People who say this card is bad, just isn't using it righ. One of the most powerful cards in the game right now. no doubt.
I fully agree with you. This card comboed with Hemet is powerfull, and definitely different type of playing Razakus highlander priest. I have enjoyed lately playing this kind of deck. Also someone say its not going to match aggro. Well I am doing pretty well against aggro, there are lots of card draw and small minions with couple of board wipes in my deck.
Extremely fun card/deck. Still on learning curve, casual playing at r6/3 atm.
Once the season restarts I really would like to try out a "2x of 3 cost cards, Highlander everything else" Hemet style deck with AB.
I have tried it, and it sucks. If you don't get Hemet early, you will have 3 dead draws for the majority of your games. Aggro matchups are especially bad, because you cannot utilize Kazakus and Raza before you are at least halfway through your deck. Not being able to board-wipe on turn 5 when you draw Kazakus on turn 4 is so frustrating.
Not sure what kind of deck you have tried these in. Against aggro you have to get board control before even considering using hemet. My deck has other means dealing aggro, just have to make sure you have enough card draw. helps on getting you key cards for winning as well as finding tools to deal aggro.
I think it does. I have faced a couple of control priests this season and a big portion of them actually ran him.
I see that you already have him and maybe you want to know if you should put him in your deck. If I had him in my collection as well, I would most definitely do. I think that Priest has enough recovery tools (some decks even run the quest), so a value generator isn't bad imho. This is also a great tech against controllocks (i.e. Rin, the First Disciple).
is this card seeing competitive play these days ? or even before ?
Quite a few streamers have been playing Dragon Control Priest with Archbishop Benedictus and Azalina Soultheif. It's not something everyone can play, it takes some patience, you have to know the right time to play Benedictus and Azalina, and then play their deck better than they do.
Imho Azalina could be cut. I personally never saw a person using her against me (except in some Toggwaggle druid decks), but I think that she's super slow and situational. She's only useful against value/very few combo decks imho.
Imho Azalina could be cut. I personally never saw a person using her against me (except in some Toggwaggle druid decks), but I think that she's super slow and situational. She's only useful against value/very few combo decks imho.
Benedictus is safer to use.
Azalina is one of best cards and skill testing in this game, of course you don't see be played when you have so many brainless OP auto-include cards in top classes like CtA or warlock DK, I will like a lot if we have more cards like Azalina you have to think when use instead retarded cards like CtA.
is this card seeing competitive play these days ? or even before ?
It is pretty strong in Wild because Wild Control Priest varriations can afford running this card. Basically wins fatique games and you will never run out of cards nor steam for you Shadowreaper Heropower. So yeah. it is pretty good. In Standart it sees play in varriations that are not trying to burn you down.
just FYI you don't HAVE to play Benedictus on 7, even in an aggro matchup.
Wow really? I had no idea.
Instead of being snarky, you could realize that what I was saying is that fatigue doesn't matter anywhere near as much in metagames that aren't this slow.
IIRC, it had less to do with a slow meta and more to do with the fact that Jade Idol killed fatigue as a win condition, and Control Priest with Fatigue as the win condition simply wasn't as good as Razakus Priest. There were versions of Razakus that ran Benedictus however. I'm just saying...it's not a bad card that's suddenly good because the meta is slow and people aren't putting garbage into their deck....it always WAS a good card, but fatigue wasn't really an option.
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I would defend my favourite class and its powerful DK, but I don't want to start a needless war and this isn't the place to do it. Look mate, the problem with Azalina are not the cards you mentioned, the issue comes only from her. She's super slow (she costs 7 mana and you probably can't do anything powerful with the remaining 3 mana crystals), she's super weak (3/3 stats and thus an auto dead draw against faster decks) and thus very situational, as under normal circumstances you don't want to copy the opponent's hand unless they play a value deck or a combo one with mosts of its pieces.
As an example - old-school control priest would never want to replace their hand with the one of an old-school control warrior, just because priest has stronger removal tools than them, which also offer the Priest player the possiblity to gain card advantage over their opponent (Entomb). Old-school warrior mainly consists of anti-aggro cards, which would be depleted quickly once priests starts to play threats after threats. In other words - the quality of the cards of the control priest player is much higher than the one of the warrior one.
Another example - control priest versus Big Spell mage and by that I mean the scenario, when the mage player already played their powerful DK or it's still sitting somewhere in their deck. The other cards, which the mage posseses are just board clears, which are designed to synergise with the upgraded mage HP. In both cases Archbishop Benedictus would be the winning card, because such decks often play to fatigue and the priest legendary helps them win the fatigue war. Not to mention, that Benedictus doesn't disrupt their hand (the priest player doesn't lose resources in the process) and he comes with a good body.
An example where Azalina would be better, would be as a "tech" against some combo decks and especially Quest Mage. In this case I would most definitely agree with what you said, that it takes good timing and good hand reading in order to gain the most in that MU. But this is just a rare case. You don't see combo decks that often and even if you do, you might not draw the key card on time. Sooo I don't know why you try to discuss it with me, but Azalina is very clunky. She functions pretty well in meme druid decks just because druid has excellent drawing tools.
uhmm i think the reason it was considered bad was because Jade Idol existed and people thought Dead Man's Hand would be something, so he had no place in the meta but with idol in wild and DMH losing its best card in Coldlight Oraclehe sees play, i've also seen wild versions of priest where you use Skulking Geist and then playing him
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is this card seeing competitive play these days ? or even before ?
I think it does. I have faced a couple of control priests this season and a big portion of them actually ran him.
I see that you already have him and maybe you want to know if you should put him in your deck. If I had him in my collection as well, I would most definitely do. I think that Priest has enough recovery tools (some decks even run the quest), so a value generator isn't bad imho. This is also a great tech against controllocks (i.e. Rin, the First Disciple).
Imho Azalina could be cut. I personally never saw a person using her against me (except in some Toggwaggle druid decks), but I think that she's super slow and situational. She's only useful against value/very few combo decks imho.
Benedictus is safer to use.
The reasons everyone previous said this card was bad - and the reasons I said it was good - are now being used to justify why it's good.
* wins the fatigue game
* your opponent puts good cards in their deck, so adding that to your own deck isn't "diluting" it.
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IIRC, it had less to do with a slow meta and more to do with the fact that Jade Idol killed fatigue as a win condition, and Control Priest with Fatigue as the win condition simply wasn't as good as Razakus Priest. There were versions of Razakus that ran Benedictus however. I'm just saying...it's not a bad card that's suddenly good because the meta is slow and people aren't putting garbage into their deck....it always WAS a good card, but fatigue wasn't really an option.
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I would defend my favourite class and its powerful DK, but I don't want to start a needless war and this isn't the place to do it. Look mate, the problem with Azalina are not the cards you mentioned, the issue comes only from her. She's super slow (she costs 7 mana and you probably can't do anything powerful with the remaining 3 mana crystals), she's super weak (3/3 stats and thus an auto dead draw against faster decks) and thus very situational, as under normal circumstances you don't want to copy the opponent's hand unless they play a value deck or a combo one with mosts of its pieces.
As an example - old-school control priest would never want to replace their hand with the one of an old-school control warrior, just because priest has stronger removal tools than them, which also offer the Priest player the possiblity to gain card advantage over their opponent (Entomb). Old-school warrior mainly consists of anti-aggro cards, which would be depleted quickly once priests starts to play threats after threats. In other words - the quality of the cards of the control priest player is much higher than the one of the warrior one.
Another example - control priest versus Big Spell mage and by that I mean the scenario, when the mage player already played their powerful DK or it's still sitting somewhere in their deck. The other cards, which the mage posseses are just board clears, which are designed to synergise with the upgraded mage HP. In both cases Archbishop Benedictus would be the winning card, because such decks often play to fatigue and the priest legendary helps them win the fatigue war. Not to mention, that Benedictus doesn't disrupt their hand (the priest player doesn't lose resources in the process) and he comes with a good body.
An example where Azalina would be better, would be as a "tech" against some combo decks and especially Quest Mage. In this case I would most definitely agree with what you said, that it takes good timing and good hand reading in order to gain the most in that MU. But this is just a rare case. You don't see combo decks that often and even if you do, you might not draw the key card on time. Sooo I don't know why you try to discuss it with me, but Azalina is very clunky. She functions pretty well in meme druid decks just because druid has excellent drawing tools.
uhmm i think the reason it was considered bad was because Jade Idol existed and people thought Dead Man's Hand would be something, so he had no place in the meta but with idol in wild and DMH losing its best card in Coldlight Oraclehe sees play, i've also seen wild versions of priest where you use Skulking Geist and then playing him