Why is no one commenting on the Voltron reference?

Am I the only one here old enough to know Voltron? lol

He has low attack... Belcher alone almost wipes him. This is a huge risk that is very easily countered. I think we'll have to see all the mech cards before deciding this value. The up side is that when it comes up you have your full turns mana to clear his way or charge him up.

I want to see the animation for V-07-TR-0N being formed.

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You forgot Brawl and Equality combos (and double AOE like 2x Consecration or Lightning Storm, but that's really hard to draw into) as counters. A turn 8 2x Annoy-o-Tron + Mimiron's Head + Conceal you would be a strong win condition, but Warrior/Paladin match ups would be really bad.

Your right I totally did forget about Brawl. There earlier in the game it is the less likely your opponent will be able to counter it but less likely you will actually be able to pull off the combo, so there is still balance to this card. Also to point out that this card does have potential to be a critical game ending card like Leeroy Jenkins was in previous Miracle Rouge decks, however it does give your opponent a turn to try to counter it where Leeroy didn't.

It will just suck to be on the other end with full health knowing your going to lose next turn and there isn't anything you can do about it.

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If you have more than the 3 required mechs on board, how will Mimiron's Head choose which to destroy?

Actually, looking back at the text, will it just destroy all friendly mechs even if you have more than 3?

Going by the general Hearthstone trend, I would assume it would destroy Mimiron and the 2 mechs played first. 

No, all the mechs you have, even if you have seven. This is what the text sais.

Based off wording alone it could be interpreted that a situation where there is more than 3 mechs in play that all of them would be destroyed in the process. It could also be interpreted in away that only the 3 mechs are destroyed, but in that interpretation it could also mean that Mimiron's Head is not one of the mechs that is destroyed. 

Unlike other TCG games Hearthstone is digital only and all the rules are controlled by a computer so Blizzard can take liberties with some more complicated rules. Further testing will be required with some cards to determine what exactly will happen. Regardless of how many mechs are lost in the process if you're able to summon V-07-TR-0N it will be hard to lose at that point.

So all you need to have in your hand is 3 mechs, the head, and a taunt or two that you can't lose. And something to boost Voltron after or deal damage enough before for him to finish you.

That's really nice of your opponent to let you do all of that.

Especially when you Crazed Alchemist/Reversing Switch that thing.

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shouldnt you rather take the 1 mana mechs?

Or Mechwarper: 2 mana+ 1 mana + 3 mana +1 mana conceal = turn 7 V07

You insta-lose against literally all AOE that way (Swipe, Consecration, Lightning Storm, Holy Nova, etc), whereas it's very hard for most classes to remove Annoy-o-Trons or Mimiron's Head when they're Stealthed. Miracle Rogue is built around cycling through a ton of low impact trash for a few card combo win condition, so you'd better be damn sure that win condition actually wins you the game.

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Regardless of how many mechs are lost in the process if you're able to summon V-07-TR-0N it will be hard to lose at that point.

Unless opponent Shrinkmeisters your Voltron into Cabal Shadow Priest the following turn.

If this does happen you would have done 16+ damage to your opponent. V-07-TR-0N does have haste so it is able to attack the same turn Cabal Shadow Priest is played. However the Shrinkmeister will still be in effect giving your opponent a minimal amount of 8 damage. It also leaves you able to find a way to deal with it before it goes back to full damage. 

The question is, what is the correct play against a board that is set up for Voltron next turn?

Say your opponent sets up 3 mechs including Head, and it is your turn and you have a removal. Do you kill off the Head right there? Or wait for Head's ability to wipe board for you and take 16 damage from Voltron, then kill off Voltron the next turn?

Unless you're Handlock you have no reason to want to take 16 damage, as far as I know.

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The question is, what is the correct play against a board that is set up for Voltron next turn?

Say your opponent sets up 3 mechs including Head, and it is your turn and you have a removal. Do you kill off the Head right there? Or wait for Head's ability to wipe board for you and take 16 damage from Voltron, then kill off Voltron the next turn?

You kill the head because you will likely die if you let voltron come in.

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Unless you're Handlock you have no reason to want to take 16 damage, as far as I know.

 

Mimiron's Head in a Pally deck =P

[GvG] Mecha-Miracle Unknown Deck by Unionruler - Nov 20, 2014 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (20) 1x Mimiron's Head 1x Sneed's Old Shredder 2x Piloted Sky Golem 2x Gadgetzan Auctioneer 2x Harvest Golem 2x Clockwork Gnome 2x Explosive Sheep 2x Loot Hoarder 2x Piloted Shredder 2x Tinkertown Technician 2x Undertaker	Ability (8) 2x Equality 2x Avenge 2x Consecration 2x Noble Sacrifice	Weapon (2) 2x Truesilver Champion
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The question is, what is the correct play against a board that is set up for Voltron next turn?

Say your opponent sets up 3 mechs including Head, and it is your turn and you have a removal. Do you kill off the Head right there? Or wait for Head's ability to wipe board for you and take 16 damage from Voltron, then kill off Voltron the next turn?

Vaporize ftw.

The Voltron decks I've seen so far have no charger except Voltron himself. ;)

Freezing Trap might be nice, but if possible I'd rather prevent Voltron completely than to send him into your opponent's hand for 10 Mana.

If Voltron was 9 Mana standard-cost then Freezing-Trap -> Trollface. (Note that the Coin won't give you an 11th manapoint if you already have 10, it will do nothing instead.)

 

Although it was mentioned, I've not actually seen anyway explain what they mean by 'Mimiron mech zoo' I was thinking of something like this: 

Mimiron's head mech zoo Unknown Deck by lionoffrost - Nov 26, 2014 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (26) 1x Mimiron's Head 1x Defender of Argus 1x Fel Cannon 1x Knife Juggler 2x Nerubian Egg 2x Harvest Golem 2x Annoy-o-Tron 2x Clockwork Gnome 2x Cogmaster 2x Flame Imp 2x Mechwarper 2x Micro Machine 1x Piloted Shredder 1x Spider Tank 2x Tinkertown Technician 2x Undertaker	Ability (4) 2x Power Overwhelming 2x Soulfire
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Of course the exact choices are subject to change. Maybe its worth cycling in Loatheb, maybe the Annoy-o-tron is too weak to justify even with its stickiness, maybe you need more silences in the deck.

But the basic idea would be that about half your deck is mech, their average cost is about 2.5 mana. Mechwarper makes them cheaper to play. Annoy-o-tron, harvest golem and Defender of Argus allow you to make them stick. Cards like undertaker and nerubian egg draw silences and removal before the combo. The main point though, is that this deck is still just a solid zoo even if you don't pull off the combo, it is just an element that makes you win if you're ahead before heavy control enemies can overwhelm you with their late game.

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Can V-07-Tron summoned directly by Sneed's Old Shredder??

I'm pretty sure its only collectable legendaries. 

Also, here is my version that is really outside the box for Paladin Mech.

Cobalt-Target Mech Paladin Unknown Deck by KilogramHours - Dec 3, 2014 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (20) 1x Mimiron's Head 2x Piloted Sky Golem 2x Cobalt Guardian 1x Jeeves 2x Target Dummy 2x Harvest Golem 2x Cogmaster 2x Mechwarper 2x Piloted Shredder 2x Shielded Minibot 2x Tinkertown Technician	Ability (6) 2x Equality 2x Blessing of Kings 2x Consecration	Weapon (4) 2x Coghammer 2x Truesilver Champion
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i think theres a few ways you can go about this. 

you can run it in an aggro styled mech deck that puts up so many mechs that a few are bound to stick on the board and this combo has a small chance to happen but its not the main force of the deck.

or you could run it in a very traditional miracle deck. with mimirons head, 2 target dummies conceal on turn 6 then follow up with cold blood for an OTK. including similar cards and draw engines, treating mimirons head as a pseuto leeroy like the old decks. 

 

I have been trying to build around this card in a miracle deck but I have had limited success. I just switched to using Free Gold's version but haven't ran enough games to check its consistency. He runs questing's in his but I have not seen him stream this deck so I do not know if he was using them for pressure or removal bait. If anyone has found a way to work this in it would be awesome to see the deck.