So with the new expansion of MSG we see three new cards: Inkmaster Solia, Kazakus, Krul the UnshackledRaza the Chained. These three are very powerful in Reno decks and are extremely useful, but personally, I believe that non of them are worth playing without Reno in the deck. Does anyone have a different opinion? What do people think of this? Please share.
They will hopefully give Highlander decks more support, but without the mistake of creating again such an extreme and polarising card as Reno Jackson.
I doubt they will let the whole Highlander archetype die. It is now too widespread and for more than one class.
In that case tho, risk is that Highlander decks completely kill Aggro and Midrange in Wild, making the whole mode a Control one, which would be unhealthy.
Reno mage is definitely fun, one of my favorites, but I am not a huge fan of this meta with only one viable deck in both Mage and Warlock (none in Hunter and Paladin). Although it would be foolish to print all these fun cards like Inkmaster Solia (which is considered sub-par for Reno Mage many times anyway), just to erase the whole singleton concept in HS. I would really appreciate Reno in classic, but if he has to go, maybe we see some new viable Mage archetype.
I think it's too early to speculate on the impact of Reno on Reno decks until the next expansion drops and we see the cards that will replace it. Blizz will obviously have a plan to replace the healing (or give damage instead) lost by Reno but maybe not as OP.
Reno leaving standard should open design space for better neutral healing. However, in general, I would expect Highlander decks to fall out of viability at the rotation, both because of the loss of Reno and because the card pool will shrink dramatically, inherently reducing the power level of the Highlander archetype. Similar to Dragon Priest, I think we're seeing a last hurrah before the archetype disappearing from the meta for a while.
I wonder if we won't see a little bit of Highlander support in the last expansion of each year, since that is the time when the archetype will have the most tools. This would ensure a finite window of viability for the archetype.
It will indeed be quite odd if Reno rotates out few months after Blizzard decided to make Kabal a faction.
It's also quite 'unfair/odd' that they've decided to rotate many expansions simultanously instead of one at a time with each new release. This leaves the game with an uneven time spam each expansion has been in Standard. This is how old each rotating set is:
Blackrock Mountain: 20 months
The Grand Tournament: 16 months
The League of Explorers: 13 months
So just to be clear. A card like Flamewaker has been in the game to play for a period of 7 months longer than a card like Brann Bronzebeard.
Honestly I think they should NOT let Reno go to Classic. Instead I think all cards should be in Standard for exactly 20 months before they rotate. Or 16, take your pick.
EZ, people will try to make real fucking decks with synergies and strategies in mind not a watered down shit and luck determined version of control that can't win without one card.
Buccaneer+Patches T1 = Reno ripped on T6
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So with the new expansion of MSG we see three new cards: Inkmaster Solia, Kazakus, Krul the Unshackled Raza the Chained. These three are very powerful in Reno decks and are extremely useful, but personally, I believe that non of them are worth playing without Reno in the deck. Does anyone have a different opinion? What do people think of this? Please share.
How are there so many duplicate threads about decks that can have no duplicates?
They will hopefully give Highlander decks more support, but without the mistake of creating again such an extreme and polarising card as Reno Jackson.
I doubt they will let the whole Highlander archetype die. It is now too widespread and for more than one class.
In that case tho, risk is that Highlander decks completely kill Aggro and Midrange in Wild, making the whole mode a Control one, which would be unhealthy.
Reno mage is definitely fun, one of my favorites, but I am not a huge fan of this meta with only one viable deck in both Mage and Warlock (none in Hunter and Paladin). Although it would be foolish to print all these fun cards like Inkmaster Solia (which is considered sub-par for Reno Mage many times anyway), just to erase the whole singleton concept in HS. I would really appreciate Reno in classic, but if he has to go, maybe we see some new viable Mage archetype.
I think it's too early to speculate on the impact of Reno on Reno decks until the next expansion drops and we see the cards that will replace it. Blizz will obviously have a plan to replace the healing (or give damage instead) lost by Reno but maybe not as OP.
Reno leaving standard should open design space for better neutral healing. However, in general, I would expect Highlander decks to fall out of viability at the rotation, both because of the loss of Reno and because the card pool will shrink dramatically, inherently reducing the power level of the Highlander archetype. Similar to Dragon Priest, I think we're seeing a last hurrah before the archetype disappearing from the meta for a while.
I wonder if we won't see a little bit of Highlander support in the last expansion of each year, since that is the time when the archetype will have the most tools. This would ensure a finite window of viability for the archetype.
It will indeed be quite odd if Reno rotates out few months after Blizzard decided to make Kabal a faction.
It's also quite 'unfair/odd' that they've decided to rotate many expansions simultanously instead of one at a time with each new release. This leaves the game with an uneven time spam each expansion has been in Standard. This is how old each rotating set is:
Blackrock Mountain: 20 months
The Grand Tournament: 16 months
The League of Explorers: 13 months
So just to be clear. A card like Flamewaker has been in the game to play for a period of 7 months longer than a card like Brann Bronzebeard.
Honestly I think they should NOT let Reno go to Classic. Instead I think all cards should be in Standard for exactly 20 months before they rotate. Or 16, take your pick.
EZ, people will try to make real fucking decks with synergies and strategies in mind not a watered down shit and luck determined version of control that can't win without one card.
Buccaneer+Patches T1 = Reno ripped on T6
The 1st step towards a better game is firing Mike Donais! We had enough of his "skillful" balances!
#FireMikeDonais
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