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    posted a message on The Battlegrounds Salt Thread
    Quote from Rofellos >>

    Well, i've done it, I broke Battlegrounds. Or at least, I am getting punished for something. I've managed to drop 900 MMR over the last 2 days, most of which just today. I've gotten one 3rd and one 4th place today. All other games (8/9 or so) were losses.

    The reason is always one of the following;
    1) Simple bad luck in the shop, making you lose health every turn never able to catch up,
    2) Getting hit for 25+ damage on turn 6 by someone that high-rolled the absolute f***ing shit out of the game,
    3) Getting knocked out for (nearly) exact lethal, JUST as you have a build together.

    Man, this is not fun. I've dropped from 8900 to 8000 MMR and its getting worse by the minute. I have to stop playing for a couple of days, before I physically break stuff around here.

     It's not true.

    Beating Battlegrounds is simple.  It is about *NOT* getting triggered.

    Just say "Haha, nice Bob F you!"

    I've had 5 digit MMR for I think a month.  Bob gives me trash out 2 out of 3 games.  I just finished 2nd in game where somehow mysteriously I got no triples like normal, which is not really a big deal because if I do get triples I whiff hard into trash rolls.

    This meta is easier than ever by a long shot.

    1) There are so many busted heroes now.  The age of 80% trash heroes sailed long ago, thank God!

    2) There are so many options for board building now.  The age of Bob kill you by offering you the death roll opener involving 1/1 Wrath Weavers and a couple of Mecharoos is gone!

    Now, with those big advancements towards a level playing field -- if you are doing poorly look in the mirror and there is the guy or gal to blame.

    Individual Battlegrounds games can be frustrating, but collectively they are easier than ever.  It's very hard to have 3 or 5 bad games in a row, for instance.

    With all of these adjustments that make the game far more fair and balanced, perhaps you need to master YOURSELF.

    If you are easily triggered, Battlegrounds certainly is not for you.

    Pro tip: Getting triggered is also known as "throwing the game."  If you like to throw games that's on you.  I've had numerous games that sucked the whole way where I finished 3rd or 5th, I've also had games with out of this world luck where I finished 7th.

    Ask yourself what misplays you made each game.  You can't control in-game elements, but you can control your decisions.

     

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    posted a message on Patch 18.6.1

    Reno sucks.  I won't pick a "normy hero" in the era of Minion Buff Heroes.

    Mr. Bigglesworth, AFK, Tess, Illidan, Reno --- NO.

    Give me supposedly Tier 3 Rakanishu.

    The big fight isn't against other players, it is against Bob.  Give me a hero that can buff the garbage minions that Bob tries to crater your game with and I'll show you Top 4 finishes.

     

     

     

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    posted a message on The current state of Battlegrounds is?
    Quote from Allthebees >>

    I don't like the direction battelgrounds is going.

    The buffs to heroes in the new balance patch shows they want to put more focus on your hero selection and it sucks. I enjoyed battlegrounds because everyone was on an equal footing to begin with - but early game powerhouses like millhouse suck a lot early game fun away when you have guaranteed losses.

    The large variance in damage taken from a loss is anti-fun, they need to raise the health pool drastically or change how damage is calculated.

    Once you're below 15 hp you are unable to take the risks to get first place, as you have no resource to gamble with.

    The fact they have returned lightfang to it's original form is really worrying - the game mode is moving in the same power-creep direction :/

    Live games were a mistake lol

     I prefer strong heroes.  The opposite is dog schitt meta that used to be called "Rafaam is the only good hero".

    Nice to have 20 strong heroes and 20 fair heroes and 10 bad ones.

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    posted a message on The current state of Battlegrounds is?
    Quote from CasualPlayah >>

    Who cares about battlegrounds ?

     You have my permission to go back to playing your Odd Paladin and Reno Priest decks in Wild.

    Or perhaps in Standard you might like to play Silas Darkmoon OTK Warrior.

    Please keep in mind these repetitive braindead decks are the best that regular Hearthstone has to offer at this time.

    Don`t let the door hit you in Uranus (the planet, obv).

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    posted a message on The current state of Battlegrounds is?
    Quote from r0s0n3r0 >>

    I have played extensively last couple weeks and the game is a pure roller coaster - no matter 5 or 10k, if you fail to get fast triple during 8-9g turns you will barely survive the damage spikes from the ppl that get it. 

     

    Too bad Lord Barov, Mukla, Deathwing, Sindragosa, George The Fallen, Tess, Flurgal, Clockwerk aren`t available in this meta.

    Right?

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    posted a message on New Hero: Zephrys, the Great

    Play as Zephry's, finished second to a Nostrilsdormu with triple Kalegos.  My 2nd place board was B.S. unfair and it was REALLY EASY, only that Nostrilsdormu with a triple Kalegos was going to beat me.

    Hero power is OP.  I would pay 6 mana for that hero power, since Bob has me on the "don't give this player triples lists".

    I think hero power is OP only because Battlegrounds has so many shit tavern rolls.  In the land of shit Tavern Rolls, the guy who turned a turd into gold is King!

    Seriously, are we noticing a problem here?  The best heroes say fruck you to Bob's Tavern.  Jandice says "F you bob, I'll just replay a minion ... you can keep your turds".  Zephyr's says "Haha, Bob!  Jokes on you!"

    In the land of the shit tavern rolls, the guy

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    posted a message on New Hero: Zephrys, the Great

    Hmmm... he seems good.  I have only faced him, haven't played him yet.

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    posted a message on The current state of Battlegrounds is?

    Hey little man, I have 11300 MMR.

    I am a far better player than you, perhaps instead of being salty about how you perform poorly in this game mode, you might improve yourself by listening to superior player's advice.

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    posted a message on The current state of Battlegrounds is?

    My MMR has skyrocketed from 8000 --> 11300 in the last week.

    What I have been doing is NOT playing elementals --- specifically Dragons or Divine Shield + poisonous.

    I look for either Razorgore + Brann or Kalegos + anything and hope to run into a Nadina later.  Alternatively I collect Selfless Heroes and try to get some Murlocs with some health + Riverdare.

    I will abuse a Djinn, but I don't want the Djinn for the elementals --- I hope for a Battlecry Elemental for Kalegos or a Sellemental so I can have +2 gold for buying Battlecry minions.

    Ragnaros and Garr?  Trash  --- I just sell those for the +1 gold.

    I don't like the Djinn but find this is the easiest and most skill oriented meta Battlegrounds has ever had.

    One other tip:  In this meta --- DO NOT REFRESH trying to triple up unless it is that or die.  Just Tier up.  Do Tavern Refreshes on Tier 4 is foolish, just go to 5 and your Tier 5 minion might be right there.

    Djinn is annoying and I hope he goes -- but what is incredible about Battlegrounds right now is the number of viable heroes.

    You can't get a top tier hero every time, but some of the crappier heroes like Mukla with the slight buff he got -- can be strategically abused.

     

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    posted a message on BG Tribe Tier list OCT 2020

     

    Quote from DjGrapejuice900 >>

    Remember when there was a tavern two amalgam...... could you even imagine that today

     Remember when Tirion was in the game and almost guaranteed Top 2.  They should bring him because he'd be terrible now.

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    posted a message on Battlegrounds feel more like a slot machine than a fun mode atm

    If Battlegrounds is all RNG why do the ones that complain always suck at Battlegrounds?

    It's all RNG right?

    Where are the "OMG Battlegrounds is too EZ it's all RNG, way too easy!" people?

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    posted a message on Battlegrounds feel more like a slot machine than a fun mode atm

    Battlegrounds is making the best of the alternatives you have available.  It's brillant.

    RNG evens out.

    I made legend a couple of times and was Rank 5 every month for over a year.

    I tried Battlegrounds with no intention of doing anything except seeing what it was.  After experiencing the strategic decisions, I lost interest in standard very quickly and only play if someone chats me up for a 80 gold quest out of being a bud (I don't need the gold).

    Battlegrounds doesn't appeal to everyone, but since HSReplay tracks 3 million games a week and games have 8 players = 24 million tracked player games compared to 10 million for standard HS x 2 players = 22 million player games tracked -- it does have people who like it and it is a rather large in number.

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    posted a message on Being able to get Lil Rag,Amalgadon,Garr from Djinn while on tavern 4 or 5 is ridiculous.

    Also Bartendotron was retired.

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    posted a message on Being able to get Lil Rag,Amalgadon,Garr from Djinn while on tavern 4 or 5 is ridiculous.

    Tess isn't Tier S in my experience unless there is a strategy I don't know of.

    She needs to play synergy opponents/good opponents usually.  A good opponent comes with the risk of being killed by that player.

    George The Fallen is at least a B.  With the best stuff, he is simply unstoppable --- all poisonous divine shield minions.  With the worst stuff, you can go defensive and not tier up much and focus on giving everything divine shields which often doesn't get you "wins" but minimizes damage so you are in the late game just because you lived.

     

     

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    posted a message on Your current Battlegrounds Rating?

    Crossed 10000 K for first time ever @ 10048.  Played as Lord Barov, won possibly all of the early game bets helped a bit by the fact most of the bets seemed to involve a recent opponent so I knew if they were strong or weak.

    Finished 2nd behind a Rafaam with 2 Genie and a board that would require a cameo appearance from a Gentle Megasaur and a Holy Mackerel to beat.

    I'm not happy with the Genie meta we are in, but setting that aside the rest of the experience favors "big brained play" right now.

    2-3 games ago I used George The Fallen who got horrific tavern rolls and I still forced out a 3rd place by putting divine shields on my subpar minions and not leveling much.  It was a board of trash and not a single poisonous and never tripled, but when every trash minion has divine shield, you don't take much damage until the late game.  And my trash did make it to the late game.

     

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