they dont have any big burst from their class cards once anyfin rotates out , finally paladin can be really threatening if you are <15 without needing 4 murlocs dead and needing 20 mana, it requires board pressence, but if even 1 token survives the following turn you can use this for a 8 mana pyroblast that leaves a threatening 10/10, 

This card does so much, for one card, like holy shit I dont think ive ever seen a card with this much versatility, stalling, healing, removal, tempo, defense, the most well designed card ive seen from Team 5

going to see so much play, free spells attached to cheap minions no matter how bad they are is always broken, getaway kodo with galvatron and tirion is going to be nuts, best part about this card is you get secrets without having to put secrets in your deck

I mean, it's predictable that everyone's mind goes straight to Tirion Fordring, but he's probably not the greatest target for it. It's not like you're going to get full use out of Ashbringer before he dies again.

I'd pick a better deathrattle, possibly even Bolvar, Fireblood if the board is right.

Isn't it about time we had a spell taunt or a "take no damage from spells on your opponents turn" minion or something with that flavour. I would try and make the card myself and submit it to you guys but don't even know how to lol.

Mages get ice block which is the closest thing I guess but not the same as what I mean. The answer cant be a secret or a spell because only 3 classes have secrets and neutral spells don't exist.

I do know I am sick of loosing games from a winning position because spells. Obviously Mage is the worst offender but pretty much all classes can pull this off and they are they're chuckling away as your definite win turns into a loss.

Why is this not a mechanic already? if there is a real reason someone please explain because it feels real bad loosing this way.

I just hope pal also gets some other good divine shield or divine shield buff things for the synergy :\ this expansion pally looks weak in comparrison to the other classes.

Quote from Sincere >>

Rip Argent Squire

Why have all the cool, human holy warriors got such small statlines? :(

Just want one meaty, righteous defender of the light! (Tirion excluded)

All that aside, very useful as a delay with taunt and divine shield. :D

Looks like the overrated card of the set to me. In an ideal case she's Wickerflame Burnbristle with +1/+1 for 1 more mana. Last time I checked he was a decent anti aggro tool, not a deck defining build-around, so a card on his statline doesn't seem like a game changer. Downvote me all you like, but I just don't see it.

I start thinking this is the best paladin legendary ever, even the excelent Tirion is not better than him.

Short version-  
 
Ungoro hasn't done enough to nerf Pirate Warrior, its still ruining the game.
 
Longer version- 
 
So yes, this probably isn't the first ever 'nerf aggro' thread you've read and if you think the games fine with PW the way it is, you can probably stop reading now... 
 
However, for those who like a little variety, im sure you're as sick of pirate warrior as I am. Its boring, unskilled and makes 80% of the games cards unplayable. I've played hearthstone since close to beta, legend a few times and seen people getting fed up of warlock zoo / hunter cancer but they weren't regular turn 5 winners and weren't game breaking. Its time for Blizzard to have a hard look at overpowered aggro and do something about it. In its current state I wouldnt recommend the game to a friend..
 
Playing on Wild EU with a control priest deck at rank 5, ive played about 30 pirate warriors and about 5 other decks... theres a clear problem. Yes, I've changed my deck to include every anti PW card there is, but its a sad state of affairs that you have to tech 4/5 cards to beat one archetype.  
 
Playing Standard EU, less pirate % and Im running a taunt paladin to hard counter it, but still too many? 
 
What personally annoys me is the imbalance between control and aggro, not necessarily in win %, but in risk/reward. If a control deck plays a ranked game and it lasts 20 minutes, they get the same 'reward' as an aggro deck that wins in 2.. so theres no real incentive to play control decks in ranked... 
 
Under the umbrella of constructive criticism a few ideas off the top of my head (Just ideas don't freak out ^^)- 
- Increase Hero hp to 35  
- Nerf the synergy of pirate warrior/ make weapons take a turn to get ready? / give pirates conditions a bit like elementals... 
- Allow users to block facing one certain archetype in ranked. 
- Give control decks bigger rewards for winning? (E.g 2 stars instead of 1) 
 
So to sum up quickly- 
Frequent Turn 5 wins to unskilled, boring decks is a problem 
80% of cards seem unplayable  
Control needs more love

Hello mates my name is GiraffeDeity and I want to know if this happens to any of you or you are affected by this "problem".

I've been playing Hearthstone since Naxx, and lately in this last few expansions I've noticed that the game gets a little easier everytime. Somehow players find these easy and broken decks that are not fun to play against for players like me who like matches to be like a game of chess and require critical thinking and analysis in order to play. Decks like Pirate Warrior, Aggro Shaman, Jades, (and to include) the Legendary Undertaker Hunter, and many more decks like that were both easy and broken to play with. Its just tiring having to play against these uninteractive decks that don't make both players interact with the game. I'm not saying it's difficult for me to ladder or that i'm a whiner who doesn't like challenges. I build my own decks and ladder with them easily. I reached Legend only 3 times, in WotOG with a Control Dragon Priest and with a Shadow Priest the season after. And the 3rd was with another non-Reno Shadow Priest in Gadgetzan last season. Very different decks from what everyone was playing. And now all there is in the ladder are Pirates (again), the uniteractive and easy Taunt Warrior and the unfair and uninteractive Quest Mage. I'm not whining and crying because i can't compete with others. I'm just saying it's kind of tiring to play against decks that require no skill and are broken while I take my time building my decks and thinking my plays. I just want to know if there is anyone out there with the same thoughts as me. (Sorry if bad English, not native speaker)