I'm currently rank 9 running exclusively Patron and Reno Warrior decks. From a quick look at your Patron list, it lacks any big legendaries outside of Grom. If you have them, I'd throw in a Loatheb and a Dr. Boom.
In Patron, you never want to run Brawl because your focus is flooding the board, so that card won't help you.
Commanding Shout doesn't produce additional Patrons if used on a Patron with 1 HP, so it's not of much use. I'd replace it with another Inner Rage.
One problem I see with the lists is that you don't have Dr. Boom. Although its not entirely necessary, it is a very strong card that is usually run in all of the decks mentioned above. Not putting him in would be a big reason on why you haven't passed rank 11.
Firstly with the patron deck, you have way too many replacements for the real lists and its a deck that is very hard to have replacements for. Annoy-O-Tron, Brawl and Ogrimmar Aspirant are all useless / anti synergy cards for the deck. Annoy-O-Tron's divine shield gets pinged off buy the multiple whirlwind effects patron has and it's very hard to activate battle rage with it, a very important card draw mechanic. I take it you don't have armor smith but you really can't run patron without armor smith. Armorsmith's high health and ability to gain back armor as well as being able to withstand whirlwind effects and activate battle rage makes it one of the key cards against aggro and one of the reasons why patron is very good against other aggro decks and freeze mage.
Brawl is a very bad board clearer for this deck because usually you want to be the one that asserts board control. Patron doesn't need a board clear against aggro since the combination of whirlwind effects and patrons already act as one and against control, brawl is a really crappy board clearer since they usually only play one minion at a time. Replace with a dread corsair or something
Your weapons don't need buffs and hero powering is generally bad in patron. Replace with some other card like another frothing berserker. it's a great card because it puts early game pressure and is hard to deal with in the early game against control decks (unless playing against control warrior.)
Commanding shout is mega useless since Patron's don't have charge.
Inner rage is better than cruel taskmaster in this deck. It's like playing cruel taskmaster for 0 mana instead of 2. Cruel taskmaster isn't a bad card in patron, it's just inner rage is better. (For example turn 8 you can inner rage + from for 12 instead of doing the same exact thing for 10 mana.)
Also, WHY IS THERE NO ACOLYTE OF PAINS?! This is a very important card in the deck as it will usually draw you 2 cards and/or help you activate battle rage. Get rid of those other useless cards mentioned above and add these in somewhere.
Mortal Strike is somewhat reasonable but doesn't fit the style of the deck. It's not an aggro deck, it's a midrange deck. If you don't have Dr. Boom, replace with a gnomish inventor or something.
The patron deck was probably the one that seemed the most dysfunctional (Not sure how you can get past the high ranks with the current list) but there are a bunch of problems with some of the other lists and to name a few, Kelthuzad is in tempo mage, gadgetzan auctioneer is too slow in tempo mage, there's no Dr. Boom, etc... I recommend just saving up on dust and crafting needed cards, especially Dr. Boom.
Judging from the list of epic cards you have up there however, some good decks you can craft that are relatively cheap (since you have those cards already) would be midrange druid and oil rogue. You would need to find some replacement for Dr. Boom for druid, but you should be able to reach rank 10 with it.
I would very highly recommend oil rogue for you since you already have preparation. Oil rogue's core minions don't take much dust to craft since a lot of them are common - rare cards (Violet teacher, azure drake, SI Agent, Oil), not all lists run Dr. Boom, and edwin and thalnos are, though good cards, still replaceable. I'm playing a oil rogue version in the legend ranks without Dr. Boom, Edwin, and Thalnos and I'm doing relatively well. It's a difficult deck to grasp, but once you learn it, it can really perform oustandingly because of the massive burst damage.
The zoo deck you have could use some modifications, but Dr. Boom isn't incredibly necessary in zoo and you could get to rank 10 using zoo. Take out x1 Ironbeak owl, x1 sludge belcher, x1 dire wolf alpha and replace it with x1 doom guard, x1 dark iron dwarf, and maybe echoing ooze. Should get you far enough to your goal.
I would echo a lot of these comments that your zoolock looks like the best to take deeper in the ladder.
But, rest assured, reaching Rank 10 is not as easy as people say. Especially if you don't have experience playing other top tier ladder decks, it's hard to develop the right instincts to make a good play when the clear play is not obvious.
So, take it easy on yourself. I think you can reach Rank 10 with that Zoolock deck, but don't feel bad if it's hard to do. This game is not as easy as it used to be!!
DimaDultsev and EndlessMike, I wil follow your advice and play the Zoolock deck. It is allso the deck were i lack the least amount of cards, and I think it is less complicated than my other decks to play.
I used Midrange Paladin to climb from 12 to rank 4 in about 1 week last season. I dont know why, but the deck outclassed and valued most other decks. Even managed to squeeze in some lucky wins against patrons. Now I think the meta is slow enough to play Pala again. This is the decklist I used:
You might be a little short of dust, but by looking at your collection, you can pull this deck off. You should Disenchant: Grand Crusader Blood Knight Hungry Crab Sabotage Shadowform Bestial Wrath Wee Spellstopper Avenging Wrath These are really mediocre epics which pretty much will never be used in any high level deck. Thats a total of 800 dust. + Nozdormu if you want thats 1200 dust + your 300 which is a GRAND TOTAL of 1500 dust. You should be able to craft any missing components. Another advantage of working towards this deck if even if you dont like, just craft Mysterious Challenger + secrets and viola, you have a Secret paladin deck. Which should pretty much hit legend no problem.
But thats just my opinion. You should be able to hit 10 and beyond with your version too.
Your zoo is kinda weak, due to missing Voidcaller, Mal'Ganis, but you should really consider running 2 Doomguards. It can make all the difference. Try and work towards Dragon priest/Pala/face decks?
Your play style should judge what deck you are going to use. There are some weird Mind blast priests and Malygod rogues which are kinda fun, and decently competitive, if you want a more creative, "enjoyable" path! Also, another tip, if you dont really care about a gold collection DE any gold cards, they can really help work towards strong decks faster. The extra dust can be handy. But dont DE them immediately. When you feel like you need dust, dont be hesitant to do so!
DimaDultsev and EndlessMike, I wil follow your advice and play the Zoolock deck. It is allso the deck were i lack the least amount of cards, and I think it is less complicated than my other decks to play.
Yeah, good move. But zoo isn't quite as easy as people think, so expect a few growing pains as you get better at it. It's FAR from the hardest deck to play, but it's not Face Hunter either.
Hey eliasfh, I changed my zoo deck to the one you recomended. But I don't have Sea Giant. I have not desided if I should spend all my dust and craft it. But untill then, do you have a suggestion for a sub. for sea giant?
Hey eliasfh, I changed my zoo deck to the one you recomended. But I don't have Sea Giant. I have not desided if I should spend all my dust and craft it. But untill then, do you have a suggestion for a sub. for sea giant?
I wouldn't craft sea giants just for one deck. Save your dust and grind it out. As Blue Eyes said, the deck isn't just straight face. It's trickier so don't get frustrated.
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Obi-Wan Kanobi, help me reach rank 10
My best result so far has been rank 11. Besides that i have ended up around rank 13-14.
The deck that got me to rank 11 was a warrior waepon upgrade deck, but next season it couldent get me below rank 13.
So i have set this goal for myself to reach rank 10. I guess easy for a lot of you, but apperently hard for me.
So my question is:
Am i playing my decks (see attachments) poorly, or should I be able to reach rank 10 with any of theese.
If decks is the problem, can you give me modification suggestions, or recipies for new decks that should be able to reach rank 10.
What i have to work with:
Curse of Naxxramas
The League of Explorers
Blackrock Mountain - except for "Blackwing Lair" and "The Hidden Laboratory"
Legendary cards:
Archmage Antonidas
Grommash Hellscream
Nozdurmu
Epic cards:
Force of Nature
Ancient of War
Bestial Wrath
Wee Spellstopper
Avenging Wrath
Shadowform
Lightbomb
Cabal Shadow Priest
Preparation
Sabotage
Far Sight
Ancestor's Call
Brawl
Hungry crab
Blood Knight
Grand Crusader
Dust:
345 (+ disenchanting Nozdurmu if needs be)
My decks:
Patron Warrior:
Zoo Warlock
Mech Mage
Tempo Mage
Any help or comments is very welcome
I'm currently rank 9 running exclusively Patron and Reno Warrior decks. From a quick look at your Patron list, it lacks any big legendaries outside of Grom. If you have them, I'd throw in a Loatheb and a Dr. Boom.
In Patron, you never want to run Brawl because your focus is flooding the board, so that card won't help you.
Commanding Shout doesn't produce additional Patrons if used on a Patron with 1 HP, so it's not of much use. I'd replace it with another Inner Rage.
Instead of Annoy-o-Tron you should run Dread Corsair. It synergizes well with your weapons and can trade with bigger threats than Annoy-o-Tron.
Orgrimmar Aspirant is a strange card to put in. While i buffs your weapons, it doesn't provide a threat in itself or produce Patrons. Replace it with a Piloted Shredder or another Frothing Berserker.
One problem I see with the lists is that you don't have Dr. Boom. Although its not entirely necessary, it is a very strong card that is usually run in all of the decks mentioned above. Not putting him in would be a big reason on why you haven't passed rank 11.
Firstly with the patron deck, you have way too many replacements for the real lists and its a deck that is very hard to have replacements for. Annoy-O-Tron, Brawl and Ogrimmar Aspirant are all useless / anti synergy cards for the deck. Annoy-O-Tron's divine shield gets pinged off buy the multiple whirlwind effects patron has and it's very hard to activate battle rage with it, a very important card draw mechanic. I take it you don't have armor smith but you really can't run patron without armor smith. Armorsmith's high health and ability to gain back armor as well as being able to withstand whirlwind effects and activate battle rage makes it one of the key cards against aggro and one of the reasons why patron is very good against other aggro decks and freeze mage.
Brawl is a very bad board clearer for this deck because usually you want to be the one that asserts board control. Patron doesn't need a board clear against aggro since the combination of whirlwind effects and patrons already act as one and against control, brawl is a really crappy board clearer since they usually only play one minion at a time. Replace with a dread corsair or something
Your weapons don't need buffs and hero powering is generally bad in patron. Replace with some other card like another frothing berserker. it's a great card because it puts early game pressure and is hard to deal with in the early game against control decks (unless playing against control warrior.)
Commanding shout is mega useless since Patron's don't have charge.
Inner rage is better than cruel taskmaster in this deck. It's like playing cruel taskmaster for 0 mana instead of 2. Cruel taskmaster isn't a bad card in patron, it's just inner rage is better. (For example turn 8 you can inner rage + from for 12 instead of doing the same exact thing for 10 mana.)
Also, WHY IS THERE NO ACOLYTE OF PAINS?! This is a very important card in the deck as it will usually draw you 2 cards and/or help you activate battle rage. Get rid of those other useless cards mentioned above and add these in somewhere.
Mortal Strike is somewhat reasonable but doesn't fit the style of the deck. It's not an aggro deck, it's a midrange deck. If you don't have Dr. Boom, replace with a gnomish inventor or something.
The patron deck was probably the one that seemed the most dysfunctional (Not sure how you can get past the high ranks with the current list) but there are a bunch of problems with some of the other lists and to name a few, Kelthuzad is in tempo mage, gadgetzan auctioneer is too slow in tempo mage, there's no Dr. Boom, etc... I recommend just saving up on dust and crafting needed cards, especially Dr. Boom.
Judging from the list of epic cards you have up there however, some good decks you can craft that are relatively cheap (since you have those cards already) would be midrange druid and oil rogue. You would need to find some replacement for Dr. Boom for druid, but you should be able to reach rank 10 with it.
I would very highly recommend oil rogue for you since you already have preparation. Oil rogue's core minions don't take much dust to craft since a lot of them are common - rare cards (Violet teacher, azure drake, SI Agent, Oil), not all lists run Dr. Boom, and edwin and thalnos are, though good cards, still replaceable. I'm playing a oil rogue version in the legend ranks without Dr. Boom, Edwin, and Thalnos and I'm doing relatively well. It's a difficult deck to grasp, but once you learn it, it can really perform oustandingly because of the massive burst damage.
The zoo deck you have could use some modifications, but Dr. Boom isn't incredibly necessary in zoo and you could get to rank 10 using zoo. Take out x1 Ironbeak owl, x1 sludge belcher, x1 dire wolf alpha and replace it with x1 doom guard, x1 dark iron dwarf, and maybe echoing ooze. Should get you far enough to your goal.
Before crafting anything at all, you might want to consider that Standard Mode is going to come up soon™.
Dab
The Patron Warrior deck:
I removed Brawl, Commanding shout, Annoy and Orgimmar like eliasfh, WaffleMonstr and daily_asian said, and replaced them with some of your suggestions.
I have craftet a Amorsmith like WaffleMonstr suggested, and a another Inner rage.
Back when I put the deck together I replaced the cards i lacked with replacements, but obviosly not the best choises.
But thank you very much because you took the time to help me with this. Your suggestions makes sence.
Yep, I'm trying not to spend dust unless it is important.
I would echo a lot of these comments that your zoolock looks like the best to take deeper in the ladder.
But, rest assured, reaching Rank 10 is not as easy as people say. Especially if you don't have experience playing other top tier ladder decks, it's hard to develop the right instincts to make a good play when the clear play is not obvious.
So, take it easy on yourself. I think you can reach Rank 10 with that Zoolock deck, but don't feel bad if it's hard to do. This game is not as easy as it used to be!!
DimaDultsev and EndlessMike, I wil follow your advice and play the Zoolock deck. It is allso the deck were i lack the least amount of cards, and I think it is less complicated than my other decks to play.
I used Midrange Paladin to climb from 12 to rank 4 in about 1 week last season. I dont know why, but the deck outclassed and valued most other decks. Even managed to squeeze in some lucky wins against patrons. Now I think the meta is slow enough to play Pala again.
This is the decklist I used:
Although i swapped out some cards i thought that maybe i didnt have, or didnt think needed in the current meta.
I run only one Quartermaster, 2 Murloc Knights, No Big Game Hunter, no Defender of Argus and no Justicar Trueheart, and also 2 Knife Jugglers. I dont run Keeper of Uldaman either ( I dont have it yet lol). I placed on Guardian of Kings in too, to beat those random face shamans i kept facing. You dont need to run Tirion Fordring. He is strong but can be replaced with another big drop. Sunwalker maybe.
You might be a little short of dust, but by looking at your collection, you can pull this deck off.
You should Disenchant:
Grand Crusader
Blood Knight
Hungry Crab
Sabotage
Shadowform
Bestial Wrath
Wee Spellstopper
Avenging Wrath
These are really mediocre epics which pretty much will never be used in any high level deck.
Thats a total of 800 dust. + Nozdormu if you want thats 1200 dust + your 300 which is a
GRAND TOTAL of 1500 dust. You should be able to craft any missing components. Another advantage of working towards this deck if even if you dont like, just craft Mysterious Challenger + secrets and viola, you have a Secret paladin deck. Which should pretty much hit legend no problem.
Just my 2 dirhams.
About your mech mage, mine is slightly different:
-2 Mana Wyrms
+1 Dr.Boom
+1 Flamestrike
But thats just my opinion. You should be able to hit 10 and beyond with your version too.
Your zoo is kinda weak, due to missing Voidcaller, Mal'Ganis, but you should really consider running 2 Doomguards. It can make all the difference. Try and work towards Dragon priest/Pala/face decks?
Your play style should judge what deck you are going to use. There are some weird Mind blast priests and Malygod rogues which are kinda fun, and decently competitive, if you want a more creative, "enjoyable" path! Also, another tip, if you dont really care about a gold collection DE any gold cards, they can really help work towards strong decks faster. The extra dust can be handy. But dont DE them immediately. When you feel like you need dust, dont be hesitant to do so!
Peece!
Zooed
Lion King: Alternate Ending ;3
Hey eliasfh, I changed my zoo deck to the one you recomended. But I don't have Sea Giant. I have not desided if I should spend all my dust and craft it. But untill then, do you have a suggestion for a sub. for sea giant?