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 Creative : 4/10 Keeper of Uldaman + Eadric + Taunt  *sigh* 

Strong/viable : 8/10

Reason Eadric never see play bacause he too expensive but only neutralize  board not remove. You can set all  enemy at 1 atk but it still 7 dmg every turn and 1/10 is not easy to deal but this card have taunt and 7 hp so in best situation it can remove 3 minions  

For me this card is just flexible version of Icehowl because it can go face but main target still enemy minions

Well, time will tell how good of non-aggro hunter but atm this card seems not good enough to play in any hunter deck

Nope

Well,i guess this is reason why we have this thread 

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/2307-hearthstone-price-changes-coming-to-europe-for-pc

I'm not a european and never buy pack with real money (except welcome bundle) but i can understand why people angry ,announce 3 expansion in 1 year then increase pack price  (worst decision i ever seen) .Are you joking ,Blizzard ?

aggressive power of pirate warrior come from their olds cards (weapon + upgrade + frothing),just because it become popular in gadgetzan meta does not mean patches + stb is problem
i don't know what did you expect but main target of this nerf is (aggro) shaman because this class is not designed to play pirate package ,but because pirates is too good so they infest to shaman and combine with jade card we have a broken aggro deck .After nerf,i dont hear "who goes tharr.." from shaman anymore so (at least) for me Blizzard have acomplished their goal

i agree with you

i dont get why people always talk like they want every card in every set (unless you are collector),why not craft what you want and play (grind) to get more gold and dust then craft another legendary when you get bored,why you should care about obtain boggie monster or noggenfogger ?

my prediction : mage and priest will replace hunter and paladin at bottom when rotation come

Because what hunter can do 8 other class can do a lot better
-Aggro : Patches and his bitches say hello
-midrange : i dont see any reason to play midrange hunter when dragon priest (tempo) have better sync and shaman still on top tier
-Control /reno : nevermind
-Combo (Maly hunter) :like control,hunter really hard to play slow deck because he lack of draw card mechanic
-Buff : well,paladin with all hand buff mechanic but still rarely see play now so hunter is  just a bad version of this archetype

maybe the only thing rexxar can be proud of in curent meta is his hero power,garrosh and thrall really love it

only shaman at tier 1 : boring

now more deck/class can use in high rank battle : still boring

this is how HS community works Kappa

i'm not really a big fan of hand buff mechanic because they too slow but i also can't imagine grimy goons is almost forgotten like now .kabal and lotus seems total dominate on ladder
Rip Hunter,Paladin (2013-2016) :(

Sad but true
They require too much condition to win : draw card ,buff them then you must protect it to get value ,it not like jade whether golem live or die you can always have big body on board
Even if you use card buff in old deck it still not something special like 6/6 or 10/10 tirion is still same thing because people always save their removal for him

This is the first expansion I've heard people whine about 'forced archetype' so much, is it because it's on the bingo card and everyone suddenly knows what it means? 

Blizzard literally always pushes certain types of decks, it is a 100% necessary aspect of the game because it gives classes identity. Ramp Druid is a consistently pushed archetype but nobody bitches about that because it's an integral part of Druid and has been for a long time. Just because DiscoLock is a relatively new thing (though Locks have ALWAYS had discard cards) doesn't somehow make it any more forced than the twenty billion 'forced archetype' cards we've had before.

Not dying, but surely pass its peak and on the way down now. The fact that a lot of players like me find it much more enjoyable to whine, salt, insult and argue in this forum, than playing the game itself, tell alot about the state of this game at the moment. 

Turns out removing ONE hp for ONE minion in the deck doesn't mke any difference since their strengh is purely their raw dmg output and their weapons...

The thing is while hearthstone statswise is in a balanced state (Most decks rech like 60% winrate). Its balance for all the wrong reasons. Because its not balance because all the cards are balanced or the players play equaly good. Its balance because the game is way to random.

And if you flip a coin youll tend towards a 50% winrate. Thats fair, but if you want the game to be a game were skill and decisions matter thats the wrong way to design it.

However Hearthstone has been designed as a game for people with little time, casuals. For those players a coinflip is the best way to design a game were theyll get araound 50% winrate no matter how bad they play.

The problem Design team was facing after beta was that the game were way more succesfull then they had imagined. And suddenly another group of players approached. Pseudo pro players which were to bad for the main competetive titles, suddenly raising a community with streams and tournaments in a game that was designed to be a 50% coinflip for casual players.

Now Team 5 has the big problem that its actually impossible to build a brige between those 2 player groups. On the one side you have people like lifecoach on the other side the 40 year old people that want to relax with 1-3 games after work.

Team 5 obviously decided to stick to the later and its basically the fault of players like lifecoach to stick to this game with the ambition to play this as a competetive title which is simply impossible.

I believe its for the better to all people here when try hards like lifecoach leave this game. There better of in a game like gwent were skill and decisions matter and the casuals have to face lesser try hards and have more fun. That way everybody wins.

And I realy advice anyone who thinks that he has some skill and ability, to invest his time in other games and leave hearthstone itll remain what it is, a 50% dicethrow...a flashy one thought.

Maybe this game will change someday but clearly not under this dev team which obviously made a decision against competetive hearthstone. 

Just do what a lot of people do, just craft the 1 top tier cancer deck and play it the entire 3 months.

I see some people saying because of the 3 expansions a year hearthstone will get expensive and it will be impossible for F2P players to get cards, but that not true, i'm only going to focus on legendaries for now since they are the most expensive to make. Legendaries of past sets weren't all required, you can replace legendaries with other cards and it wouldn't really effect your deck too much. Heres the legendaries of past sets that were impossible or just hard to replace

GvG: Mal'Ganis, Dr. Boom

TGT: Aviana, Confessor Paletress, Varian Wrynn, Justicar Trueheart,

WoTOG: Xaril, Poisoned Mind, Fandral Staghelm, N'Zoth, the Corruptor, Twin Emperor Vek'lor

MSoG: Raza the Chained, Finja, the Flying Star

If Blizzard made all legendaries impossible or hard to replace i can see peoples concerns but, only 2-4 legendaries per set so far were only not replacable. If it stays a this rate then hearthstone is fine, you don't need all of the cards, yeah it is fun to try and get a full collection but not all cards are needed for decks since you can replace them pretty easily with other cards that can do the job similarly

Because combo has no counterplay.

You stall the game and draw cards and then just win.

Combo decks are not a matter of skill as they should be, it's a matter of luck. You either get the right sequence by turn 10 or you don't.

Combo decks are meant to be the high skill ceiling decks and hearthstone just doesn't have a good record of making that true.

If you can have 25 draw + removal tools on your deck and 5 cards that just auto win, you're not playing well, you're just not letting your opponent play at all. Also Thaurissan make things even worse because you can make even more sick combos with less requirement for card and mana management.

Stuff like Anyfin Can Happen is how combo should be made in this game. A combo over the course of the game. Not a single "Dump your hand and win". Throughout the whole game vs Anyfin Pally both players have to make crucial choices on where to spend their mana, how and when to drop their minions and what removal to use and when. You can polymorph and Entomb a Warleader but then you don't have it for Tirion. Which is more likely to win the game for you? Can you be sure they even have Tirion? Are you gonna have another removal and answer to it by then?

Should Pally get another Anyfin from Horse/knight card? Or get more draw? Or just focus on healing? Have you counted how many murlocs you played this game? If you use anyfin now much damage can you make? What are the chances of the second anyfin winning the match for you?

It's just so much more choice and interesting play and counter-play that make the combo deck never feel unfair. You can always lose a match to it and think "Man, if I had use polymorth here." or "If had saved reno for one more turn." or "Man, that was just bad luck on my part" instead of: "OMFG THIS IS ANNOYING, I had 26 damage on board, cleared Ice Block but my minions could do nothing because they got frozen for 4 turns and the mage just burned down my face"

Hearthstone has a big issue where the cards are individually too powerful and carry very little to later turns after they are used. This makes combo just an unfair archetype. They try to fix it by bringing either broken or conditional tools for you to counter that in tech cards like Loatheb and Dirty Rat. But since very little people play combo they are either too broken or very much of a gambit to make them usable in many decks instead of like other hundred bad tech cards in the game.

I find it ludicrous that people think that Hunter is the devoted "Face" class.  One of the problems the Hunter has with making a non midrange/aggressive deck is their Hero Power and their lack of card draw and good board clears, their best one in my opinion being Explosive Trap or Powershot.  If control hunter was a good/viable deck fuck yeah I'd be playing it, I love control decks.

The reason you see a lot of people playing an aggressive Hunter deck is because it wins games, and it wins quickly.  Think about Midrange Shaman, Pre-Standard Face Hunter, and Pre-Standard Combo Druid.  These decks all have something in common,  they were good decks that had a consistent winrate.  What else did they have in common?  People bitched and complained about them because they would lose to them.

My favorite class is Warrior, do I play Pirate Warrior? No.

Meteorite12's favorite class is Hunter, does he play SMOrc Hunter? No.

Saying you hate people who play a certain class because of one archetype is like saying you hate all people of one race because someone of that race forgot to give you back $10.

"No, this is not in any way a zoo or N'zoth counter

I think you are wrong bro... N'Zoth Warrior is a bad matchup for Shaman... so now they have Hex and Devolve to completely nulify N'Zoth´s effect, or ttransforming minions before killing them or transformiing them after they get out with N'Zoth.

At least, N'Zoth will become a 9-mana minion like Ysera or Soggoth.

The current meta/op deck is not an excuse, if the meta changes, why would not this card become better? What if we see an OP Shaman control deck? 

The direct comparison for this card is Mass Dispel. True, you draw 1 card whith this card, but the new one will downgrade your minions 95% of the time.

If the full tempo meta ends, I don´t see reasons to don´t run a control decklist against other decks like Jade Golem Druid or Dragon Priest (Speculation yeh), cards like Hallazeal the Ascended, The Mistcaller, Flamewreathed Faceless, Elemental Destruction, Healing Wave or Earth Elemental are only few examples of the Shaman pool than can be used in a control decklist.

To sum up, I don´t think this card is good right NOW, but it can be so OP in the future, time will clear the fog about the utility of the card