[Legend #4] - Shudderwock Shaman Guide
- Last updated Jun 28, 2018 (Spiteful Nerf)
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 11 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Shudderwock Shaman
- Crafting Cost: 12580
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 6/25/2018 (Spiteful Nerf)
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[Legend #4] - Shudderwock Shaman Guide
"My jaws that bite, my claws that catch!"
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1. General Gameplan
Most of the game is spent trying to outlive the opponent's pressure while drawing cards and trying to find and play combo pieces (Lifedrinker, Saronite Chain Gang and Grumble, Worldshaker).
2. Mulligan Guide
- Prince Keleseth is obviously always a keep
- You want Volcano against Aggro and Warlock, Hex is also good against Warlock
- Lightning Storm and Mind Control Tech are good against Paladin or board flood decks in general
- Mana Tide Totem is super good against Control, Acolyte of Pain is fine too
- Grumble, Worldshaker and Shudderwock are good keeps against Control
3. Card Selection
A few people are playing Wild Pyromancer and Murmuring Elemental instead of Prince Keleseth. You can guarantee the combo with Murmuring Elemental and Wild Pyromancer is better against Paladin. But I still think that Prince Keleseth is much better, stats say the same. I'll show you later how likely it is to succeed the combo without Murmuring Elemental. You can also beat some decks on board, a 3/4 Saronite Chain Gang is pretty good.
A lot of people are playing Hemet, Jungle Hunter, I'm playing Sandbinder instead. I hate Hemet, Jungle Hunter, it's only good in the mirror and Recruit Hunter. You don't even want to play it against Control, it destroys Zola the Gorgon and you can never play it against Aggro.
The Black Knight is probably the most interesting card, https://twitter.com/Zyrios7 told me about it. I think it's super good in this meta. It's obviously great against Taunt Druid but it also shines against Warlock, they play Hooked Reaver, Sunfury Protector and The Lich King.
Earth Shock and Unstable Evolution are interesting cards too. You can cut Lightning Bolt or The Black Knight for it.
4. Combo
Shudderwock has always a chance to fail. You should maximize the odds of succeeding if you like winning. Some of the core elements of the Battlecry combo are Lifedrinker, Saronite Chain Gang, and Grumble, Worldshaker. With those aforementioned Battlecries, Shudderwock will make copies of itself, return to your hand and cost only 1 mana and deal 3 damage to the enemy hero. The order is random.
It's basic math. Let's say you've played 2 Saronite Chain Gang and 1 Grumble, Worldshaker. You only get infinite Shudderwock if a Saronite Chain Gang triggers first, so it's 2/3 to win the game. 2/3 doesn't sounds optimal. You can Grumble, Worldshaker a Saronite Chain Gang to make it 4/5. You can save a Saronite Chain Gang for Zola the Gorgon too. The chance of succes is 20/21 then.
But you can also save Zola the Gorgon for Grumble, Worldshaker. It's 59/60 if you've played 2 Saronite Chain Gang, so that's a lot better if you have the freedom.
5. Tips
You can play Shudderwock without all combo pieces. It's a Frost Nova without Lifedrinker. You can get infinite Shudderwock with Zola the Gorgon too. Sandbinder draws Grumble, Worldshaker.
You can combine Acolyte of Pain with Volcano.
Even Shaman
even - Volcano is really important.
Keep Sea Giant in mind. You only lose if you can't deal with an early Flametongue Totem or Corpsetaker. It's pretty straightforward, try to outvalue them. The Black Knight shines again against Corpsetaker and The Lich King.
Shudderwock Shaman
even - An unanswered Mana Tide Totem can win the game. You also keep Grumble, Worldshaker and Shudderwock.
Whoever plays Shudderwock with all combo pieces first wins. Save Acolyte of Pain for Volcano if you can to play around Hex. They can't play Shudderwock if they have a lot of cards in hand and some minions on board. You shouldn't Hero Power if you are close to Shudderwock for the same reason.
Quest Warrior
heavily favored - Mana Tide Totem, Acolyte of Pain, Grumble, Worldshaker, Shudderwock
You have a lot time because of Healing Rain and your Hero Power. Never play Hagatha the Witch.
Odd Warrior
heavily favored - Mana Tide Totem, Acolyte of Pain
It almost doesn't matter what you do. You only lose if Shudderwock fails, that's 1/60.
Best Shudderwock Shaman list I've played so far. I was afraid of leaving Hemet out but this seems much more solid. Sandbinder is crazy good as a tutor for elementals. Went 12-4 today and climbed a bit from dumpster legend.
Let a deck play for you, waw soooo much fun and so skilled!
I'm so tired of this meta deck :) . Hope will get nerfed soon ! ...hate when the rope ends and the opposite player still casts for like 3 minutes .
Easy way to climb ladder though - you don't have to worry about strategy, or whatever your opponent is doing. Just play anything, and eventually win at turn 10 - it's great!
Obviously, if you complain is because you nevet p’ayed it. Very fun and really not overpowered. Required a lot os strategy in a lot of matchup
Who's complaining? I'm using it and it's trivial to win - props to the guy who came up with it :) A lot of people just auto-concede and the only problem I have is with mirror matches. This requires zero strategy, which is why I like it :) If you DO lose with this deck, you're probably not very good :)))
Depend at what level you’re playing. Maybe in low ranks, people don’t know how to counter the deck, but rank1 therés a lot of challwnge. If you ‘re p’aying without any challenge in legend rank, you’re a genious and good for you ;)
Zola ftw !!!
I love this deck as you can auto-win vs almost anything, while watching TV and just playing anything on curve :))))
Hello guys!
In the end I decided to try out shudderwock shaman as well and I had a really nice game against a recruit hunter. I didn't need to play all of the combo pieces because I managed to do some face damage even though that's not the "right" way to win. Mind control tech did some awesome work for me and definitely helped me win the game. You can check out the video below and I hope you will enjoy it and have a nice day :)
What could be a replacement for black knight?
Maelstrom portal, lightning bolt
they are good, many times I could have won attacking face, but his jaws and claws kept my board frozen like a penguin's butt.
LOL
I am impressed by the quality of this deck, not only does it completely destroy aggro decks, you also have a very good chance against other control decks given you draw your cards in the right order! I absolutely love the addition of the black knight as well as zola, they make the deck so much more fun!
Here is a video showcasing the deck in all of its glory, I really hope you all enjoy!
garbage deck, no chance against taunt druid, quest warrior, warlock...
It's favored against Taunt Druid, heavily favored against Quest Warrior and slightly favored against Even Warlock ;)
What would you guys recommend for someone who has dust just to finish one of them: even warlock or this shudderwock? I have all the three shaman legendaries and would need to buy greymane and gul'dan.
Lightning Bolt maybe
Hey, can acolyte and saronite be a keep with coin vs aggro?