In control vs control matchup you usually want to beat your opponent with value. Yet since Warlock's class cards sucked for like last 3 years, you could not outvalue anyone. Now though... in fact, you still can't! The trick is that Tickatus allows you to destroy enemy's value, giving you an advantage in this wicked way (I'm not even kidding).
Is it unfun to play against? Yes, but blame Blizzard for not being able to make Control Warlock viable without such BS card. At this point nerfing Tickatus in any way means to kill Control Warlock as well.
You have poison... Though I agree, that they can get out of hand at times, especially when Murlocs are not available. T2 minion buffed to oblivion (like 100/120 or whatever) is just wrong...
Almost all additions to the Classic and Basic set since the HoF introduction were weak, if not unplayable cards.
Exactly! And this widened the power gap between the weak and strong classes even more. For example Brawl and Shield Slam are still one of the strongest removals in the game, even compared to cards from recent expansions, designed with 6 years of ongoing power creep in mind. In comparison, Warlock's or Priest's basic sets are downright pathetic and they have to rely entirely on expansions. I don't understand why Blizzard weakens some classes with unplayable cards in their basic sets, but leaves others alone. It makes no sense.
Yes, you can steal some wins with Zoo Lock, but regardless you'll have more bad than good matchups. Zoo isn't fresh or exciting to play anymore (it's pretty much the same deck archetype since beta), so why even bother? There are way better aggro options, cheaper, faster, more effective and easier to play, like DH, Hunter, Shaman or Rogue. If you are not Warlock's psycho fanboy (like me), you don't have any reason to play him nowadays.
Tickatus might be annoying at times, but it's nowhere near of making Warlock viable class. He unfortunately was largely missed by most of the major mechanics and innovations introduced to the HS in recent years (and what he got was terrible, since his Quest, Scheme and Galakrond were the weakest in the game), which makes him outdated and awfully weak. Other classes can cheat huge amounts of mana (like 15+ in single turn), generate tons of value (+40 cards in one match, also bypassing many cards and class design limits) and do crazy RNG swings from literally lose to win, while Warlock's best "trick" is to burn 5-10 opponent's random cards in very late game. Yay... He also has no weapons (aggro deck without weapon is laughable in 2020), no secrets, no reliable source of healing (control deck without healing currently cannot survive), no burn or burst and most of his legendary cards never see any play, even on meme level (because they suck or never get any support to work). He has to be remade from scratch, otherwise he'll remain dead class outside of any meta.
Evolve Shaman is yet another example of heavy mana cheating, which has always been an issue in HS. Unfortunately, Blizzard likes this style of gameplay because it attracts casuals, allowing them to win without much skill. It simply pays off financially so they won't stop pushing this kind of design.
Same here! Second fight is terrible due to probably the worst deck Blizzard ever made for single player mode. Zero offensive options and bunch of useless garbage minions. It's not even a challenge, just unfun waste of time.
Someone can explain to me why mage, a class can barely make a low tier 2 deck before needed to be nerfed to oblivion, but DH GODLY invencible, insanely OP can remain Tier S for weeks and not have the same treatment?
Not that long ago the only Warlock deck, playable in standard (Pain Zoo) was nerefd (Darkglare got hit) because of Wild reasons, which made him disappear from the meta completely until next expansion. So you know, "Blizzard's logic" I guess...
As others have already said, Blizzard prefers to suck a lot of money out of relatively few whales than a reasonable amount of money from a very many people. It pays off in the short term, but it will kill the game in the long run, which is happening right now.
So far I have been F2P, but after the recent changes to the economy system, playing that way won't be possible any longer, so this is my last expansion. 7,000 gold per expansion was barely enough for 1-2 reasonable decks, now there won't be even that.
DH is undoubtedly the biggest problem, but bear in mind that he is only part of the larger issue. Thing is, most control decks have received too few new tools compared to aggro and they simply can't keep up with power creep. DH crushes everyone, but so do Face Hunter and Aggro Rogue. In fact, only Control Warrior can stand up to them... to some extent.
This is not okay. Blizzard is once again allowing some classes to disappear from meta entirely. If nothing changes in the near future, they might as well delete Priest, Warlock, Druid and Mage.
While Tickatus could be annoying at times, I'd say it's not as bad, as Resurrect Priest or Freeze Mage, who makes you feel hopeless in certain matchups. He's like a ticking bomb that can go off any moment, but it doesn't have to. Warlock needs to draw him, draw his corrupt activator (one from like 2-3 in entire deck) and find right time to play both. And even if he manage to do all of this, it doesn't guarantee him victory.
Act aggressively, don't give him time to draw his cards and constantly play new threats that he won't not be able to ignore. He can't heal consistently and doesn't have that many removals (especially hard ones), so he won't be able to withstand your pressure for long.
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In control vs control matchup you usually want to beat your opponent with value. Yet since Warlock's class cards sucked for like last 3 years, you could not outvalue anyone. Now though... in fact, you still can't! The trick is that Tickatus allows you to destroy enemy's value, giving you an advantage in this wicked way (I'm not even kidding).
Is it unfun to play against? Yes, but blame Blizzard for not being able to make Control Warlock viable without such BS card. At this point nerfing Tickatus in any way means to kill Control Warlock as well.
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Their "big changes" are pretty much always for the worse lately, so I expect the worst at this point...
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Edwin will be removed from standard at some point in 2021, but since HoF is no more (probably to cut all benefits of it), he won't be placed there.
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You have poison... Though I agree, that they can get out of hand at times, especially when Murlocs are not available. T2 minion buffed to oblivion (like 100/120 or whatever) is just wrong...
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That's why I insta-concede if I cannot take any decent hero. I'm not going to pay for overpriced BS like tavern pass and rank means nothing anyway.
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Exactly! And this widened the power gap between the weak and strong classes even more. For example Brawl and Shield Slam are still one of the strongest removals in the game, even compared to cards from recent expansions, designed with 6 years of ongoing power creep in mind. In comparison, Warlock's or Priest's basic sets are downright pathetic and they have to rely entirely on expansions. I don't understand why Blizzard weakens some classes with unplayable cards in their basic sets, but leaves others alone. It makes no sense.
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@Goodlake
Yes, you can steal some wins with Zoo Lock, but regardless you'll have more bad than good matchups. Zoo isn't fresh or exciting to play anymore (it's pretty much the same deck archetype since beta), so why even bother? There are way better aggro options, cheaper, faster, more effective and easier to play, like DH, Hunter, Shaman or Rogue. If you are not Warlock's psycho fanboy (like me), you don't have any reason to play him nowadays.
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Tickatus might be annoying at times, but it's nowhere near of making Warlock viable class. He unfortunately was largely missed by most of the major mechanics and innovations introduced to the HS in recent years (and what he got was terrible, since his Quest, Scheme and Galakrond were the weakest in the game), which makes him outdated and awfully weak. Other classes can cheat huge amounts of mana (like 15+ in single turn), generate tons of value (+40 cards in one match, also bypassing many cards and class design limits) and do crazy RNG swings from literally lose to win, while Warlock's best "trick" is to burn 5-10 opponent's random cards in very late game. Yay... He also has no weapons (aggro deck without weapon is laughable in 2020), no secrets, no reliable source of healing (control deck without healing currently cannot survive), no burn or burst and most of his legendary cards never see any play, even on meme level (because they suck or never get any support to work). He has to be remade from scratch, otherwise he'll remain dead class outside of any meta.
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Highlander Rogue bouncing / cloning his Zephrys 6 times also wasn't very nice matchup, but I dealt with it (and I cried only a little bit doing so)!
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Evolve Shaman is yet another example of heavy mana cheating, which has always been an issue in HS. Unfortunately, Blizzard likes this style of gameplay because it attracts casuals, allowing them to win without much skill. It simply pays off financially so they won't stop pushing this kind of design.
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Same here! Second fight is terrible due to probably the worst deck Blizzard ever made for single player mode. Zero offensive options and bunch of useless garbage minions. It's not even a challenge, just unfun waste of time.
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Not that long ago the only Warlock deck, playable in standard (Pain Zoo) was nerefd (Darkglare got hit) because of Wild reasons, which made him disappear from the meta completely until next expansion. So you know, "Blizzard's logic" I guess...
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As others have already said, Blizzard prefers to suck a lot of money out of relatively few whales than a reasonable amount of money from a very many people. It pays off in the short term, but it will kill the game in the long run, which is happening right now.
So far I have been F2P, but after the recent changes to the economy system, playing that way won't be possible any longer, so this is my last expansion. 7,000 gold per expansion was barely enough for 1-2 reasonable decks, now there won't be even that.
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DH is undoubtedly the biggest problem, but bear in mind that he is only part of the larger issue. Thing is, most control decks have received too few new tools compared to aggro and they simply can't keep up with power creep. DH crushes everyone, but so do Face Hunter and Aggro Rogue. In fact, only Control Warrior can stand up to them... to some extent.
This is not okay. Blizzard is once again allowing some classes to disappear from meta entirely. If nothing changes in the near future, they might as well delete Priest, Warlock, Druid and Mage.
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While Tickatus could be annoying at times, I'd say it's not as bad, as Resurrect Priest or Freeze Mage, who makes you feel hopeless in certain matchups. He's like a ticking bomb that can go off any moment, but it doesn't have to. Warlock needs to draw him, draw his corrupt activator (one from like 2-3 in entire deck) and find right time to play both. And even if he manage to do all of this, it doesn't guarantee him victory.
Act aggressively, don't give him time to draw his cards and constantly play new threats that he won't not be able to ignore. He can't heal consistently and doesn't have that many removals (especially hard ones), so he won't be able to withstand your pressure for long.