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    posted a message on What can Blizzard really do about DH to tone it down a bit?

    DH is undoubtedly the biggest problem, but bear in mind that he is only part of the larger issue. Thing is, most control decks have received too few new tools compared to aggro and they simply can't keep up with power creep. DH crushes everyone, but so do Face Hunter and Aggro Rogue. In fact, only Control Warrior can stand up to them... to some extent.

    This is not okay. Blizzard is once again allowing some classes to disappear from meta entirely. If nothing changes in the near future, they might as well delete Priest, Warlock, Druid and Mage.

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    posted a message on how to play control decks - the cure for demon hunter
    Quote from ShadowAldrius >>
    Quote from sahtradoog >>

    HEALING you need healing a lot of healing, the demon hunter burst potential is huge and you should never be below 16 hp versus one for that very reason, taunts don't make you safe

     Ye, try to apply this to Control Warlock...

    Control Warlock has a lot of other draw tools now. They don't have to half-kill themselves with life tap. And has plenty of healing with soul fragments, nether breath, broodmother (two of which can be recycled with plot twist).

    It looks good only on paper, in reality it's highly inconsistent and simply doesn't work. That's why Warlock was the worst class in scholomance meta (despite the fact that all the cards you pointed out were available for several months) and why we haven't seen any viable Control Warlock deck in about 2 years (pretty much since Gul'dan rotated out).

    Aggro is now way too effective so damage can't be just stopped like in the old days (with taunts, removals or whatever). The only way to survive their aggression is through an effective and reliable source of healing. If certain class lacks it, it won't be able to form successful control deck. And since Warlock will probably never get one (because reasons...), we won't see such deck from him anymore.

    And no, Control Warlock has very few tools to draw (or generate) cards aside from hero power.

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    posted a message on how to play control decks - the cure for demon hunter
    Quote from RendInFriend >>
    Quote from sahtradoog >>

    HEALING you need healing a lot of healing, the demon hunter burst potential is huge and you should never be below 16 hp versus one for that very reason, taunts don't make you safe

     Ye, try to apply this to Control Warlock...

     Oddly enough Mo’arg artificier and nether breath healing for 8 damage with lifesteal that can go face is way better healing than anything priest has. The real reason demon hunter and also face hunter are flourishing, is that there is a lack of good control cards for priest and warrior. They both have some new cool tricks like the thief cards from scholomance and the rush/menagerie synergy from dark moon, but both classes are lacking pieces for effective control, specifically mass removal and healing. Control Shaman could even be prominent again, if there was better healing than witches brew.

    You need Mo'arg Artificer and Nether Breath and the dragon in your hand and minion target... This is 4 mana 3 card setup and you can pull it only twice per game. It's way too inconsistent and inefficient when you need this before turn 5 (when most of the games against Face Hunter ends).

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    posted a message on how to play control decks - the cure for demon hunter
    Quote from sahtradoog >>

    HEALING you need healing a lot of healing, the demon hunter burst potential is huge and you should never be below 16 hp versus one for that very reason, taunts don't make you safe

     Ye, try to apply this to Control Warlock...

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    posted a message on please tell me Tickatus is a bad and late april fools joke

    Don't worry, any kind of Control Warlock will be soon washed out by aggro decks and you won't see him again for next couple months. Give this deck a week or so and it will simply die off.

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    posted a message on Too much burn = Warlock is unplayable
    Quote from OoZuNoO >>

    Yes, It's OK against other control decks (yet only if Tickatus clicks), but loses miserably to any aggro deck. And since aggro deck are always the most popular decks in the meta, Control Warlock will be T3 at best, which is meme level.

     Dont bother, warlock needs a complete rework at this point. Lost its aggro niche to DH, lost its control niche to priest rework, the changes to other classes basic/classic sets made warlock redundant, and this will become even more apparent next year once rotation hits. People are still messing with greedy shit rn so tickatus looks good, but once aggro takes over the class will disappear again. 

    Indeed. He should get way better class cards, because his hero power is not that strong and meaningful anymore. Most classes can draw or generate cards pretty efficiently nowadays, so paying 2 mana and 2 HP for each, feels bad and outdated (also because health is now rather valuable resource due to ever growing power creep of aggro).

    Right now Warlock has no card generation (which sucks when you have to use standard 30 cards against 60-70 cards played by Rogue, Priest or Mage), no healing, no mana cheating, no value generation, no weapons, no burst, no burn... pretty much nothing. As you said, he is redundant class, worthless and hopeless. Why would you play him, when other classes can do everything better (I mean with at least 50% winrate which is impossible for Warlock right now...)?

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    posted a message on Too much burn = Warlock is unplayable

    This is probably already good moment to bump the thread, as the claims made here proved to be 100% true again. We have another expansion and yet Warlock's situation seems to be exactly the same as before. As an aggro (zoo) he is outdated and limited (no weapons, no burn / burst, no anti-control tools). As control he has no chance against aggresive decks because he lacks strong and reliable source of healing. He also can't compete to outvalue slow and greedy control-ish decks, because he lacks value generation or heavy mana cheating himself (though Tickatus can fix that a little bit if you're lucky to play him early enough and mill some of their key cards).

    Overall, I have the impression that Blizzard has no idea what to do with Warlock in the context of the current state of the game. For about 2 years now it's been clear that control cannot exist without healing anymore (because aggro has too much reach and anti-control tools), and yet they are constantly trying to push control archetype for Warlock, not giving him reliable healing source. Zoo is also out of place. DH showed what a modern aggro deck should look like and, in comparison, Warlock is simply outdated (pure board based aggro is laughable in 2020).

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    posted a message on Corrupted Demonlock!

    So far I find it rather weak against aggro.

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    posted a message on Blizzard lied about the new reward system
    Quote from 3nnu1 >>
     Told ya, blizz out to milk the whales and try to pick up a few spenders out of the f2p's while alienating the rest. This is what a game looks like when the devs are just trying to get as much cash out of it as they can before it dies. 

    Keep in mind though, that there are still people defending Blizzard and claiming that HS is cheap and anyone who thinks otherwise is whiner.

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    posted a message on Blizzard lied about the new reward system
    Quote from ShadowVetrin >>

    Dekkster made a video about this as well as Zeddy, Solem and Rarran. They had the same complaints about not getting enough XP and gold. Dekkster came up with solutions for this problem. Solem was saying that Blizzard is doing this to anger the players, then fix it to get the adulation of the base. Check out their videos.

     Old Guardian too:

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