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Am I the only one that always get completely useless shit from Mulch (well, there was one time I got something crazy, I think Antonidas, but never got to use it)?
My average is getting Wisp or Ancient Watcher. Meanwhile, the only time I played that card, I gave my opponent a Varian Wrynn.
Fucking Malfurion, why you so hateful?
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Ok this is me going completely off my own opinion...
Entomb -
"Wait what? Are you nuts?" Is what you might be saying, but get this... After the purify upset with Priest's current ranking being already at the bottom, I'm predicting Blizz will create more cards that capitalize on the Control and Midrange aspect of Priest, as the aggresive Priest cards are a little too good right now, and is at the cusp of getting out of control if Blizz doesn't handle it right. This card may give control priest too much control in the future (by that I mean over a year from now) so the mana cost may have to be upped depending on how strong Priest gets.
That being said, an alternative may be Mind Blast or Circle of Healing, as these cards are also hindering Priest from getting better healing and damage cards... Some things need to be broken so they can be mended once again.
I really like this card, but it may pose a problem in the future. Midrange Shaman has hit the nerf stick, so what do you guys believe Blizz will try to promote next? My guess is more totem synergy. There are plenty of cards for that already yes, but we haven't gotten a new totem since TGT, and I dont think any more will come for now with the Thing's mana cost. I believe it may be upped by one in the future.
This card has recently been to go to card for every Midrange deck because of how useful it is. Don't get me wrong, with the huge nerf to Aggro decks, this card is extremely important to keep, as this normally is what gives Hunters the push they need later on in the game. The problem is that its too good. Like better than any other similar expansion cards good, and its 6 attack is a little too strong for the deathrattle effect. My theory is that Blizzard will drop the attack to 5, keeping the soul of the card, but keeping it from dealing more damage than it should if it cannot be dealt with immediately.
Now, no one plays this card because it is completely useless within the class it's in, but similarly to pre-nerf Master of Disguise, it seems to be slightly restricting some hunter cards. The majority of the class cards at the moment rely on strong deathrattles, while any buffing cards are restricted to Timber Wolf and Houndmaster. While both are very good and see play all the time, I feel like Blizzard hasn't been able to make any more cheap buff cards for the class because it may create an opening for the legend. That is one minion you do NOT want to keep on the board longer than you need to, so if for any reason Blizz can give it any more stats, it may pose a problem in the future... This is all a guess of course, but Blizz can only go so far with Deathrattle and Beasts before a new issue can pop up with other combos.
Here's where things get tense, Blizz already considered this on the nerf list, and its not hard to see why. I believe when this card was first made, it was supposed to give Mage an opening to deal some final damage to a similarly weak opponent at the end of the game since sometimes it hard to focus your spells on your opponent when they're bearing down on you with minions. Now, it seems to be an issue because Mage can practically revive themselves with cards like Reno Jackson and then further shut down their board, leaving them with no options. As time goes on this could potentially be a bigger problem then it already is, since the class will no doubt be getting more damage spells, or cards that provide them. I honestly have no idea how a nerf on this card would look without destroying it entirely, so i'd rather just hope that Blizz can find a loophole for it.
Avenge -
Many people complain about Secret Pally because how braindead the decks are and how its literally auto-pilot. They turn their attention to Mysterious Challenger as the main issue for it, as it can single-handedly drop multiple spells on the field, with an almost vanilla body. While this is kind of unfair in many aspects, the fact that Pally secrets can only be 1 mana means one thing, they can only be an annoyance. Yeah they stall a game, but its the same set of secrets every time and it can be played around usually if you know how to approach it. Pop the defender first, kill it again, kill the now super challenger, make sure his board is clear, and try not to play anything with a large health pool. Yes yes, easier said than done but still, it can't change. The main issue I find when I fight a secret Pally is that 2 of its secrets can combo off each other just by playing them, Noble Sacrifice and Avenge. Sometimes you don't even want to attack because you don't have a card to deal with whatever minion gets the buff, and while Redemption can pose another problem, it isn't as bad as the amount of stats Avenge can give a minion. Right now Pally can abuse than all too easily at I believe Avenge is getting revealed much too easily. My suggestion is that it gets dropped to +2/+2, as it still is threatening but isn't as annoying to try to work around.
To keep it short, this card is worthless and I don't know why Blizzard even created it and dumped it in Rogue. I know they are trying to create a good Control Rogue sometime in the future, but this is honestly a really bad way of doing it. Why is it a 2/1? It's gonna destroy minions anyway so why make it weak to pings? Its very hard to keep this minion alive, which is why Patient Assassin is so much better, despite the crafting cost difference. I believe that this card's nerf should a buff. Up the mana cost and give it more stats, takes longer to play, but now at least playable.
Sorry for such a long post, but I believe these cards will at some point in the future be changed so Blizz can add some more flavors to this spice basket. This is entirely opinionated so I could totally be wrong on all of these.
EDIT: Made it more user friendly, if you only want to read a couple of these, you don't have to do a full search for it.
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Quote from sweetsugardaddy >>cabal totem, thing from below, ice block, battle rage,slam,power owerwhelming,archmage antonidas, shield slam, sylvannas, N'zoth,arcan giant,cloaked hutnress.
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Make your own decision for once instead of following a netdeck like a sheep?
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Next: A solid 2 drop for priest
I did a spell at first but realized you meant a minion so I went ahead and put both in.
Next: Small spells like Moonglade, above. (See also Mortal Coil and Power Word: Shield.)
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4 out of the last 8 legendaries I opened were Pagle.
Edit (13th Sep 2016): Just wanted to post a quick update, So far I've opened 3 legendaries since this comment was made, They were Boogie Monster, mandatory Pagle Darkfisher, and an Anub'arak.
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I saw that there was math with highest average statistic of minion per mana slot for the purpose of Master of Evolution and Evolve, but I wanted to get a bit more specific. What if you need a taunt to not lose next turn? What if you need a Charge minion, or extra Spell damage for lethal?
Listed here are the chances per mana slot from evolve effects for said effects, as well as the average damage output for Charge minions. As noted in the Prefix, this is only for Standard, and includes minions that are being added in the expansion One Night in Karazhan.
TAUNT
{57} 1 Drops
{4} 1 Drops with taunt – 7% chance of evolving into a 1 drop with taunt
{1} Goldshire Footman (1/2)
{1} Voidwalker (1/3)
{1} Tournament Attendee (2/1)
{1} Shieldbearer (0/4)
{74} 2 Drops
{4} 1 Drops with taunt – 5.4% chance of evolving into a 2 drop with taunt
{2} Sparring Partner (3/2)
{2} Pompous Thespian (3/2)
{2} Frostwolf Grunt (2/2)
{2} Twilight Geomancer (1/4)
{95} 3 drops
{6} 3 Drops with taunt – 6.3% chance of evolving into a 3 drop with taunt
{3} Ironfur Grizzly (3/3)
{3} Fierce Monkey (3/4)
{3} Silverback Patriarch (1/4)
{3} Squirming Tentacle (2/4)
{3} Tauren Warrior (2/3, Enrage: +3 Attack)
{3} Felguard (3/5)
{90} 4 drops
{8} 4 Drops with taunt – 8.8% chance of evolving into a 4 drop with taunt
{4} Dread Corsair (3/3)
{4} Evil Heckler (5/4)
{4} Mogu’shan Warden (1/7)
{4} Cyclopian Horror (3/3)
{4} Infested Tauren (2/3, Deathrattle: Summon a 2/2 Slime)
{4} Sen’Jin Shieldmasta (3/5)
{4} Bloodhoof Brave (2/6, Enrage: +3 Attack)
{4} Faceless Shambler (1/1)
{61} 5 drops
{6} 5 Drops with taunt – 9.8% chance of evolving into a 5 drop with taunt
{5} Booty Bay Bodyguard (5/4)
{5} Fen Creeper (3/6)
{5} Psych-o-Tron (3/4, Divine Shield)
{5} Abomination (4/4, Deathrattle: Deal 2 damage to ALL characters)
{5} Crazed Worshipper (3/6, Whenever this minion takes damage, give your C’Thun +1/+1)
{5} Earth Elemental (7/8)
{55} 6 drops
{5} 6 Drops with taunt – 10.9% chance of evolving into a 6 drop with taunt
{6} Dark Arakkoa (5/7)
{6} Lord of the Arena (6/5)
{6} Hogger (4/4, At the end of your turn, summon a 2/2 Gnoll with Taunt)
{6} Sunwalker (4/5, Divine Shield)
{6} Thing From Below
{28} 7 drops
{5} 7 Drops with taunt – 17.8% chance of evolving into a 7 drop with taunt
{7} Twin Emperor Vek’lor (4/6)
{7} The Curator (4/6)
{7} Chillmaw (6/6, Deathrattle: If you’re holding a Dragon, deal 3 damage to all minions)
{7} Obsidian Destroyer (7/7)
{7} Bog Creeper (6/8)
{16} 8 drops
{3} 8 Drops with taunt – 18.7% chance of evolving into an 8 drop with taunt
{8} Al’Akir the Windlord (3/5, Windfury, Charge, Divine Shield}
{8} Tirion Fordring (6/6, Divine Shield, Deathrattle: Equip a 5/3 Ashbringer)
{8} Ironbark Protector (8/8)
{19} 9 drops
{2} 9 drops with taunt – 10.5% chance of evolving into a 9 drop with taunt
{9} Volcanic Lumberer (7/8)
{9} Soggoth the Slitherer (5/9, Can’t be targeted by spells or Hero Powers)
Tl;dr
8 drop with taunt: 18.7%
7 drop with taunt: 17.8%
6 drop with taunt: 10.9%
9 drop with taunt: 10.5%
5 drop with taunt: 9.8%
4 drop with taunt: 8.8%
3 drop with taunt: 6.3%
1 drop with taunt: 7%
2 drop with taunt: 5.4%
SPELL DAMAGE
{57} 1 Drops
N / A
{74} 2 Drops
{4} 2 Drops with Spell Damage – 5.4% chance of evolving into a 2 drop with spell damage
{2} Kobold Geomancer (+1 Spell Damage)
{2} Cult Sorcerer (+1 Spell Damage, after you cast a spell, give C'Thun +1/+1)
{2} Bloodmage Thalnos (+1 Spell Damage, Deathrattle: Draw a card)
{95} 3 drops
{1} 3 Drops with Spell Damage – 1% chance of evolving into a 3 drop with spell damage
{3} Dalaran Mage (+1 Spell Damage)
{90} 4 drops
{6} Drops with Spell Damage – 6.6% chance of evolving into a 4 drop with spell damage
{4} Dalaran Aspirant (Inspire: Gain Spell Damage +1)
{4} Evolved Kobold (+2 Spell Damage)
{4} Frigid Snobold (+1 Spell Damage)
{4} Ogre Magi (+1 Spell Damage)
{4} Ancient Mage (+1 Spell Damage)
{4} Jungle Moonkin (Both players have Spell Damage +2)
{61} 5 drops
{1} 5 Drops with Spell Damage – 1.6% chance of evolving into a 5 drop with spell damage
{5} Azure Drake (+1 Spell Damage)
{55} 6 drops
{1} 6 Drops with Spell Damage – 1.8% chance of evolving into a 6 drop with spell damage
{6} Archmage (+1 Spell Damage)
{28} 7 drops
N / A
{16} 8 drops
N / A
{19} 9 drops
{1} 9 Drops with Spell Damage – 5.2% chance of evolving into a 7 drop with spell damage
{9} Malygos (+5 Spell Damage)
Tl;dr
4 drop with spell damage: 6.6%
2 drop with spell damage: 5.4%
9 drop with spell damage: 5.2%
6 drop with spell damage: 1.8%
5 drop with spell damage: 1.6%
3 drop with spell damage: 1%
1 drop with spell damage: 0%
7 drop with spell damage: 0%
8 drop with spell damage: 0%
CHARGE
{57} 1 Drops
{2] 1 Drops with Charge; without Southsea Deckhand, 1.7% chance of evolving into a 1 drop with charge
With Southsea Deckhand – 3.5%
Average damage output without Southsea Deckhand: 1
Average damage output with Southsea Deckhand: 1.5
{1} Stonetusk Boar (1/1)
{1!} Southsea Deckhand (2/1, has Charge when equipped with a weapon)
{74} 2 Drops
{1} 2 Drop with Charge – 2.7% chance of evolving into a 2 drop with charge
Average damage output: 2
{2} Bluegill Warrior (2/1)
{95} 3 drops
{2} 3 Drops with Charge – 2.1% chance of evolving into a 3 drop with charge
Average damage output: 2.5
{3} Wolfrider (3/1)
{3} Argent Horserider (2/1, Divine Shield)
{90} 4 drops
{2} 4 Drops with Charge – 2.2% chance of evolving into a 4 drop with charge
Average damage output: 3
{4} Kor'kron Elite (4/3)
{4} Stormwind Knight (2/5, Taunt)
{61} 5 drops
{3} 5 Drops with Charge – 4.9% chance of evolving into a 5 drop with charge
Average damage output: 4.3
{5} Tundra Rhino (2/5, All Beasts are granted Charge)
{5} Doomguard (5/7)
{5} LEEROOOOOOOOY JEEEEEENKINNNNNS (6/2)
{55} 6 drops
{2} 6 Drops with Charge – 3.6% chance of evolving into a 6 drop with charge
Average damage output: 5.5
{6} Reckless Rocketeer (5/2)
{6} Argent Commander (6/2, Divine Shield)
{28} 7 drops
{1} 7 Drop with Charge – 3.5% chance of evolving into a 7 drop with charge
Average damage output: 4
{7} Skycap'n Kragg (4/6)
{16} 8 drops
{2} 8 Drops with Charge – 12.5% chance of evolving into an 8 drop with charge
Average damage output: 5
{8} Al'Akir the Windlord (3/5, Windfury, Divine Shield, Taunt)
{8} Grommash Hellscream (4/9, Enrage: +6)
{19} 9 drops
{2] 9 Drops with Charge; without Icehowl, 5.2% chance of evolving into a 1 drop with charge
With Icehowl – 10.5%
Average damage output without Icehowl: 8
Average damage output with Icehowl: 9
{9!} Icehowl (10/10, Can only attack minions)
{9} King Krush (8/8)
Tl;dr
8 drops with charge: 12.5%
9 drops with charge (No Icehowl): 10.5%
9 drops with charge (With Icehowl): 5.2%
5 drops with charge: 4.9%
6 drops with charge: 3.6%
1 drops with charge (With Southsea Deckhand: 3.5%
7 drops with charge: 3.5%
2 drops with charge: 2.7%
4 drops with charge: 2.2%
3 drops with charge: 2.1%
1 drops with charge (No Southsea Deckhand): 1.7%
AVERAGE DAMAGE OUTPUT
9 drop average output (With Icehowl): 9
9 drop average output (No Icehowl): 8
6 drop average output: 5.5
8 drop average output: 5
5 drop average output: 4.3
7 drop average output: 4
4 drop average output: 3
3 drop average output: 2.5
2 drop average output: 2
1 drop average output (With Southsea Deckhand): 1.5
1 drop average output (No Southsea Deckhand): 1
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What kind of weeaboo are you that you made a hearthpwn account just so you could ask people what WoW character they'd like to bang
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And if you replace the 1 mana with a 0 and the and the two attack with a 1 and you replace the card text with empty space you have a wisp! That would be insane! A free creature! The value!
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It's boring AF?
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Problem with that card is that you just don't draw your neccesary (removal) cards.
Malchezaar's cards are like bonus cards in your deck, next to the core cards you really need. So unless you put lot's of drawing power in your deck (even with Coldlight Oracle if you must), I found it to be unplayable. Unfortunately.
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I often think of ancestral spirit as a Cairne, it practically is. I am looking at this deck and I think of a deck I made a while ago that contained Leeroy Jenkins and a bit more carddraw.
Often turn 10 I'd end up going Leeroy + ancestral + reincarnate for 18 burst damage at least. Was a very fun deck, might want to consider adding a tech like charge in for this effect :)