BRM Taunt - Rank 5 to Legend
- Last updated May 2, 2015 (Blackrock Launch)
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Wild
- 22 Minions
- 8 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 7260
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 4/27/2015 (Blackrock Launch)
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This deck is getting some votes, so I am working on a guide. This is a work in progress, and I shall be updating this throughout the day today.
FYI - Apparently I have 2 accounts, I am both "Nexusrage" and "ScorchPC" on these forums, so if you see comments from "ScorchPC" that is also me. Sorry for the confusion!
I went from Rank 5 to legend with this deck, with a high win rate (16-2 89% just for the day that I went from Rank 3-Legend).
Legend Proof:
Climbing!
http://imgur.com/g4eFPEQ
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General Strategy:
Mulligan for Zombie Chow, Innervate and Wild Growth. Most classes you can also keep 1 Wrath, except for Druid and usually not against a Warrior either.
Try to get a good curve, where you can play something each turn.
For example, plan your play 2-3 turns in advance, so that, you can do something like Turn 3 Innervate + Druid of the Claw, then turn 4 Sen'jin Shieldmasta into a turn 5 Sludge Belcher.
Or another example, turn 2 Wild Growth, turn 3 Sen'jin Shieldmasta, turn 4 Sludge Belcher or Druid of the Claw.
Once you get past the early game, this is the way to play:
1.) Do you have lethal? This turn or next. If so, do that.
2.) Does your opponent have lethal next turn. If so, do what you have to do to avoid that (e.g. Heal with Ancient of Lore, drop a taunt, etc.)
3.) Have a plan to win. Plan out the exact cards you need, and how you will react to their threats.
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Aggro - You really want to get Zombie Chow in this match up. Druid of the Flame is also good in this match up, especially if you can Innervate into it on turn one, or Coin + Wild Growth on turn one, followed by Druid of the Flame turn 2 and Sen'jin Shieldmasta or Keeper of the Grove turn 3.
Wrath - This card can be good, if you have a solid follow up. Having a board presence early against aggro is a must, but you also need to do things like; kill Knife Juggler, Mech Warper, Huffer, etc. So, if you have something to follow up with this card, then keep it, else you need to mulligan it.
Other solid plays are turn 1/2 Sen'jin Shieldmasta or Druid of the Claw.
If you find yourself having to choose between Druid of the Claw and Sludge Belcher and you know your opponent uses a silence (e.g. Owl), then use the Druid of the Claw. On the other hand, if you know your opponent can easily kill your taunt (e.g. Hunter's Mark, with the board, etc) then play the Sludge Belcher as the 1/2 taunt it leaves behind will help to stabilize.
Lastly, in aggro match ups you also highly value Swipe, particularly against Face Hunter and Zoo/Demon locks. If you are going 2nd or have a good curve, consider keeping Swipe in your opening hand. But if you are going 1st, and do not have a good curve, the mulligan it.
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Mid-Range / Tempo / Control
Out value them. Your minions are bigger, and over time they will not have answers. Just keep making good trades until you can overwhelm them. Don't over commit your board (e.g. versus a Paladin watch out for Equality, versus a Warrior watch out for Brawl, etc)
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Good match ups: Most decks
Match up notes:
Hand lock - Notes: You have some chance. You have some plays with this deck. You can BGH one giant, TBK another (if/when taunted), Ancient of War + Wrath or Swipe 2 others. So, it is possible to overwhelm them, but you have to really plan your game out.
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Face Hunter - Only keep wild growth if you have a follow up play (Sen'jin or Druid of the Flame). Innervate is preferred along with a taunt. Keep Kezan if you get it in your opening hand. Keep a wrath or swipe, only if you also have an early minion play (Zombie Chow, Innvervate/WG + minion). You will most likely need Ancient of Lore to heal.
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Priest Match Up Notes:
General - Always keep Wrath, for Northshire Cleric.
Lightbomb Priest - Outvalue them. They will run out of removal, be patient. You can TBK a Deathlord, that is fine. Light bomb is not that good versus this deck, because all of the minions have less attack than health.
Control Priest - This is a tougher match up, but not impossible. They get to Thought Steal some pretty good stuff, but hopefully that doesn't happen. A play you can try to setup is a turn 9/10+ Ancient of Lore, let the Priest Mind Control it (after he has used 2 Shadow Word Death's on other minions). Then you TBK it to regain the board. You must get value out of KT and he must not Mind Control KT.
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Rogue Match Up Notes:
Taunts, taunts and more taunts, ramping out taunts is best, but do not over ramp (eg 2 Innvervates + Coin turn one, because then the rogue will Sap turn 2). Wild Growth is better than Innervate (due to Sap). If you are having trouble with Rogue consider subbing out TBK or Kezan for Harrison or Ooze. Keep Wrath in this match up, because Rogues have 3 health minions (SI: Agent, Farseer, etc). Do not over commit the board, unless the Rogue has already used 2 Blade Flurrys. Try to save Ancient of War until after Sap has been used. Always get immediate KT value (killing a taunt being the best, but even killing just an Ancient of Lore is fine). Always keep the Rogue's board cleared (to avoid Oil combos).
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More details to come.
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Card Explanations:
Innervate - 2X - This card is one of the major reasons druid is OP. Getting to bring out a bigger minion 2 turns early can be game breaking.
Wild Growth - 2X - This card is the other major reason druid is OP. If you are facing a control or slower class, then you can almost mulligan your entire hand for this card, unless there is something else that is REALLY needed for your match up.
Wrath - 2X - This is a great card. Keep it in match ups that have problematic early minions with 3 or less health (e.g. Priest North shire Cleric, Aggro)
Druid of the Flame - 2X - Great anti-aggro card. Here's some feedback from the comments section: Last season of course I only used 2 shades in place of DotF.
This season with BRM, I started out with 1 shade and 1 flame. Eventually, I decided 2 flames is best. In general, shade is better in control match ups and flame is better in aggro match ups. But, that is not always the case, I was surprised at the number of times that the 5/2 Flame option was correct, for example, behind a taunt wall or if I know the opponent can't do 2 damage (e.g. no consecrates left).
Also, it feels terrible to top deck a Shade in the late game. But the flame isn't as bad. And think of all the times you have played a Shade only to have it sit there and die (Flame Cannon, Consecrate, etc) and never do anything.
Lastly, I kind of feel like shade is too slow at times, because you just leave it sitting there to grow, and do not use it. That's fine in control match ups, but in aggro/mid/tempo match ups, the Flame is most of the time better.
Swipe - 2X - Must have in all Druid decks. Good for helping to clear the board or a big minion. Also good for pushing for Lethal.
Keeper of the Grove - 2X - A must have in all Druid decks. The 2 damage can be great for aggro decks or clearly early minions (e.g. Knife Juggler). The silence effect is good for big threats (e.g. Sylvanas, Tyrion, etc) or it can also be used to get through a taunt for Lethal.
Druid of the Claw - 2X - A must have in all Druid decks, in my opinion. Usually with this deck you want to be a 4/6 taunt, but sometimes a 4/4 charge is the correct play (e.g. you already have taunts, or you know the minion will die next turn with 4 or 6 health (like a fireball), or you need lethal).
Ancient of Lore - 2X - A must have in all Druid decks. You prefer to use this to draw 2 cards, and you want to do that as soon as you can, as more cards give you more options. However, in aggro match ups, or if you are just losing, then using this minion to heal can be the correct play. It is also good to save this minion if you are playing against a deck that uses Alexstrazza (like Warrior or Freeze Mage), just wait for Alex, then use the heal after. Also, if you are in that match up (with Alex), you also usually want to use your hero power each turn for the +1 armor, anything you can do to keep your life above their combo total (e.g. Above 12 for Grom + Task Master, above 21 for Thalanos, Frost Bolt, Ice Lance X2, Fireball, above 14 for Savage Roar/Force of Nature, above 22 for double Roar + Force of Nature, etc).
Ancient of War - 2X - Also play this as a 5/10, you do not want to make a BGH target.
Cenarius - 1X - This can be a win condition, by giving your board +2/+2 or another set of taunts to protect your life total.
Zombie Chow - 1X - THE anti-aggro card. I believe 1X is correct and 2X is too much. If you do not draw this early, and are playing against mage, you can save this card for the Mirror Entity secret. Or, you can save it for if your opponent plays Sylvanas and you do not have a silence (hopefully Sylv will get the Chow).
Big Game Hunter - 1X - Pretty much a must have in today's meta. Nearly everyone runs Dr. Boom (aka Dr. GG) or some other 7 or more attack minion (e.g. Giants, Ragnaros, etc).
Kezan Mystic - 1X - A tech slot. If you are not facing secret takes, then you can take this out. However, I must say this card really improves the Face Hunter match up (stealing Explosive Traps screws them over). And this card is great against pretty much all mages. It is HILARIOUS when you are playing a Freeze Mage and you save this card to steal their Ice Block at the right time (either for lethal, or to prevent yourself from dying).
Sen'jin Shieldmasta - 2X - This is a taunt deck. Many people use shredder here, but that is not correct for this deck. Sen'jin can kill a shredder and live, also more taunts are invalueable for getting through the early stages of the game against aggro.
Sludge Belcher - 2X - Again, this is a taunt deck.
Emperor Thaurissan - 1X - With so many high cost cards, you can get some serious value out of the Emperor.
Sylvanas Windrunner - 1X - Sylvanas just breaks people's brains. It makes them play weird or sub-optimally. If they trade 2-3 minions into your Sylvanas just so you do not steal something, that is completely fine.
The Black Knight - 1X - Another tech card. Pretty much all decks run a taunt, except face hunter, but even then they might get a Misha. You will almost always be able to get value out of this card, but even playing it just as a 4/5 body can be correct at times (e.g. empty board).
Kel'Thuzad - 1X - The play maker. Your goal is to save this card until you can FOR SURE get value out of it, e.g. you kill 1-3 of your own minions and play it, or your know your opponent cannot easily kill KT. An awesome play you can make is Turn 10 (or maybe 8) doing KT + Innvervate + Sen'jin.
Hi all. I test almost all new good (that seem good) decks when I play.
I'm not a super good player, but I always play at ranks 3-5, as I dont have a lot of free time. I really like the new Warrior deck, Ramp Druid decks and so on.
This deck is a NIGHTMARE for climbing or for taking good ranks. Maybe it's good at legendary (which I highly doubt), but at NOT legendary it is just BAD.
If you wanna lose all matches except versus aggro - take it. If you don't - take RAMP Druid and have much more fun.
Yea, as he title of the guide suggest, I used this from Rank 5 to Legend at the end of the April 2015 season.
For this season, May 2015, I have used Face Hunter to go from Rank 15 to 6.
This is a good deck to keep for when the meta shifts. But, as with all decks, it can lose effectiveness when the meta changes.
I played this deck last night on EU. I went 10-3 and it felt really strong, and quite fun to play.
So strong vs Face Hunters, Zoo and Grim Patron.
However switched out 1x Zombie Chow and 1x Ancient of War with Mind Control Tech and Dr. Boom.
It should be strong against aggro, like 60% of the time, but hey, shit happens.
1.) Ysera is probably too slow for this deck, because even if you do ramp well you still need the taunts. It's true Ysera is great against Priest, but since they now have Shrink Master, and because they also save Mind Control, it can go wrong.
As for Paladin, having a good value swipe really helps. Harrison is definitely a good tech choice. Play around equality.
Warrior is about 50/50. Harrison certainly helps. Play around brawl.
2.) Cenarius can help to finish a game with the +2/+2 so don't forget about that. He is best played after they have used their AoE (Holy Nova, Consercrate, Brawl, etc). He is also great for taking out Loatheb or Sludge Belchers. You can consider subbing him, I have done it, but I always end up putting him back (Maybe because I have a Golden Cenarius >_< )
This season I was stuck in rank 20-17, Each season I peak at ranks 5-3. But with this deck I suddenly climbed to rank 11 in 2 hours, because I was facing so many rush decks. I only lost twice, 1 was against a brawl control warrior and 1 was freeze mage.
Overall it is a nice deck, but I have a question, since most of the time we have lots of fat minions stading on the board, cant we have some place for Savage Roar or even maybe Force of Nature
Thanks for the deck bro :)
I have tried the deck with one Savage Roar, but it was really lack luster.
If you want to try it, I would try both, but then you might as well just play combo druid, with things like Hungry Dragon/Piloted Shredder and Shades
Sometimes you can try to make a deck do too much, and that makes it less consistent. However, I encourage you to find what works for you. Net decking is a great way to learn things in Hearthstone, but if you want to be good, you have to know when to play a deck and when not to, and when to tech certain cards (e.g. Kezan) as opposed to others (e.g. MC Tech).
I have replaced The Black Knight with Harrison Jones due to the aggro ish meta with lots of Grim Warriors and Face Hunters being used right now, has been working good!
Don't know how wrong I am playing this deck.. but I'm sitting at 1/5 at the moment..
All these mages seem to poly/flamestrike and clear my board regardless of what I can play against it.
Either I'm getting extremely unlucky (actually it might be this because I've had 6 mana cards in my full mulligan every single game). I don't know where I'm going wrong, just getting heavily out-traded and generally have no board presence ever.
that sounds like some bad mulligan
I will say I played face hunter from rank 15 to 8 last night, played some more of this BRM Taunt Druid deck and it is still working, but yea if you get all 6 mana cards it will be very rough...
Just tried it again and 0 innervates or wild growths, sitting with six 6mana cards at turn 6.. Can't handle this deck anymore.
I've been playing about the same deck for awhile now. maybe try adding another zombie chow instead of kezan mystic or one of the tech cards that don't seem to be hitting.. Getting board presence is key. which for the opponent removing any threats of yours is your defeat. All you have to do is survive the onslaught of removals n such in the early game. Don't be afraid to your face to clear their board. the object is to get to the late game, if you make it to turn 6-7+, the game is very often in your favor.
Sometimes a deck just doesn't work for you. It's happened to me many times (e.g. I suck at Oil Rogue).
So far this season (May-2015), I have climbed from Rank 15 to 6 using mostly Face Hunter. At some point, I imagine I will switch back to this deck. Usually this deck does better mid/late season, as in the beginning of the season there is a lot of variety (mainly aggro though, which if you have a lot of high cost cards in your hand, you lose) and people climbing back from rank 16 to legend (so you face tougher opponents).
Is Doom a good Black Knight substitute?
All you have to do is realize the type of card you're trying to substitute. TBK is there as a tech card, If you don't have it, or it doesn't hit often, find one that works. It's all about what type of deck you are currently facing. There is no right answer.
That being said, Doom is a great card, but doesn't fit the mana slot in this situation, you would have way too many 7's, if you want Dr. GG, you would be better off throwing out a ancient of war. I would suggest another tech card, maybe Loatheb or a Harrison jones. Or as many others suggested in other comments that Sunwalker would be a great fit, because you don't have a 6 mana taunt (taunt deck) and it has divine shield for KT synergy.
replacement for 1x Ancient of War and Cenarius ?
Maybe 2 Sunwalkers
Or try Chromaggus (draw more taunts)
Hey! Thanks for the cool deck had some fun with it :P ! Zoo & :SMOrc: ME FACE :SMOrc: were both :BibleThump: >:D !
Hey thanks buddy!
Dr. GG is always a solid card, even if they do get BGH value. So, if you are going to run a BGH target, I say run two; Dr. GG and Rag. This way if they do BGH Dr. GG on 7, you follow up with Rag on 8. Rag helps clear the board and can push lethal.