The fact that defile requires so much set up and thought process makes it fine. you'd have to get 3 rounds of defile off to make it strictly better than a double whirlwind which is the same mana cost. It's not super infuriating because you know that your player actually had to put some thought into playing it.
It's certainly on the strong side of balance. It would probably be still fairly costed at 3 mana, but warlock has no spell-synergies whatsoever and it hits the whole board, so it's still within reason.
Yeah, lets nerf the card that brought warlock from the dumpster where it was, so it can go back. Sorry but warlock isn't supposed to have good cards at all... Seriously people like you piss me off.
The fact that defile requires so much set up and thought process makes it fine. you'd have to get 3 rounds of defile off to make it strictly better than a double whirlwind which is the same mana cost. It's not super infuriating because you know that your player actually had to put some thought into playing it.
Please stop misusing the term strictly.
How have I?
strictly better means better in every case.
If your board is leper gnome, spellbreaker, dark iron dwarf and yeti and the opponent has a full board of living mana, is defile better than 2 whirlwinds?
Although I'm not sure why they decided Warlocks were lacking in AOE...
Because they actually do. At least in the "doesn't kill yourself"-department. Hellfire is also too slow against the uber-aggro pirate warrior meta and actually helps them. Defile is a godsend and one of the few reasons warlock is actually playable atm.
I'm still surprised that it doesn't say "Deal 1 damage to all minions and your hero....." Comon' Blizz, lemme live the Warlock fantasy! I'm an all powerful wielder of demons - why can't I Defile my face?
Why? The Maximum HP of a minion is 14 (well 15 if you want to account for Jaraxxus being summoned by hand instead of played.) 14 Maximum casts is clearly made to make it so it can go up to an Ultrasaur. Otherwise, they would have limited it to something lower. They set a limit to stop it from going infinite with certain board states.
forgot jades, but that's the point - not an entirely board cloar but a good swipe
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I wish everyone would stop using strictly, period. It's so sheepy.
Defile is perfect. Great at times, useless at times, not something you just plop out there. Also kinda fun.
Seriously, everyone - you can't nerf cards just because they're good sometimes.
It's certainly on the strong side of balance. It would probably be still fairly costed at 3 mana, but warlock has no spell-synergies whatsoever and it hits the whole board, so it's still within reason.
Yes, considering the current status of Warlock... it's pretty fair.
definitely no, blizzard should never nerf cards that requires skill to be good, defile is one of the best designed cards in the expansion
I hate this card, but I think it is ok.
Greetings, traveler.
Let's make Hunter great.
Yeah, lets nerf the card that brought warlock from the dumpster where it was, so it can go back. Sorry but warlock isn't supposed to have good cards at all... Seriously people like you piss me off.
Morons, morons everywhere ...
defile is fine.
Had a nice AOE effect with Dragon Egg Power Overwhelming Defile combo xD
7 damage to all
(for decks in which 2 hellfires, 2 felfire potions, 2 twisting nethers and 2 doom!s isn't quite enough)
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I wouldn't mind if it costed one more mana, but I don't think it's really overpowered.
It's similar to Potion of Madness in that it's incredibly good value under the right circumstances, but a bit of "meh" draw otherwise.
Although I'm not sure why they decided Warlocks were lacking in AOE...
People in this thread seem to be confusing defile and rocket science.
I don't think it's broken. But IF they'd nerf it they'd first have to fix Voidform, Jade Idol and something with rogue.
Fuck cubelock
I'm still surprised that it doesn't say "Deal 1 damage to all minions and your hero....." Comon' Blizz, lemme live the Warlock fantasy! I'm an all powerful wielder of demons - why can't I Defile my face?
I REALLY like Defile as card design, and don't think it is OP at all.
It is a situationally good effect that hits both sides of the board. It is super not over powered it has so many conditions to be useful.
It is also relatively easy, and most importantly really interesting to play around.
Can we nerf internet grammar trolls?
Absolutely not.
maybe just shorten the limit from 14 to 5 or 7