Hearthpwn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJZiyuyOT1c

49:30

Some guy asked about MTG formats, and he says they are planning "radical stuff" which would be announced, and says they will use the digital format of hearthstone to solve these issues. 

This IMO is waaaaaay more exciting than the expansion. This has potential to make even more new cards payable in a changing meta.

Followed by 3 people clapping. Yeah. Sounds like the community is VERY sure that they will start using the digital format's advantages. You know, since they swiftly nerfed patron and patch the game so FREQUENTLY they can't keep up with patch notes (as per the interview with Woo on the front page.) 

Yes, I'm positive that we ALL believe they have been fine tuning the game since launch. Aside from bug fixes, they have only KILLED certain cards.

No balance, no tweak, and any effort to introduce new cards to counter existing strategies has failed.

MTG for a LONG time didn't have the instant changing of cards that HS could. Know what they did? They SAID "this card is too strong, you can't use it anymore." And a friend of a friend told you and you asked the tourney organizer to check the rules, and they called someone, and verified." So yeah. You can't use it.

It's not like they can't balance. They have done it with ALL the RTS's they have put out. HOTS gets weekly BALANCE patches.

Hearthstone gets bug fixes.

Not the same. Not keeping me here.

Geez i thought i was the pessimist.

Quote from HailtheHail >>

what does mtg mean? i presume not magic the gathering as google says

 

Its not entirely true to say that only the newest expansions can be played competitively. That is only one format out of many. That being said it would make sense to make multiple ladders, one where any card can be played, and one where only say the latest expansion and adventure can be played. Would make entirely different metas. Or maybe make expansion specific ladders. There is a lot of stuff they could play with. 

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Its not entirely true to say that only the newest expansions can be played competitively. That is only one format out of many. That being said it would make sense to make multiple ladders, one where any card can be played, and one where only say the latest expansion and adventure can be played. Would make entirely different metas. Or maybe make expansion specific ladders. There is a lot of stuff they could play with. 

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Geez i thought i was the pessimist.

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thank you for the answer.

what do you mean by digitial format

Everyone in Blizzard knows the only way to fix power creep is by adding more RNG.

I'll bet you 30 packs that this so called "drastic change" is RNG related.

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Everyone in Blizzard knows the only way to fix power creep is by adding more RNG.

I'll bet you 30 packs that this so called "drastic change" is RNG related.

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This comes from the guy that said nerfing cards in HS is not ok since the cards dont feel "real" that way.

This comes from the guy that said patron is a fine deck and ok since it is hard to play, 2 weeks before they nerfed it.

This comes from the guy that said that 9+ dechslots are to difficult for the average player.

Yuck, everytime Ben Brode opens his mouth I want to puke.

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Lulz, it seems that HearthPwn is full of CCG/TCG balance and card designers. You have no freakin insight on how the game internally runs, what are the possible problems and heuristics behind nerfs/buffs and you think you know more than the main head guy in the game's team. XD

 

 radical changes to fight power creep: instead of releasing good new cards blizz will release crap like most tgt and loe card.

Don't get your hopes up guys. This is the guy who decided to kill Warsong instead of nerfing Mysterious.

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Quote from HailtheHail >>

thank you for the answer.

what do you mean by digitial format

 In MTG, cards are printed on paper, and out of the over 10000 cards, over 9500 are out of print. For balancing, they cannot do nerfs, they can only do bans, and a ban can mean that the value of a card that costs 100 dollars drops to 20 dollars overnight. You play 4 copies of a card in a deck, so you lose 320 dollars, but also the entire deck that costs over 1500 dollars can become unplayable, and other cards played in that deck drop as well. THEY STILL DO IT IF ITS NECESSARY TO FIX A BROKEN META.

Hearthstone can actually nerf cards, not ban them, and can reimburse players for the dust they lost. Yet hearthstone is perfectly fine with allowing most decks to be 29 cards + boom, or 27 cards + boom + 2x shredder.

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Quote from HailtheHail >>

thank you for the answer.

what do you mean by digitial format

 In MTG, cards are printed on paper, and out of the over 10000 cards, over 9500 are out of print. For balancing, they cannot do nerfs, they can only do bans, and a ban can mean that the value of a card that costs 100 dollars drops to 20 dollars overnight. You play 4 copies of a card in a deck, so you lose 320 dollars, but also the entire deck that costs over 1500 dollars can become unplayable, and other cards played in that deck drop as well. THEY STILL DO IT IF ITS NECESSARY TO FIX A BROKEN META.

Hearthstone can actually nerf cards, not ban them, and can reimburse players for the dust they lost. Yet hearthstone is perfectly fine with allowing most decks to be 29 cards + boom, or 27 cards + boom + 2x shredder.

There's a dual purpose behind MTG bans. Aside from managing power creep, I think the primary reason for bans is to force players to buy new cards and make money.

The power level of MTG certainly wouldn't be out of control if they allowed more sets like the Modern format but for the longest time we've been restricted to two 3-set blocks. 

The Hearthstone team would be really stupid to patch old cards to make them good  (or nerf instead of outright ban cards). It doesn't make financial sense. I expect rotations in Hearthstone just like Magic.

He said absolutely nothing about power creep, where the hell did you get that from? Power creep isn't even an issue.

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Don't get your hopes up guys. This is the guy who decided to kill Warsong instead of nerfing Mysterious.

People talk about how MTG bans loads of cards in order to improve the meta, but if you actually look at the numbers they really don't.  Let's take modern format as an example.  There are 32 banned cards in this format, which sounds like a lot until you realise that there are ten thousand cards in total in this format.  So that's actually only about 0.33% of cards which are banned.  Hearthstone, by comparison, only has something like 700 cards in total.