I'd like to gather other people in the community's input on this topic. Netdecking in casual mode: is it scummy, or is it perfectly fine?
I'm kind of on the moderate side on this one. I like to play casual when my daily quests don't exactly like up with me playing ranked (i.e. Win 5 matches as Warrior). It sometimes FeelsBadMan queueing into Cubelock or Spiteful priest when you're trying to complete Murlocalypse. On the other hand, I love knowing how some of my off-meta/meme decks stack up against the big boys. I even win some of those games and that can feel pretty rewarding.
I'd just like to see where everyone else's opinions lay.
That's fine. It honestly doesn't bother me. I just noticed one day I ran into Cubelock in like 4 matches straight and I kind of thought about how it could be a little tilting if you were grinding for wins. :P
When I am in casual, I am only doing quests, and If i can tell my opponent is doing the same, I try to let them play as much as they can too, I have actually made alot of new (HS) friends that way.
I think its fine cause personally if I wanna try a new deck I've never played (like I just played spiteful and barnes priest for the first time today to see what they're like cause I have the cards) and im not at a rank floor (was at sixteen) then ill test it in casual to get a feel for the deck.
Well, I had a quest to play 20 hunter spells, so I made a spell hunter deck and ended up winning 8 in a row, then I thought, I should have just gone in to ranked with this.
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There's a lot Blizzard can do to fix this. There's no incentive not to farm folks who are playing casually and there's nowhere for players to go for a purely "casual" constructed experience.
I don't mind it too much generally speaking. I mean yes, there are definitely times when you feel tilted about getting slamed by top tier decks, but at times it feels just natural because losing is rarely pleasant. I feel like some people haven't lost their Inner Meme and want to have fun aswell. It's not 50:50, maybe 70:30 in favor of meta decks, but you should keep in mind to always build in some tech against some of the meta decks. For example I play elemental mage often, and it's kind of deck that can almost never win against aggro palys, sometimes against tempo mage & cubelock and often against control warlock & priest because of fckloads of value it can generate.
I play causal because I want to try stupid and experimental decks without compromising my rank. And, to be honest, those are the sort of decks you expect to find there. When I need to complete a quest I just make a meta deck and go to constructed. Playing jade druid, cubelock, big priest or any cancer variant of paladin is easy enough to be able to crank up the gold there.
It really ruins it for me to be trying to have fun with meme combos and not even getting to pull them off because a cubelock has filled the board by turn 5 and there's nothing I can do. If you wanna play a heavily refined deck made for easy wins, go play constructed. And, unlike casual, ladder will gradually hone your skills and make you a better player.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't think netdecks belong ANYWHERE. Ranked or Casual. The fun in card games is putting together your own decks and coming up with formulas, and MAYBE sharing them with a few people, friends and such. But I HATE getting thwomped over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over by the SAME EXACT DECK.
Now, that being said, if people legitimately figured out meta decks based off of other peoples decks, I'd be fine with that. But I know that these people aren't homebrewing their decks, they're going to sites like this one and such and searching for "TOP 500 LEGEND SPITEFUL PRIEST 99% WIN RATE" decks instead of developing their own strategy.
And I'm not accusing everyone of netdecking, but people who do are netdecking aren't playing the game. They don't take time to learn how to build decks, they just copy someone else's formula. Where's the fun in that? I mean, I get the satisfaction of winning over and over again, but wouldn't the satisfaction be better if you won with your OWN deck?
tl;dr I hate netdecking, and people who netdeck aren't playing the game how it should be played.
*Yes, this is partially salt over Cubelock/Spiteful priest, but it's also a gripe I have with many games where people can just copy a boring meta that is unbeatable.
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I play causal because I want to try stupid and experimental decks without compromising my rank. And, to be honest, those are the sort of decks you expect to find there. When I need to complete a quest I just make a meta deck and go to constructed. Playing jade druid, cubelock, big priest or any cancer variant of paladin is easy enough to be able to crank up the gold there.
It really ruins it for me to be trying to have fun with meme combos and not even getting to pull them off because a cubelock has filled the board by turn 5 and there's nothing I can do. If you wanna play a heavily refined deck made for easy wins, go play constructed. And, unlike casual, ladder will gradually hone your skills and make you a better player.
Thanks for that comment! This is exactly how I usually feel when playing casual.
Of course I understand if people use casual to try out the new net deck they just built (which is okay, of course!)
But running into a golden Cubelock, who seems to know exactly what he is doing, just doesn't feel right.
I play causal because I want to try stupid and experimental decks without compromising my rank. And, to be honest, those are the sort of decks you expect to find there. When I need to complete a quest I just make a meta deck and go to constructed. Playing jade druid, cubelock, big priest or any cancer variant of paladin is easy enough to be able to crank up the gold there.
It really ruins it for me to be trying to have fun with meme combos and not even getting to pull them off because a cubelock has filled the board by turn 5 and there's nothing I can do. If you wanna play a heavily refined deck made for easy wins, go play constructed. And, unlike casual, ladder will gradually hone your skills and make you a better player.
Thanks for that comment! This is exactly how I usually feel when playing casual.
Of course I understand if people use casual to try out the new net deck they just built (which is okay, of course!)
But running into a golden Cubelock, who seems to know exactly what he is doing, just doesn't feel right.
I agree, you can tell someone who is figuring it out, and the seasoned guy who knows every trick and turn with the deck.
I used to try out tricky netdecks in casual but I stopped because I would hit F2P guys who are probably struggling to get quests and gold, and I felt bad. I'd often concede after they played basic cards that would never see play normally, but sometimes they concede first and that sucks.
I'm indifferent towards it but I can definitely see why it would frustrate someone. It would suck trying to get a dominance done in casual mode with a class you don't have a lot of cards for but you still run into ten degenerate warlock players in a row anyways.
I play causal because I want to try stupid and experimental decks without compromising my rank. And, to be honest, those are the sort of decks you expect to find there. When I need to complete a quest I just make a meta deck and go to constructed. Playing jade druid, cubelock, big priest or any cancer variant of paladin is easy enough to be able to crank up the gold there.
It really ruins it for me to be trying to have fun with meme combos and not even getting to pull them off because a cubelock has filled the board by turn 5 and there's nothing I can do. If you wanna play a heavily refined deck made for easy wins, go play constructed. And, unlike casual, ladder will gradually hone your skills and make you a better player.
Thanks for that comment! This is exactly how I usually feel when playing casual.
Of course I understand if people use casual to try out the new net deck they just built (which is okay, of course!)
But running into a golden Cubelock, who seems to know exactly what he is doing, just doesn't feel right.
I think this sums it up best. The frustration I wanted to represent with this question was something along the lines of queueing into a golden hero with a legend card back playing a T1 deck in casual.
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I'd like to gather other people in the community's input on this topic. Netdecking in casual mode: is it scummy, or is it perfectly fine?
I'm kind of on the moderate side on this one. I like to play casual when my daily quests don't exactly like up with me playing ranked (i.e. Win 5 matches as Warrior). It sometimes FeelsBadMan queueing into Cubelock or Spiteful priest when you're trying to complete Murlocalypse. On the other hand, I love knowing how some of my off-meta/meme decks stack up against the big boys. I even win some of those games and that can feel pretty rewarding.
I'd just like to see where everyone else's opinions lay.
Well, what if they are just trying to crank out some quick wins for the dominance quests?
>>C-C-Combo!>Unstable Evolution FRENZY (Tavern Brawl)That's fine. It honestly doesn't bother me. I just noticed one day I ran into Cubelock in like 4 matches straight and I kind of thought about how it could be a little tilting if you were grinding for wins. :P
My problem isn't netdecking in casual it's tryharding when I just wanna complete a daily quest
Don't mind me just passing by
I agree with you, it really sucks when you just want to get a quest over with (Time restrictions, etc) but keep getting slammed by top tier decks..
>>C-C-Combo!>Unstable Evolution FRENZY (Tavern Brawl)When I am in casual, I am only doing quests, and If i can tell my opponent is doing the same, I try to let them play as much as they can too, I have actually made alot of new (HS) friends that way.
>>C-C-Combo!>Unstable Evolution FRENZY (Tavern Brawl)I think its fine cause personally if I wanna try a new deck I've never played (like I just played spiteful and barnes priest for the first time today to see what they're like cause I have the cards) and im not at a rank floor (was at sixteen) then ill test it in casual to get a feel for the deck.
Casual standard feels exactly like ranked 90% of the time. Definitely a bummer.
In wild, the casual format actually feels quite casual most of the time. I think there is less of a try-hard culture in wild in general.
Well, I had a quest to play 20 hunter spells, so I made a spell hunter deck and ended up winning 8 in a row, then I thought, I should have just gone in to ranked with this.
You do not truly know someone, until you fight them.....
There's a lot Blizzard can do to fix this. There's no incentive not to farm folks who are playing casually and there's nowhere for players to go for a purely "casual" constructed experience.
I don't mind it too much generally speaking. I mean yes, there are definitely times when you feel tilted about getting slamed by top tier decks, but at times it feels just natural because losing is rarely pleasant. I feel like some people haven't lost their Inner Meme and want to have fun aswell. It's not 50:50, maybe 70:30 in favor of meta decks, but you should keep in mind to always build in some tech against some of the meta decks. For example I play elemental mage often, and it's kind of deck that can almost never win against aggro palys, sometimes against tempo mage & cubelock and often against control warlock & priest because of fckloads of value it can generate.
"Netdecking" in casual is totally fine. Playing a tier 0 deck in casual's incredibly lame though. That said, you do you I guess.
Sorry for any no Warlock/Priest/Druid i meet in casual with my t1 dudeadin but i need fast gold
I play causal because I want to try stupid and experimental decks without compromising my rank. And, to be honest, those are the sort of decks you expect to find there. When I need to complete a quest I just make a meta deck and go to constructed. Playing jade druid, cubelock, big priest or any cancer variant of paladin is easy enough to be able to crank up the gold there.
It really ruins it for me to be trying to have fun with meme combos and not even getting to pull them off because a cubelock has filled the board by turn 5 and there's nothing I can do. If you wanna play a heavily refined deck made for easy wins, go play constructed. And, unlike casual, ladder will gradually hone your skills and make you a better player.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't think netdecks belong ANYWHERE. Ranked or Casual. The fun in card games is putting together your own decks and coming up with formulas, and MAYBE sharing them with a few people, friends and such. But I HATE getting thwomped over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over by the SAME EXACT DECK.
Now, that being said, if people legitimately figured out meta decks based off of other peoples decks, I'd be fine with that. But I know that these people aren't homebrewing their decks, they're going to sites like this one and such and searching for "TOP 500 LEGEND SPITEFUL PRIEST 99% WIN RATE" decks instead of developing their own strategy.
And I'm not accusing everyone of netdecking, but people who do are netdecking aren't playing the game. They don't take time to learn how to build decks, they just copy someone else's formula. Where's the fun in that? I mean, I get the satisfaction of winning over and over again, but wouldn't the satisfaction be better if you won with your OWN deck?
tl;dr I hate netdecking, and people who netdeck aren't playing the game how it should be played.
*Yes, this is partially salt over Cubelock/Spiteful priest, but it's also a gripe I have with many games where people can just copy a boring meta that is unbeatable.
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I used to try out tricky netdecks in casual but I stopped because I would hit F2P guys who are probably struggling to get quests and gold, and I felt bad. I'd often concede after they played basic cards that would never see play normally, but sometimes they concede first and that sucks.
I'm indifferent towards it but I can definitely see why it would frustrate someone. It would suck trying to get a dominance done in casual mode with a class you don't have a lot of cards for but you still run into ten degenerate warlock players in a row anyways.