Ive been playing handlock on ladders and i have a 100% lose rate to hunter , they just always seem to have the right cards , are there any cards that i can replace in my handlock deck to make it more anti aggro? here is my current deck list : http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/149630-handlock
Deck looks perfectly fine to me, there could be a number of things u are doing wrong.
Make sure to always mulligan for molten giants and always act like he is going to KC your face when u get to about 15 hp.
I lose to handlock when they normally clear my board with hellfire which bring's them into molten range and then they antique heal bot to around 15 hp.
Also do anything u can to slow a hunter down, if ye gets a fast start and u can't put taunts down or pick off 1 of his dangerous minions it can be very tough.
I normally play an ancient watcher turn 2 and either taunt it or shadowflame it. Maybe u are not able to do this because your running ogre brutes instead I haven't ran a handlock with ogre brute so I don't really know.
Coining out a shadowflame or twilight drake on turn 3 is quite good though.
Really though, your best bet is to watch experts play the deck on Twitch or YouTube. Think about what decisions you would make, and why they chose differently (or the same.) Kolento is considered the best Handlock player in the world if you can find some videos.
Trump was running a very decent deck that did a really nice job against Hunter. You can find VoDs of this decklist played over his YouTube channel. (He had noticeable progress with it on ladder specially against Hunter for quite a while, though the vods are kinda late, so I don't know if he still runs it currently or not)
You can't harass members who play Face Hunter, nor are they compelled to make preemptive apologies or justifications for playing it. They don't hack or crack their opponents' game, they simply play existing cards that form a specific deck. If you suck at countering Face Hunter, you should blame the designers, not the community.
Where are the Ancient Watchers? Besides the AOE spells they are your answer to really fast decks. You can taunt them up on turn 3 via Sunfury Protector or take out their entire board of piddly critters with a Shadowflame on turn 4. It is kind of a crap card in general, but Ancient Watcher is what gives handlock some teeth against hunter, zoo, murloc, and other rush decks. Problem is that against a proper rush deck, taunting up a 0 mana Molten Giant on turn 4 or 5 is usually too little too late, since everyone is running some direct damage spells to finish you off. You need to slow them down and keep from getting that low on health so fast, which is where the watchers come in to save the day.
Trump was running a very decent deck that did a really nice job against Hunter. You can find VoDs of this decklist played over his YouTube channel. (He had noticeable progress with it on ladder specially against Hunter for quite a while, though the vods are kinda late, so I don't know if he still runs it currently or not)
i think clearing the first watcher is pretty important. ive found when i do that and still have something of a board i do ok vs handlock. the hardest part now is having the gas to finish. i dont like any of the current card draw options for hunter now.
I would remove one Mountain Giant because it will almost always be a dead card against Hunter. Also I would replace the Ogre Brutes with Ancient Watchers because they cost one less and have greater stats, can be dropped earlier and silenced to help stop the aggro or shadowflamed for 1 less mana. Other than that the deck looks like it should be able to handle Hunter as long as the Hunter doesn't get really good draws.
Never had much trouble with Hunter. Of course at my ranks people don't seem to know how to play Hunter very well at all. Against aggro decks you must mulligan for watchers or it's over.
try running watchers instead of ogre brutes. Handlock is not about putting on agression, but about controlling until you can put out giants. The extra 1 health and the 1 mana discount on watcher is not worth it attacking the right the only half the time.
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Ive been playing handlock on ladders and i have a 100% lose rate to hunter , they just always seem to have the right cards , are there any cards that i can replace in my handlock deck to make it more anti aggro? here is my current deck list : http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/149630-handlock
Deck looks perfectly fine to me, there could be a number of things u are doing wrong.
Make sure to always mulligan for molten giants and always act like he is going to KC your face when u get to about 15 hp.
I lose to handlock when they normally clear my board with hellfire which bring's them into molten range and then they antique heal bot to around 15 hp.
Also do anything u can to slow a hunter down, if ye gets a fast start and u can't put taunts down or pick off 1 of his dangerous minions it can be very tough.
I normally play an ancient watcher turn 2 and either taunt it or shadowflame it. Maybe u are not able to do this because your running ogre brutes instead I haven't ran a handlock with ogre brute so I don't really know.
Coining out a shadowflame or twilight drake on turn 3 is quite good though.
You could +1 Mortal Coil and +1 Hellfire.
Really though, your best bet is to watch experts play the deck on Twitch or YouTube. Think about what decisions you would make, and why they chose differently (or the same.) Kolento is considered the best Handlock player in the world if you can find some videos.
Here's one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK9ET7d--ck
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Trump was running a very decent deck that did a really nice job against Hunter. You can find VoDs of this decklist played over his YouTube channel. (He had noticeable progress with it on ladder specially against Hunter for quite a while, though the vods are kinda late, so I don't know if he still runs it currently or not)
The first vid of it being played: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoCWRsjr8j4
You can't harass members who play Face Hunter, nor are they compelled to make preemptive apologies or justifications for playing it. They don't hack or crack their opponents' game, they simply play existing cards that form a specific deck. If you suck at countering Face Hunter, you should blame the designers, not the community.
The new Handlocks with double Antique Healbots are impossible to beat with a Hunter.
they somehow always pull off a silence and double arcane golem
Where are the Ancient Watchers? Besides the AOE spells they are your answer to really fast decks. You can taunt them up on turn 3 via Sunfury Protector or take out their entire board of piddly critters with a Shadowflame on turn 4. It is kind of a crap card in general, but Ancient Watcher is what gives handlock some teeth against hunter, zoo, murloc, and other rush decks. Problem is that against a proper rush deck, taunting up a 0 mana Molten Giant on turn 4 or 5 is usually too little too late, since everyone is running some direct damage spells to finish you off. You need to slow them down and keep from getting that low on health so fast, which is where the watchers come in to save the day.
Two Hellfire and one Zombie Chow are a must have.
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My comments refer mostly to the wild format.
i think clearing the first watcher is pretty important. ive found when i do that and still have something of a board i do ok vs handlock. the hardest part now is having the gas to finish. i dont like any of the current card draw options for hunter now.
I would remove one Mountain Giant because it will almost always be a dead card against Hunter. Also I would replace the Ogre Brutes with Ancient Watchers because they cost one less and have greater stats, can be dropped earlier and silenced to help stop the aggro or shadowflamed for 1 less mana. Other than that the deck looks like it should be able to handle Hunter as long as the Hunter doesn't get really good draws.
thanks for the tip man!
Never had much trouble with Hunter. Of course at my ranks people don't seem to know how to play Hunter very well at all. Against aggro decks you must mulligan for watchers or it's over.
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try running watchers instead of ogre brutes. Handlock is not about putting on agression, but about controlling until you can put out giants. The extra 1 health and the 1 mana discount on watcher is not worth it attacking the right the only half the time.
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-1 Siphon Soul, -1 Shadowflame, -1 Defender of Argus, +2 Zombie Chow, +1 Hellfire
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