Ok, so i just spent 150$ on Hearthstone. I have Naxxramas adventure, and a pretty good collection of cards. Still, when i try to find a deck i could try to climb to Legend with, I still come short of cards. Most decks nowadays need LoE adventure and BrM adventure. Taking into account I shouldn't have bought Naxxramas adventure, because of the Standard mode comming up, I am still falling short of building really good decks, even though I spent over 100 dollars on this game. How can Blizzard expect you to spend this much money, and you still fall short of building really good decks?
As in every free-to-play / pay-to-win game, all you need is patience, young one. Instead of busting 150$ into the game like that you should rather take your time, learn to play and grind the gold you need to buy packs.
as u see spending money doesnt help you winning ;) unless you spend thousands.
and yeah the adventures are kind of a trap for new players, since basically you need all of them at some point.
but if you keep playing, maybe after 3 months you can finish your first tier deck and build up your collection. the upcoming standard might help you to keep up. (there will be probably one or two competitive decks with mostly classic cards.)
Hearthstone is not pay to win, but its also not free to win. The adventures are required to build a lot of the top decks and its far more efficient to pay for them with cash than gold.
For the base set and expansions its fairly easy to get the decent cards by completing every daily task, spamming arena and disenchanting unused cards.
But there is nothing, that effects gameplay, that you cannot get through time instead of money.
Ok, so i just spent 150$ on Hearthstone. I have Naxxramas adventure, and a pretty good collection of cards. Still, when i try to find a deck i could try to climb to Legend with, I still come short of cards. Most decks nowadays need LoE adventure and BrM adventure. Taking into account I shouldn't have bought Naxxramas adventure, because of the Standard mode comming up, I am still falling short of building really good decks, even though I spent over 100 dollars on this game. How can Blizzard expect you to spend this much money, and you still fall short of building really good decks?
Am i missing something? Thoughts?
Do your dailies, win a weekly Tavern Brawl, and you'll be rewarded with more than 20,000 gold, and fifty free packs per year. You can purchase the annual adventure for free, and buy an additional 150 packs. More than enough to collect the playables from two annual expansions. Both GvG and TGT feature fewer than a dozen playable rares, maybe half-a-dozen playable epics, and a couple of legendaries. You don't need to have all the playables in order to be competitive - focus on the decks you like best. Currently, there are four budget decks costing about 2,000 dust which appear on the Tempostorm Tier lists - any of them are capable of hitting legend. Good luck.
First you need to understand what Pay-to-win really means. "Pay $5 and all of your minions will have +1/+1 for the next 24 hours"- That's pay to win. You are literally paying money so you could have a massive advantage over your opponent.
Now you have to understand that HS has a natural progression system. You have to sink time into HS and play it for months/years before you can build ALL the decks. That's the progression system. Ofc if you really want to skip that progression system and have most of the cards you can pay like $600+, but that still doesn't make it pay-to-win. Because no matter how much money you spend, some new f2p player can always beat you with a really cheap Facehunter deck. You spending $150 on the game just means that you boost up that natural progression system. It simply means you now have more cards and you can try out new decks.
I am really sorry if you thought that $150 would get you close to full collection and maybe somehow make you win more but that's not how the game works. This 'card collecting' progression system is part of the game, it's part of the design of the game and there aren't really any ways to skip that part of the game unless you are willing to pay $600+ on this game. But the way I see it- Paying that much money to skip such a big part of the game (collecting cards over long period of time) is ruining part of the experience.
First you need to understand what Pay-to-win really means. "Pay $5 and all of your minions will have +1/+1 for next 24 hours"- That's pay to win. You are literally paying money so you could have a massive advantage over your opponent.
Now you have to understand that HS has a natural progression system. You have to sink time into HS and play it for months/years before you can build ALL the decks. That's the progression system. Ofc if you really want to skip that progression system and have most of the cards you can pay like $600+, but that still doesn't make it pay-to-win. Because no matter how much money you spend, some new f2p player can always beat you with a really cheap Facehunter deck. You spending $150 on the game just means that you boost up that natural progression system. It simply means you now have more cards and you can try out new decks.
I am really sorry if you thought that $150 would get you close to full collection and maybe somehow make you win more but that's not how the game works. This 'card collecting' progression system is part of the game, it's part of the design of the game and there aren't really any ways to skip that part of the game unless you are willing to pay $600+ on this game. But the way I see it- Paying that much money to skip such a big part of the game (collecting cards over long period of time) is ruining part of the experience.
First you need to understand what Pay-to-win really means. "Pay $5 and all of your minions will have +1/+1 for the next 24 hours"- That's pay to win. You are literally paying money so you could have a massive advantage over your opponent.
Now you have to understand that HS has a natural progression system. You have to sink time into HS and play it for months/years before you can build ALL the decks. That's the progression system. Ofc if you really want to skip that progression system and have most of the cards you can pay like $600+, but that still doesn't make it pay-to-win. Because no matter how much money you spend, some new f2p player can always beat you with a really cheap Facehunter deck. You spending $150 on the game just means that you boost up that natural progression system. It simply means you now have more cards and you can try out new decks.
I am really sorry if you thought that $150 would get you close to full collection and maybe somehow make you win more but that's not how the game works. This 'card collecting' progression system is part of the game, it's part of the design of the game and there aren't really any ways to skip that part of the game unless you are willing to pay $600+ on this game. But the way I see it- Paying that much money to skip such a big part of the game (collecting cards over long period of time) is ruining part of the experience.
You spent 150$. Ok... Why you didn't bought all adventures for example, and spend rest on packs? Also, this is f2p game, and with that, it means, that you can't magically play every possible deck and have every card without putting money in it. I'll tell you what I did. I've picked my three fav classes, and I focus only on them, and have no problems building decks. That's what I suggest you too.
Because paying customers don't get anything non-paying customer's can't... except hero skins. In a pay-2-win game you can gain advantages by paying not available to non-paying customers.
The advantage you get are getting the cards faster, and in that period you will also have a bigger collection. Still, as long as you meet someone on the ladder who doesn't have a hero skin, you can not know if he is P2P or F2P.
Ok, so i just spent 150$ on Hearthstone. I have Naxxramas adventure, and a pretty good collection of cards. Still, when i try to find a deck i could try to climb to Legend with, I still come short of cards. Most decks nowadays need LoE adventure and BrM adventure. Taking into account I shouldn't have bought Naxxramas adventure, because of the Standard mode comming up, I am still falling short of building really good decks, even though I spent over 100 dollars on this game. How can Blizzard expect you to spend this much money, and you still fall short of building really good decks?
Am i missing something? Thoughts?
Paying doesn't make you a better player. It gives you cards. The same cards that a F2P player would still gain over time.
If anything it has a chance of potentially making you a worse player in that you very well may have missed a key step that most F2P players experience at the start. That would be playing an aggro deck and learning both the ins and outs of how aggro works in HearthStone so that they don't get stomped every time they run into one.
The fact that players have created new accounts and played them to legend the same month without spending a cent is pretty much proof that this game isn't pay-to-win, and that paying isn't necessary in this game.
ok so you're saying you paid and did not win so the game is pay to win? 0-o
first you don't need to spend any money to make a good deck that can win on rank even on the first day of your account by just doing all the quests to get all the free packs then disenchanting all the bad cards and crafting good commons you can easy make a good zoolock, mech mage, and midrange hunter i did this myself and got to rank 15 before my first lost with mech mage without spending any money but the most important thing is to know how to play the game so go watch some youtubers like trump, and kripp.
If you spent $150 on this game including Naxx and can't make a good deck to get to legend then the problem isn't the cards its you. There's plenty of cheap low budget decks that are legend capable. If you can't get to legend then you need to put the time in and learn to play the game better.
First you need to understand what Pay-to-win really means. "Pay $5 and all of your minions will have +1/+1 for the next 24 hours"- That's pay to win. You are literally paying money so you could have a massive advantage over your opponent.
Now you have to understand that HS has a natural progression system. You have to sink time into HS and play it for months/years before you can build ALL the decks. That's the progression system. Ofc if you really want to skip that progression system and have most of the cards you can pay like $600+, but that still doesn't make it pay-to-win. Because no matter how much money you spend, some new f2p player can always beat you with a really cheap Facehunter deck. You spending $150 on the game just means that you boost up that natural progression system. It simply means you now have more cards and you can try out new decks.
I am really sorry if you thought that $150 would get you close to full collection and maybe somehow make you win more but that's not how the game works. This 'card collecting' progression system is part of the game, it's part of the design of the game and there aren't really any ways to skip that part of the game unless you are willing to pay $600+ on this game. But the way I see it- Paying that much money to skip such a big part of the game (collecting cards over long period of time) is ruining part of the experience.
You spent 150$ on p2w game, could you describe me what did you feel, when you achieved the legend rank? Cuz I bought only 3 wings of brm, so it's not enough to be pro.
Ok, so i just spent 150$ on Hearthstone. I have Naxxramas adventure, and a pretty good collection of cards.
Still, when i try to find a deck i could try to climb to Legend with, I still come short of cards. Most decks nowadays need LoE adventure and BrM adventure. Taking into account I shouldn't have bought Naxxramas adventure, because of the Standard mode comming up, I am still falling short of building really good decks, even though I spent over 100 dollars on this game. How can Blizzard expect you to spend this much money, and you still fall short of building really good decks?
Am i missing something? Thoughts?
I don't know how to tell you without sounding like a negative cunt, so keep at it, buddy!
As in every free-to-play / pay-to-win game, all you need is patience, young one. Instead of busting 150$ into the game like that you should rather take your time, learn to play and grind the gold you need to buy packs.
as u see spending money doesnt help you winning ;) unless you spend thousands.
and yeah the adventures are kind of a trap for new players, since basically you need all of them at some point.
but if you keep playing, maybe after 3 months you can finish your first tier deck and build up your collection. the upcoming standard might help you to keep up. (there will be probably one or two competitive decks with mostly classic cards.)
Hearthstone is not pay to win, but its also not free to win. The adventures are required to build a lot of the top decks and its far more efficient to pay for them with cash than gold.
For the base set and expansions its fairly easy to get the decent cards by completing every daily task, spamming arena and disenchanting unused cards.
But there is nothing, that effects gameplay, that you cannot get through time instead of money.
First you need to understand what Pay-to-win really means. "Pay $5 and all of your minions will have +1/+1 for the next 24 hours"- That's pay to win. You are literally paying money so you could have a massive advantage over your opponent.
Now you have to understand that HS has a natural progression system. You have to sink time into HS and play it for months/years before you can build ALL the decks. That's the progression system. Ofc if you really want to skip that progression system and have most of the cards you can pay like $600+, but that still doesn't make it pay-to-win. Because no matter how much money you spend, some new f2p player can always beat you with a really cheap Facehunter deck. You spending $150 on the game just means that you boost up that natural progression system. It simply means you now have more cards and you can try out new decks.
I am really sorry if you thought that $150 would get you close to full collection and maybe somehow make you win more but that's not how the game works. This 'card collecting' progression system is part of the game, it's part of the design of the game and there aren't really any ways to skip that part of the game unless you are willing to pay $600+ on this game. But the way I see it- Paying that much money to skip such a big part of the game (collecting cards over long period of time) is ruining part of the experience.
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You spent 150$. Ok... Why you didn't bought all adventures for example, and spend rest on packs?
Also, this is f2p game, and with that, it means, that you can't magically play every possible deck and have every card without putting money in it. I'll tell you what I did. I've picked my three fav classes, and I focus only on them, and have no problems building decks. That's what I suggest you too.
Because paying customers don't get anything non-paying customer's can't... except hero skins. In a pay-2-win game you can gain advantages by paying not available to non-paying customers.
The advantage you get are getting the cards faster, and in that period you will also have a bigger collection. Still, as long as you meet someone on the ladder who doesn't have a hero skin, you can not know if he is P2P or F2P.
ok so you're saying you paid and did not win so the game is pay to win? 0-o
first you don't need to spend any money to make a good deck that can win on rank even on the first day of your account by just doing all the quests to get all the free packs then disenchanting all the bad cards and crafting good commons you can easy make a good zoolock, mech mage, and midrange hunter i did this myself and got to rank 15 before my first lost with mech mage without spending any money but the most important thing is to know how to play the game so go watch some youtubers like trump, and kripp.
You know how it's not pay to win? You payed 150$ and still can't get to Legend :D :D :D :D
If you're happy and you know it... well that's good :)
If you spent $150 on this game including Naxx and can't make a good deck to get to legend then the problem isn't the cards its you. There's plenty of cheap low budget decks that are legend capable. If you can't get to legend then you need to put the time in and learn to play the game better.
If u think only need pay money and get legend, u just underestimate us legend player .
I've got 1st time legend after 40days play this game, with no naxx no brm. sorry about that :)))
There is a reddit thread just now about a Polish streamer MKRR3 who made legend with a fresh F2P account, in 9 days.
You spent 150$ on p2w game, could you describe me what did you feel, when you achieved the legend rank? Cuz I bought only 3 wings of brm, so it's not enough to be pro.